Happy Meals; a dieing breed?

[Cosmic]

Restaurants are different from lemonade stands.

How? Define to difference to me legally. Both are selling food on private property.

Restaurants = legal (in the majority of cases, ie, are licensed by the state, inspected, etc)
Lemonade stands = illegal

There's your legal definition.

Source: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... e-illegal/

I think your reference is Canadian? Your source's navigation says that post is in the Canadian section.

Anyway, only dumbasses ban lemonade stands.

OH MY ****ING GOSH! IT'S A LEMONADE STAND! THEY ARENT LICENSED BY THE FDA SEND THEM TO JAIL.

 

[katy perry is hot]

That doesn't matter. Lemonade stands are illegal. I'm not saying it should be, but regardless of what that link is from, they are illegal. You can find plenty of stories from little girls and boys getting their stands shut down by health inspectors. It's not that they are banned, they are just illegal. There is no law saying "NO LEMONADE STANDS". The laws have to do with non licensed establishments serving food/drink.

 

[Cosmic]

So what about calorie displays in these situations:

- Airlines
- Hot dog stands
- A catering service
- fortune cookies at Chinese restaurants
- Those people offering samples at mall food courts.
- A bowl of candy sitting at the exit to a restaurant that's free for any leaving person to pick up.
- On a restaurant buffet, should EVERY single food have the FDA calories/serving statement
- Should farmers have to get a calorie rating for every vegetable they sell privately?

Why don't we just let life happen? The world doesn't end if someone eats too much. Such regulations would be a MASSIVE pain in the ass for EVERYONE. Let's say I make you a sandwich. What if the FDA forced me to tell you how many calories it has?

 

[Nathan]

Honestly I don't think most of you get the point of this proposed change.

Happy Meals attract kids, with the toys, the name, etc. and due to McDonalds being relatively cheap, majority of families will eat there and eventually their kids will love the taste (duh! Maccas is yummy) however the more kids who get attracted to these "Happy" meals will only end up continously eating them until their old enough to stop and buy even bigger meals etc. the point of the proposed change is to try and make McDonalds a healthier choice. However as others have stated, pretty much every restaurant these days is highly unhealthy, so changing one small portion of a McDonald's menu won't help the health of anyone.

 

[Cosmic]

pretty much every restaurant these days is highly unhealthy

I don't give a darn.

 

[MissTake]

To my mind there should be BOTH choices on the menu, a customary happy meal and a healthy option, then there's no argument, people can chose for themselves which meal their kid wants 😉

 

[Cosmic]

To my mind there should be BOTH choices on the menu, a customary happy meal and a healthy option, then there's no argument, people can chose for themselves which meal their kid wants 😉

Should the government force them at gunpoint to have healthy foods on the menu?

 

[katy perry is hot]

To my mind there should be BOTH choices on the menu, a customary happy meal and a healthy option, then there's no argument, people can chose for themselves which meal their kid wants 😉

Should the government force them at gunpoint to have healthy foods on the menu?

The government should force them at gunpoint to provide clear nutritional information.

As for your previous post, yes to all of those. Calorie displays should be present on all of those. As for the farmers thing, no.

 

[Cosmic]

Federally?

 

[Gimgak]

Federally?

Yes.

There is no reason for them not to.

 

[Cosmic]

What if the people of Georgia (for example) don't want to require this?

 

[katy perry is hot]

What if the people of Georgia (for example) don't want to require this?

Too bad. This is a public health issue. None of "the states will decide" BS. This is about the health of our nation and the American people as a whole. Not the health of the people of New Hampshire or the health of the people of Oklahoma. Making the people of this country healthy, fit, aware, cutting CVD, all that is one of the most important things the government should be doing. I'm not saying mandate restaurants on what they can sell, but any type of eating establishment should be required to display calorie information in the menus or on the computer displays when you walk in.

 

[Gimgak]

What if the people of Georgia (for example) don't want to require this?

That would be a terrible thing. The real house wives of atlanta need to watch their calorie intake or they'll get kicked off the show 🙁

 

[Cosmic]

Why the heck do you have the right to dictate other peoples' lives? Consider the magnitude of your statement. There are probably hundreds of thousands of restaurants in the united states. Some of them are chain restaurants but some of them are small country restaurants that sell home-made BBQ. So, are you saying that an FDA inspector should be sent to every single place giving out food in the country and test to see if the calorie amounts are right on a regular basis? We're talking a massive MASSIVE amount of man-power required to enforce this.

Furthermore, it is nearly impossible to gauge the exact amount of calories in every type of food. Not everything has a calorie statement in the store, do you see the amount of calories on apples and watermelons? Of course not.

So how to you propose that federal agents enforce such a law, how do you think every restaurant in the country should measure the exact amount of calories in their food, and furthermore, where in the constitution is congress given the authority to do this?

That would be a terrible thing. The real house wives of atlanta need to watch their calorie intake or they'll get kicked off the show

Please do not make irrelevant comments.

 

[Nuke]

Down with California's absurd regulations! 😛

 

[Gimgak]

Why the heck do you have the right to dictate other peoples' lives?

I'm an evil totalitarian who doesn't appreciate obesity. Thats why.

 

[Cosmic]

Why the heck do you have the right to dictate other peoples' lives?

I'm an evil totalitarian who doesn't appreciate obesity. Thats why.

I already judged that, seeing as you think that other peoples' body fat is your business.

 

[Gimgak]

I have no problem people being obese. They should at least know how many calories are in what they eat. Are you saying when you buy something from the store you don't want to know how much of something you're buying? Weighing something out is also a hassle you know.

 

[Cosmic]

Why don't you approach this problem through the private sector? You could petition these companies to include the calories and not eat anything that you don't know the calories of. Y'all just listed how many calories are in food from certain restaurants (such as applebees) so this knowledge must be somewhere for many places. The thing is that not every business is a standardized chain so therefore it is impractical for them to do this. This problem can be fixed from many non-federal levels which you are not approaching as you're simply too lazy. You believe that your opinion is more important than what individuals think so you can just mandate it on people. That is incorrect. If a local government or business wants this they can implement it.

Again, I would like to hear which clause of the constitution gives the federal government the right to do this.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Which clause of the constitution gives the federal government the right to monitor email and torture people?

Like I said, there is nothing about controlling peoples' lives here. I said numerous times I don't agree with telling restaurants to cook certain meals under government directive. I did however say the government should force ALL companies to CLEARLY mark the calories RIGHT ON THE MENU.

Furthermore, it is nearly impossible to gauge the exact amount of calories in every type of food. Not everything has a calorie statement in the store, do you see the amount of calories on apples and watermelons? Of course not.

You're wrong. It is very easy to gauge the amount of calories. Have you ever taken a damn health class? 1 gram of fat = 9 calories 1 gram of protein = 4 calories etc etc.