Iran is in the process of creating their version if Internet

[xpl0iter]

Re: Iran is in the process of creating their version if Inte

I understand why they are doing this but wouldn't want to live in a country like Iran or any other country in the Middle East.

To many cons to list if you compare it to being a citizen in Belgium for example. :sad:

Me too. I prefer my own country for living too, even after the current govt made a corruption which can be considered as one of the largest corruption in the world.

I stopped reading your post when you seriously asked why it is wrong for Iran to have nukes. They are irresponsible, not well run, and as you can see not even open to challenging their beliefs.
They think that making their own internet is going to fix the issue; which is western influence. That is pathetic. They are indirectly admitting that they cannot run their country with western influence, so they have to resort to ignoring it.
What that shows is that their people and government are not strong enough to have their own belief systems. Furthermore, having an open world where we have access to all points of view and all sides of the story is the only way we can truly grow, be productive, and know what is best for us; personally, as a nation, and as a whole planet.

You're thinking as only an american, thats why you didn't read the whole damn thing.

I don't support nuclear weapons at all. But obviously USA and even our country have those. If your country was attacked by another country, your country will definitely use nukes, you have done it in the past. The same rule applies to them too. It is obvious that US/Israel is going to attack them. So if they had a chance they would do that, its not complicated.

Now do you really think you can't run a country without western influence? Think Chinese! If a country does this censorship, that would make a less strong govt like you said, again think Chinese! I don't think its pathetic.

And I don't see this discussion is going in a fair way. You have your views and I have my own <- I respect that.

 

[Fergal]

Re: Iran is in the process of creating their version if Inte

...America ... rightful position as a world leader...

What do you mean by that?

 

[Ghost]

Re: Iran is in the process of creating their version if Inte

Instead of nuking Iran to get rid of them and preserve Israel, we took out their technology.

Instead of nuking Iraq we have attempted to rebuild their government. That obviously did not work that well, but we still did not drop a nuke.

We never nuked Germany. Or Afghanistan. or Cuba. Or Libya. and we're not nuking Egypt although they attacked our embassies. We also have not nuked Mexico although they support the illegal drug trade like therapists support unstable teenagers; without the therapists the teenager would be lost; without the cartels the drug trade would be lost (and by lost I mean crippled and on a lesser scale).

To generalize American government on the fact that we have nukes is pointless. With Russia, we could have nuked them and they could have nuked us. We did not. Sure, we could nuke the world many times over and destroy everyone. But do we?
Our current candidates also do not support the war. Sure, they may have high budgets for military defense, but that does not mean they condone the killing of citizens.
Whereas Iran does. And if you are silly enough to disregard or deny that to yourself then you are in a state of mind that I cannot change.

America is not the best country, but we are rightful in being A world leader (not THE) as in we have gained power, earned a say in important matters, and while we may seem like 'world police' it is with good intentions. I personally do not think that we should police the world like we have in the past. However, I think that my opposition to an independent internet network in Iran is built on strong beliefs of openness being the key to success and improvement.
Also please note that the Japanese were warned of their imminent destruction if they did not sign a surrender agreement. They declined the offer of an ending to the war, and thus brought it on themselves. That does not justify it, but it's not like America was not diplomatic.

I respect your views too, and I think we need to get back on topic which is the exclusion of personal choice when it comes to which beliefs citizens have access to in Iran.
Not only that though, it cuts Iran off which means less openness for everyone else too! How can people begin to understand an Irani view if they can't even hear about them or contact the Irani?
Sure, every country should have their own freedom! That is part of America not being the world police. Yet they are doing it in the wrong way.

Disclaimer: I appreciate all races, nationalities etc and am simply arguing against the Irani government, and defending the American government. I personally oppose some of the American government's past actions, but am laying out the facts in a way that supports my view.

 

[xpl0iter]

Re: Iran is in the process of creating their version if Inte

USA nuked Japan in ww2! 😵

Whereas Iran does. And if you are silly enough to disregard or deny that to yourself then you are in a state of mind that I cannot change.

No I won't deny it! But Israel too is a country just like Iran imo. They always want war, even from the BC days. Anyway if your country's current govt doesn't support war that is a good news! Really!

Sure, every country should have their own freedom! That is part of America not being the world police. Yet they are doing it in the wrong way.

Anyway I appreciate you saying this.

Peace Brother! \m/ 😀

 

[Ghost]

Re: Iran is in the process of creating their version if Inte

I guess Israel does have their flaws, but they participate in their own way. In the end it comes down to who's allies with who.

Also, America has killed over 100,000 innocent citizens (directly and indirectly) in the war on terror. IMO that's mass murder. However, it is "justified" by politicians so it is presented as collateral damage from stopping terrorism whereas Iran is made out to be a government that just wants to run around and Do their own thing.
Perhaps Internet freedom is good, and maybe it's bad- we shall find out.

 

[master412160]

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run around and Do their own thing.

America in a way to....

The Bush administration has used the media to brainwash its people in supporting the war to invade Iraq because it had weapons of mass destruction.

Turns out they never found any of those there and it was just to do about the oil.

That and the vietnam war are two wars America shouldn't have created.

I don't have anything against America or Americans but the hate of people towards America/Americans doesn't come from nowhere.

 

[Ghost]

Re: Iran is in the process of creating their version if Inte

run around and Do their own thing.

America in a way to....

The Bush administration has used the media to brainwash its people in supporting the war to invade Iraq because it had weapons of mass destruction.

Turns out they never found any of those there and it was just to do about the oil.

That and the vietnam war are two wars America shouldn't have created.

I don't have anything against America or Americans but the hate of people towards America/Americans doesn't come from nowhere.

Very true. It sucks that that's what we had to do, but oil (or a source of fuel) is the future.