Happy Meals; a dieing breed?

[Cosmic]

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I don't think they can do that.

torture people

They aren't torturing citizens, so I don't think that's a constitutional issue.

I don't agree with telling restaurants to cook certain meals under government directive.

If they don't use standard products, how do they know how many calories are in it?

I did however say the government should force ALL companies to CLEARLY mark the calories RIGHT ON THE MENU.

How do you know exactly how many calories there will be in a restaurant setting? Should they count the size and number of French fries they give you?

1 gram of fat = 9 calories 1 gram of protein = 4 calories etc etc.

Do you expect every small BBQ store in the middle of the countryside to calculate the EXACT number of calories in their meals?

If you owned a restaurant you'd probably realize what you are spewing. There is no magic wand that enforces this or even makes it reasonable. Why don't you calculate the number of calories in your damn food? Do things for yourself. you are like the young bird with its mouth open for its mother to put food into it. You and others like you have no self determination, you wait for "mommy" to do things for you.

 

[Gimgak]

Cosmic, do you own a restaurant? Otherwise, who cares? I sure as hell don't care if some company needs to do more work. I mean we could all agree that wall street would have it easier with no regulations, and back with restaurants. Whats the point of health inspectors? Only totalitarians would care about sanitation regulations and the likes.

 

[Cosmic]

We're not talking about corporate giants here.



I would imagine that most restaurants are owned by small businessmen. Do note that many chain restaurants have a brand but they are owned by locals. I think it's perfectly fine if a state declares all out war on obesity and enforces these regulations, but the federal government? It's impossible to enforce and is generally not a good idea. These are things that you can bring to reality on a local level through political activism.

I suggest right now that you run for governor in your own state on the war on obesity ticket. Instead of griping like a child you can actually do this yourself locally. Also, you can take your magic formula and measure the calories in everything before you intake it if you wish.

I believe that local businesses should be regulated on a local level. That is what the constitution says and it makes sense. The only constitutional argument you are making is citing other unconstitutional things. Write your governor a letter and ask him to sue to reverse whatever you think is unconstitutional. America is governed under a federal system. You cannot bend the rules without a constitutional amendment (unless you ignore the constitution, which is illegal)

Are you saying that every risk in our lives should be announced with large signs right in front of our faces? Should houses for sale be stamped with the neighborhood crime rate and air quality and the demographics of the neighborhood so you don't have to do your own research? Should every telephone have a large radioactive sticker on it?



Of course not. However, you are speaking to make it so that restaurants are forced to put up disclaimers in a world which is filled with dangers, thus meaning it's impossible to put a sticker on every single threat possible. People need to use common sense when eating. Also you may be able to learn how man calories are in food items by asking an employee. I know that Burger King does keep a list of the calories somewhere, for example (or at least they used to. I saw it once).

Anyway, if people don't know to watch what they eat, calorie numbers will be meaningless to them.

 

[katy perry is hot]

It's not a magical formula. That's how a calorie is measured. You can look it up online. The thing is, when you put those calories up there, it really shows people and makes them think, "wow, should I really get this thing with 1110 calories or should I go for the other thing with only 430?". Like I said, my local carvel shows the calories. I can't tell you the amount of times I've heard people next to me or been in there with friends of mine who say things like "Wow I am not getting that anymore, I'll get [alternative]."

Instead of looking out for the health of your countrymen, you instead bring up BS arguments about how the states need to do it. To me, someone from New Hampshire is the same thing as someone from New York. Same with whatever state you live in. The country comes before the state. We are all Americans. Heart disease is the number one killer in our country. Now you can argue that people can make their own choices with food. I totally agree with you. If someone is fat, I'm not running over saying OMGGG YOU POOOOR THING YOU CANT EAT ANYTHING BUT OREOS AND FRIED CHICKEN SO LET ME BUY YOU AN ELECTRIC SCOOTER TO DRIVE YOU AROUNDDD. What I believe in is educating people. You're right, restaurants do have to provide those booklets, ON REQUEST. Which means, all of the times people say "I'm not getting that 1100 calorie meal" go right out the window and never happen. This country is fat as fuck and things need to happen to fix it. I'm not saying government mandated feedings or whatever, but requiring clearly displayed caloric content for all foods in a restaurant should be required.

 

[Cosmic]

The thing is, when you put those calories up there, it really shows people and makes them think, "wow, should I really get this thing with 1110 calories or should I go for the other thing with only 430?"

The government should require this:

It will really make people consider if they should use their cellphones.

Like I said, my local carvel shows the calories.

Good for them. I think it's a good idea for businesses to do this on their own accord, just not by force.

I can't tell you the amount of times I've heard people next to me or been in there with friends of mine who say things like "Wow I am not getting that anymore, I'll get [alternative].

Sounds like they found out how many calories were in it. If they did, then why does the nanny state have to force these calorie numbers be displayed on the menu?

Instead of looking out for the health of your countrymen, you instead bring up BS arguments about how the states need to do it.

Actually, when I see someone who is fat I don't think "AMG YOU'RE FAT GO GET A LIFE YOU MONGROL" like many people do. I realize that it's not my business.

To me, someone from New Hampshire is the same thing as someone from New York.

You aren't far off because they are both liberal states. Try comparing California and Texas. Tell me which one wants marijuana legal and which one doesn't.

The country comes before the state.

Not in america. The constitution guarantees the sovereignty of the states in most circumstances. According to the 10th amendment to the Constitution, which is the last amendment in the bill of rights:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Furthermore, the powers delegated to congress are these.

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

It does not mention matters such as this. The closest is the commerce clause, however it refers to inter-state commerce.

What I believe in is educating people

Then do it through the private sector. You can buy some ads on CNN. also note that the average calorie numbers of certain dishes are known. I beleive WeightWatchers has a booklet with all the numbers.

This country is fat as **** and things need to happen to fix it.

Then do it yourself instead of through government mandate. Start a non-profit.

I'm not saying government mandated feedings or whatever, but requiring clearly displayed caloric content for all foods in a restaurant should be required.

I doubt this will make a serious impact. People who are "over"weight don't just look down and say "oshi-- I'm fat!" They know what they're doing.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Sounds like they found out how many calories were in it. If they did, then why does the nanny state have to force these calorie numbers be displayed on the menu?

Because, that's how they found out. It was displayed on the menu.

 

[Gimgak]

Cosmic if you don't want regulations then fine by me. First though I suggest you petition so that restaurant employees don't need to wash their hands and then get Madoff out of jail so you can invest with him. Regulations are unconstitutional.

 

[sapper]

Ha you Americans make me laugh, if you want food labling you should take a look at what we have to put up with over here.

We even to tell people that cheese contains milk FFS

 

[Cosmic]

First though I suggest you petition so that restaurant employees don't need to wash their hands

Every sane state should mandate and enforce that.

then get Madoff out of jail

He engaged in inter-state commerce.

Because, that's how they found out. It was displayed on the menu.

Then petition other restaurants to do the same and your local representatives to mandate it.

We even to tell people that cheese contains milk FFS

The government always assumes that everyone is a moron and has to be treated as such.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Everyone is a moron.

 

[Gimgak]

Ha you Americans make me laugh, if you want food labling you should take a look at what we have to put up with over here.

We even to tell people that cheese contains milk FFS

This is america though, land of the free and the prosperous and the fuck yeah. We look down upon that 3rd world country called "europa" that doesn't even protect children from the dangers of boobs and limits guns. fecking non-baptized commies

 

[Cosmic]

Ha you Americans make me laugh, if you want food labling you should take a look at what we have to put up with over here.

We even to tell people that cheese contains milk FFS

This is america though, land of the free and the prosperous and the **** yeah. We look down upon that 3rd world country called "europa" that doesn't even protect children from the dangers of boobs and limits guns. fecking non-baptized commies

Sure, go on thinking that america is the country of the Georgia hicks who ride around in pickup trucks with their guns. I believe that America is the country of Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Larry Page, Sergey Bren, and so on.

 

[sapper]

Ha you Americans make me laugh, if you want food labling you should take a look at what we have to put up with over here.

We even to tell people that cheese contains milk FFS

This is america though, land of the free and the prosperous and the **** yeah. We look down upon that 3rd world country called "europa" that doesn't even protect children from the dangers of boobs and limits guns. fecking non-baptized commies

There is a country called Europa ? :shrug:

 

[Gimgak]

Why of course. Capital city is France, right?

 

[katy perry is hot]

I saw this article today, it's sort of unrelated to our debate regarding calorie display and such but it is very interesting about how McDonald's food (funny thing it actually is a Happy Meal like the topic name) doesn't even degrade after 6 months.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20 ... six-months

 

[Gimgak]

Seems rather Yummy to me.

 

[Zeus25]

It is a sad news then if that news is really true i guess we all have to say goodbye for the Happy meals. But i think it won't be to long for us if the fast food will think of a food that is more nutritious than the happy meals are. I hope that the fast food will from now on consider to serve more nutritious foods .

 

[agentmanningctu]

Parents could just use their brains and not buy happy meals.

Oh my god, my kid is fat. Let's sue McDonalds just cause I have no common sense. It's all their fault.

 

[Nuke]

The State Government is within its rights to do this.

Doesn't mean I support it, though.

 

[agentmanningctu]

The State Government is within its rights to do this.

Doesn't mean I support it, though.

How does the government have the right to mandate what restaurants sell? If so, how does it let BBQ restaurants sell things like Ribs and steak? Those are much unhealthier than MCD.