Do you let members delete their accounts?

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Okay, here's another take. Would you delete accounts if the member died? Say, a family member logged on to let you know that such & such has passed away. I think it would be morbid to keep a dead person's account on as it would only benefit the forum & dishonor the dead.
Thoughts?
How would you know that they are dead? Let's say the account only has 500 posts and it's not a known active member, has not been used in two years and no one knows about that user.
I have a usergroup for members that have passed. It locks their accounts, essentially, and gives them an in memorial banner. So the account still exists, but it can never be used and it adds a token of respect to their account.
With the family permissions if they want that, right?
 
How would you know that they are dead? Let's say the account only has 500 posts and it's not a known active member, has not been used in two years and no one knows about that user.

With the family permissions if they want that, right?
Sometimes there's an online obituary. A member of xenForo's community, who was a mod, was killed because he was meeting up with a closet gay man.

Over a meeting. Not because he was telling anyone he was gay. The guy wanted the relationship to be secret. So dumb.

I don't like gays, as a preference, but NOBODY deserves death like that.

If you're interested, I can find the thread for you.

Other times, the family of the deceased has a relationship with the owner. Or the family of the deceased goes to board and rules his death. It was sad.

But, yeah, that's how.

The best obituary I've seen is a woman (someone i liked, wanted to date..), who had a boyfriend, and was killed in a shooting. She was a website designer... SHE.. created a obituary for him. Its the sweetest thing I ever seen.

(Awe. So sweet. :angelic:)

That was in 2003, before there was website creation sites like wix. (I mean there was also geocities, but the site was sophisticated.)
 
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If I was to be dead next week from Covid or a drunk driver run me over, just for example. All online services and sites and whatever will become inactive and members on all sites will see me offline and no questions will be said. What will happen then, well the site hosting provider will expire and the site will close after two years, all my accounts won't get used again and people will move on and do not realize about me.

There is no one to take over the site, nothing, if I go nothing will change just expire and or accounts remove
 
How would you know that they are dead? Let's say the account only has 500 posts and it's not a known active member, has not been used in two years and no one knows about that user.
I keep up to date with my husband & mom my passwords, forums I'm on, accounts we have so if anything happens to me, I have the links of where to direct them to let others know. One thing about the 'net, we don't know why some people leave. I feel, I hope, I have made some friends & I will be missed so I would like my family to let these forums know & hopefully my account would be deleted.
 
Nope. By signing up to the site they agree that their account to some extent becomes property of the website. They can request to have it deactivated to a degree where they won't be seen on the memberlist or what have you, but personally, allowing them to delete their own accounts can be a bad move in terms of keeping site integrity.
 
So I have spoken to someone at https://gdpr-info.eu/ and was directed to Article 3, which defines the law's territorial scope, states that it not only applies to companies in the EU/EEA but also to companies out of the EU/EEA that serve or tack the data of EU/EEA residents. So from my understanding, if your site is accessible from the EU then you have to comply as your site may have European residents.


I have reached out to a legal consultant and currently waiting for a response.
 
So I have spoken to someone at https://gdpr-info.eu/ and was directed to Article 3, which defines the law's territorial scope, states that it not only applies to companies in the EU/EEA but also to companies out of the EU/EEA that serve or tack the data of EU/EEA residents. So from my understanding, if your site is accessible from the EU then you have to comply as your site may have European residents.


I have reached out to a legal consultant and currently waiting for a response.
If I were you, I would've stayed off their radar. But you went and contacted them. Now, each time someone uses the GDPR card, YOU and Cameron are gonna have to cave in and be compelled to do these activities.

That's not a position you want.

*sigh* Bro. You just put a target on your back down the road.

You have to understand - you are admin here. YOU and Cameron represent FP.
 
If I were you, I would've stayed off their radar. But you went and contacted them. Now, each time someone uses the GDPR card, YOU and Cameron are gonna have to cave in and be compelled to do these activities.

That's not a position you want.

*sigh* Bro. You just put a target on your back down the road.

You have to understand - you are admin here. YOU and Cameron represent FP.
No actually, I respect the people's privacy that comes to my sites. And I will do everything to ensure their privacy is protected. As a site owner, I have an obligation to protecting the data that is processed on ALL of my sites. Simply contacting them doesn't put you on their radar....
 
No actually, I respect the people's privacy that comes to my sites. And I will do everything to ensure their privacy is protected. As a site owner, I have an obligation to protecting the data that is processed on ALL of my sites. Simply contacting them doesn't put you on their radar....
I do too. I explained why I have the position I do now. You are worried about nothing.

Nobody outside of you and your admin team (and/or mod team) can see this... so called "sensitive" information. It is only YOUR job to keep that information secure and AWAY from everyone else.

But this law, assumes that YOUR board has full first name and last name, address, social security, bank info, and/or any other identifiable information that links you and an address.

These rules also assumes NOTHING about "Ops, i put my first name and last name as username, maybe its my fault!" Or doesn't assume that the user PUT THE ADDRESS IN ABOUT SECTION!

Why the fuck should I be blamed!?

What started this law is the selling of information by Facebook, Google, and other tech giants. In addition to the hacking, security breaches, or any other attacks on people.

*sigh* I guess nobody gets it or understands how stupid and absurd this whole thing is. I do have a point, but nobody seems to understand.

And, yes, Malcolm, this IS going to put a target on your back eventually. Because, you have to understand, those GDPR agents are like police officers. Once they see thousands complaining about your site.. and you went to them years ago about the rules.

What you basically did is turned yourself in years in advance. That's how I see this. Here's the thing, Malcolm... right now, cancel culture is strong. One argument with a member, those who love GDPR... are going to use it against you.

You know what... whatever. Do what you want.
 
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So I have spoken to someone at https://gdpr-info.eu/ and was directed to Article 3, which defines the law's territorial scope, states that it not only applies to companies in the EU/EEA but also to companies out of the EU/EEA that serve or tack the data of EU/EEA residents. So from my understanding, if your site is accessible from the EU then you have to comply as your site may have European residents.


I have reached out to a legal consultant and currently waiting for a response.

I understand it as being companies that sell products or services. FP does not sell anything (yet?).

What would happen would be that if FP eventually became the type of business to sell products or services to people of EU (Isn't the UK pulling out of the GDPR, btw?) and they do not comply with the GDPR regulation that they could possibly have their site blocked from being accessed by European countries. This happened to the Chicago Tribune newspaper.
 
I do too. I explained why I have the position I do now. You are worried about nothing.
I respect your position. However, I would kindly ask not to ridicule people who different opinions. I simply stated my findings and stated that I'm actively engaged in research into this topic. I'm always going to be worried about things, it's part of being a human.
Nobody outside of you and your admin team (and/or mod team) can see this... so called "sensitive" information. It is only YOUR job to keep that information secure and AWAY from everyone else.
Of course, we take a lot of precautions. In fact, we have recently made a lot of changes to ensure data is protected. You've actually experienced this not too long ago. And in addition, we are always looking to improve our security.
But this law, assumes that YOUR board has full first name and last name, address, social security, bank info, and/or any other identifiable information that links you and an address.
Please see this document: https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/personal-data/ it states that personal information is described as anything that can be linked to a person.
What started this law is the selling of information by Facebook, Google, and other tech giants. In addition to the hacking, security breaches, or any other attacks on people.
Yeah, I understand what you are saying. But it doesn't just apply to them, it applies to anyone who holds European data from what I was informed.
*sigh* I guess nobody gets it or understands how stupid and absurd this whole thing is. I do have a point, but nobody seems to understand.
Sure. Maybe I am wrong and everyone in this thread is right. But I'm doing my own research. I'm reaching out because I want to understand.


So my policies make it clear that you don't own the content, we also enforce not to share personal information within threads. So I'm happy and I've received plenty of feedback and that's why my stance is like this.
 
If a user wishes to have their account removed it often times means their personal information. When someone messages me asking to have their account deleted I simply remove their email, and change their name to be "deleted account" or something along those lines. That way it keeps the flow, and also allows them the piece of mind that it's "deleted"
 
I respect your position. However, I would kindly ask not to ridicule people who different opinions. I simply stated my findings and stated that I'm actively engaged in research into this topic. I'm always going to be worried about things, it's part of being a human.
I wasn't trying to ridicule you, I was trying to say "I would have just left it alone."

Let me put it this way, you just smoked weed, and its illegal in your state. Would you go to the closest officer and tell him you smoked weed? And you don't want to be in jail? Guess what? YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL.

Sometimes, it. is. better. to. LEAVE. it. ALONE. If the users complain and asks to delete, do it at your own volition. Do it quietly. That way, YOU can have your sanity. That way you don't have to worry about this later.
 
I wasn't trying to ridicule you, I was trying to say "I would have just left it alone."

Let me put it this way, you just smoked weed, and its illegal in your state. Would you go to the closest officer and tell him you smoked weed? And you don't want to be in jail? Guess what? YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL.

Sometimes, it. is. better. to. LEAVE. it. ALONE. If the users complain and asks to delete, do it at your own volition. Do it quietly. That way, YOU can have your sanity. That way you don't have to worry about this later.
What you just said is like saying "Oh there's a wildfire over the hill, if I ignore it I don't have to deal with it."
 
I understand it as being companies that sell products or services. FP does not sell anything (yet?).

What would happen would be that if FP eventually became the type of business to sell products or services to people of EU (Isn't the UK pulling out of the GDPR, btw?) and they do not comply with the GDPR regulation that they could possibly have their site blocked from being accessed by European countries. This happened to the Chicago Tribune newspaper.
Actually, its not about the "sale." Its about the account that is used to buy, post, blog, or any interactive action. When we talk about "selling" of information, we're talking about selling account INFORMATION. In other words, let's say you own Facebook, and you want to sell information as a business - you pull your user's profile habits, where they live, how they got there, most of this information includes your sensitive information as collateral. Because your profile happened to have your address on it. Because you have to provide this information for sales. By sales, I meant FB Marketplace buy and sell classifieds.
 
What you just said is like saying "Oh there's a wildfire over the hill, if I ignore it I don't have to deal with it."
Actually, no. Because this law wasn't intended for forums, bro. I explained this earlier... many times. One of the criteria of this rule is if many users complain, and the company makes anything above 1 million, that company or entity is taxed that much. But the thing is, this law received so much media attention...

It affects YOU.

ME.

EVERYONE. in this thread.

People think this is funny, but it isn't.
 
Actually, no. Because this law wasn't intended for forums, bro. I explained this earlier... many times. One of the criteria of this rule is if many users complain, and the company makes anything above 1 million, that company or entity is taxed that much. But the thing is, this law received so much media attention...

It affects YOU.

ME.

EVERYONE. in this thread.

People think this is funny, but it isn't.
I'm not trying to argue. Just providing the facts. 🙂
 
I'm not trying to argue. Just providing the facts. 🙂
I meant in general. I cannot tell you how many times I've argued with trolls expecting for me to cave in, and for them to receive millions from this law. I read their comments on Twitter. They actually thought this is funny.

I can imagine people who sent me emails to do this, laughing.

I don't have a million, I don't have 5 million, either... as the GDPR rules expects you to be taxed.

Do you have that money? No, i don't think so.
 
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