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Cosmic

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Hi all,

It has been an exciting week for the staff as we settle in. Our goal is to provide new value to the forum & site owners in our community. Exchanges, promotion, advertising, contests. We will provide more in these areas, and launch new services to help jump-start your site.

To do this, we need your input and feedback. We're looking for new ways to:
  • Advertise your site on FP
  • Connect you with other site owners, to do post exchanges and buy/sell goods
  • Help you recruit staff
  • Spread news about updates in your community
  • Connect you with resources and plugins
  • And more
We have several ideas, but we want to know what you think first. Are our existing services helpful? What can we do to help your site?

Thanks, and we look forward to hearing your ideas and feedback.

The FP Staff Team
 

Cosmic

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What about an actual application for potential staff(for our sites, not FP)? At least this way there is a set structure for everyone and it lessens the amount of PMing back and forth.
This is an interesting idea. Are you thinking of a recommended application template, or a plugin?
 
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Having Site Battle again instead of once a month as it gets more hype then regular battle.
 

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What about an actual application for potential staff(for our sites, not FP)? At least this way there is a set structure for everyone and it lessens the amount of PMing back and forth.
This is an interesting idea. Are you thinking of a recommended application template, or a plugin?
Ooh. I was originally thinking of just a template, but a plugin sounds pretty sweet. This could get rid of replies altogether.
 

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The idea of streamlining, incorporating some sort of plug in, etc. for the job board/seeking employment forums would be a nice addition. Make it more of a formalized structure and process, rather than basically just another promotion topic with an emphasis on staff openings. I'm thinking this is specifically helpful for the Seeking Employment sub-forum, so people fill out a standard template that board admins can review and compare from multiple posted topics. Like a resume format, with all the same information, resembling the actual real-life job search.

Same can be helpful for the Job Board itself - have a template, standard requirements to be included in the topic and be met by the board, etc. Maybe have different templates for sites that are brand new/not yet open and sites that at are at various stages in their lifespan.

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Another cool feature, which would be a rather substantial addition, would be to have some sort of promotion "network" that boards join, and involves some sort of rotating ad on every 'member site'. So every site in the network gets advertised on every other site in the network as well. Could be affiliate button size or something larger, or even have a text ad version (so it can be more mobile friendly). I've seen it done on several forums on the past in various ways, can be pretty successful and beneficial to each forum on it if it gets large enough.

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Another idea that may be too much of a directional shift from where you want to take things, but it'd be cool to see you dive more into the resource area of things. Like offer some plug ins/modifications for forums, even if it's just ones you create/have created to use here for phpBB or XF. Or have some styles/skins/themes for some popular software. Work on some high-quality documentations/tutorials/guides for doing various things on different software to put on the blog/homepage. That kind of stuff will draw in new/more people and then they'll discover the community and stick around.
 
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Having Site Battle again instead of once a month as it gets more hype then regular battle.
What do you mean by this? Are you referring to our Site Battles forum? Or are you referring to Site Battle Madness, which we do on an annual basis?
Site battle madness.
Problem is, from my perspective... It invites trouble more than it's worth. The whole point of the Site Battle Madness is to get members of the community to vote for the best site (albeit in a fun way), but from what I've seen, site owners invite their own members (from their own sites) to vote for their site, so this drowns "the little guy," to the bottom of the totem pole. On the other side of this trouble is that it invites others to argue about how "this site sucks, don't give him traffic!" That's not what it was designed for! It was supposed to be a fun, cordial contest. And to share traffic. To show off smaller sites. To show off newer sites.

Now, I'm not saying Site Battle Madness is bad, I just think doing it frequently would cause more arguments than ever. I'm all for more chances to win traffic, but competition breeds bitterness. Everyone is vying for traffic. Everyone is trying to be bigger than the next guy.

On the other hand, it means more work for the moderators, or shall I say the package team? I dunno. What I do know, is I like Site Battle Madness, but at the same time it invites trouble.
 

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Hi all,

We’re currently working on a round of changes that will be released within the next few days. Stay tuned! This will include a few changes that FP hasn’t seen before.

Another cool feature, which would be a rather substantial addition, would be to have some sort of promotion "network" that boards join, and involves some sort of rotating ad on every 'member site'. So every site in the network gets advertised on every other site in the network as well. Could be affiliate button size or something larger, or even have a text ad version (so it can be more mobile friendly). I've seen it done on several forums on the past in various ways, can be pretty successful and beneficial to each forum on it if it gets large enough.
This is a really good idea. I’ve been thinking about this myself actually. The problem is the amount of dev work it would take to make this and make this right. Is there anyone else who would be super stoked if we made this happen? This is the type of thing that we might do if there is enough interest.


On the suggestion to do SBM more often: one thing I’d like to draw attention to is the monthly Community of the Month contest. Is there anything that we should do to this contest to make it better?
 

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Another idea that may be too much of a directional shift from where you want to take things, but it'd be cool to see you dive more into the resource area of things. Like offer some plug ins/modifications for forums, even if it's just ones you create/have created to use here for phpBB or XF. Or have some styles/skins/themes for some popular software. Work on some high-quality documentations/tutorials/guides for doing various things on different software to put on the blog/homepage. That kind of stuff will draw in new/more people and then they'll discover the community and stick around.
I think that's where FP went wrong under previous administration. They tried to be everything to everyone and ended up with a promotion forum full of staff members who spent far more time trying to develop plugins, researching SEO on Google so they could help people with it (and giving up because it was too hard), and copy-pasting threads from Digital Point than helping people promote their forums. That's just my opinion anyway.
 
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This is a really good idea. I’ve been thinking about this myself actually. The problem is the amount of dev work it would take to make this and make this right. Is there anyone else who would be super stoked if we made this happen? This is the type of thing that we might do if there is enough interest.
It's definitely a large undertaking and not a quick implementation. I do believe something, it doesn't have to be this specifically, needs to be added that can be a large and unique enough feature that attracts people. In this example, FP could have its own ad in the network (and have the rotating ads on the site as well) so it's a win-win in that sense.

I think that's where FP went wrong under previous administration. They tried to be everything to everyone and ended up with a promotion forum full of staff members who spent far more time trying to develop plugins, researching SEO on Google so they could help people with it (and giving up because it was too hard), and copy-pasting threads from Digital Point than helping people promote their forums. That's just my opinion anyway.
I'd agree with this. Forum Promotion needs to focus on promotion; this suggestion comes in the same vein as the 'network' suggestion in that it's an attempt to find something that attract new members to visit and join the community. I wasn't completely sold on the idea when I posted it yesterday, but figured I might as well put it up. *shrug*
 
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1. Promotion

Well let's look at Promotion from a users prospective. Would I as a user want to promote here and would I believe I would currently benefit from it? No not at all, but why is that? Well it is firstly due to the fact there isn't much of a community here and not many people. Supply and demand is the key and there is a demand for promotion, but no supply to draw from. FP needs to promote itself to draw in more users to FP if there is to ever be a desire to promote here again.

2. Services and Currency

FP does focus a lot around its services, but I believe considering how much the internet has grown FP no longer offers quality services that are worth using. It would be in FP's benefit to reform its services to offer better quality services more so for the review and posting package services. Reviews need better team members with more knowledge and experience to offer better detailed more reviews to newer administrations. While the Package Team needs more reliable and willing participants to offer higher quality posting services because I could go anywhere else to get posting services that is offered in equal or less value and at great quality in terms of FP$.

Also the other issue is FP cash itself. There is no value to be had in FP$, but that is mostly due to poor quality services, but also the large amount that currently exists and how much people can gather. I believe FP$ should be reset and made harder to gather and push for harder and strong values for the future of FP$ so it can create a general standard among the internet to draw more investment and interest. This would in my opinion be the best long term strategy for the future of FP$. If it continue as it is no one would really want to invest their time (or money considering it can be sold for real cash).

Also as for exchange services and recruitment that comes along with what I mention earlier about supply and demand. FP needs to draw more people in willing to invest their time here, but right now there is nothing that draws people in willing to invest. Unless such changes are taken I doubt that will happen anytime soon. I hope for FP's success, but we need some actual demand here on FP I personally would like to see FP$ be harder to get so there would be worth investing my time in myself.
 
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I believe FP$ should be reset
That's not going to be easy? there are allot of members like @Jordan who paid for FP$ using paypal.. So they going to loss what they payed for...
Refunds would be the best option in that case, but the thing is the current FP$ and the devalued FP$ how it is not worth it more long term or a more valuable FP$? I think it should be an obvious answer, but I have also paid for FP$ in the past and I don't care to lose it. I rather have a stronger valued FP$ over how it is now any day.
 
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Refunds would be the best option in that case
That's kinda impossible. Some people have bought FP$ from other people who haven't visited the forum for years. And it's up to the person who have sold the FP$.
I don't care to lose it
You are billionaire in real life.
Damn right I am and I think the guy who knows how to make billions knows how it should be. ;) I am not like some idiot who lost over 1.2 Billion on their failed election campaign
 

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I agree with everything you wrote but that.
It would be great, if it could be reset or at-least normalized somewhat more in favour of people actually contributing to FP itself, but that ship has sailed. It has sailed far, far away.

And one of the things with FP$ is that I really don't have much to spend it on, I suppose I could get someone to write a review for Gosora, who wants to directly / indirectly review a forum software? :p

And I don't really need posts, as much as I'd like exposure, although I'm a little lazy on that front too.
 
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