Is religion the root of all evil?

Is religion the root of all evil? Nope. Evil people are the root of all evil. Genocidal are the root of genocides, murderers are the root of murders.

Religion may not be the root of all evil, but fairly often it is the excuse for evil. Take the bible for example:

scriptures like Leviticus 25:44-46, Exodus 21:7-11 and Exodus 21:20-21describe laws that endorse the practice of indentured servitude, selling your daughter as a sex slave, and even beating a slave within an inch of his or her life. Slavery is even endorsed within the new testament in scriptures like Ephesians 6:5 and 1 Timothy 6:1-2.

Here is a short list of capital punishments within the old testament:

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)



Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)



2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets

1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die

So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)


... Just to name a very few.

I think after reading that, we can safely assume that religion may not be the root of ALL evil, but this particular religion is definitely a product of it.
 
There is so much Bologna from ATiRAGEPRO's post, almost border-line hate speech, reported 😉

Also, Exodus 22:17 is "If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins."

Not "You should not let a sorceress live. "

If you can't clearly comprehend or copy+paste messages correctly out of the bible, don't post at all, please.

The next thing we need in this world is for people to spread the opposite message of Jesus Christ has to offer...
 
SpeakWhatsReal said:
There is so much Bologna from ATiRAGEPRO's post, almost border-line hate speech, reported 😉
I'm not entirely sure you understand the definition of the word "hate speech". I would suggest you educate yourself on the term before you even consider using rhetoric like that. :roll: Also, using words like "almost border-line" is like saying "probably sort-of"; it means absolutely nothing. :shake:

Also, Exodus 22:17 is "If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins."

Not "You should not let a sorceress live. "

If you can't clearly comprehend or copy+paste messages correctly out of the bible, don't post at all, please.

Exidous 22:17 NAB (New American Bible) and Exodus 22:17 NIV (New International Version) are two completely different scriptures from different translations of the same book; Not an error on my part. I suggest you actually start paying attention to the little acronyms at the end of each scripture so that in the future, you won't make the same mistake.

There is so much Bologna from ATiRAGEPRO's post
Prove it. Give me a scripture in that list out of context, or is somehow misunderstood. Go ahead. Do it. Don't give me that old fallacious nonsense where you just claim that a statement is wrong without providing any justifiable evidence for your assertion.
 
ATiRAGEPRO said:
SpeakWhatsReal said:
There is so much Bologna from ATiRAGEPRO's post, almost border-line hate speech, reported 😉
I'm not entirely sure you understand the definition of the word "hate speech". I would suggest you educate yourself on the term before you even consider using rhetoric like that. :roll: Also, using words like "almost border-line" is like saying "probably sort-of"; it means absolutely nothing. :shake:

Also, Exodus 22:17 is "If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins."

Not "You should not let a sorceress live. "

If you can't clearly comprehend or copy+paste messages correctly out of the bible, don't post at all, please.

Exidous 22:17 NAB (New American Bible) and Exodus 22:17 NIV (New International Version) are two completely different scriptures from different translations of the same book; Not an error on my part. I suggest you actually start paying attention to the little acronyms at the end of each scripture so that in the future, you won't make the same mistake.

There is so much Bologna from ATiRAGEPRO's post
Prove it. Give me a scripture in that list out of context, or is somehow misunderstood. Go ahead. Do it. Don't give me that old fallacious nonsense where you just claim that a statement is wrong without providing any justifiable evidence for your assertion.

Lol'd. What's your goal of trying to spread hate speech through taking words out of context from the bible and spewing it and posting about it? What's your end goal? You're doing absolutely nothing and wasting time by doing so. Don't post false information from the bible to try to make others perceive as the bible is bad. At most what you are doing is actually spreading the word out more, but oh wait you're against the bible. see my points? You're wasting your time and mine.
 
SpeakWhatsReal said:
Lol'd. What's your goal of trying to spread hate speech through taking words out of context from the bible and spewing it and posting about it?

  • "Hate speech"

    noun
    speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. - dictionary.com

Name one person or Group I directly attacked. DO IT! If you're going to use a rhetorical such as "hate speech," at least know what the term actually means! It isn't "Hate speech" just because you don't agree with it, and to report a post for "Hate speech" when you don't even know what the term "hate speech" means is just unbelievably silly. I'm actually embarrassed for you right now.
:rofl:
SpeakWhatsReal said:
What's your end goal?
What in the world are you talking about? Who said I had an "end goal?" Did you think that post was some massive conspiracy against your religion or something? Not everyone that disagrees with your religion is out to GET your religion. I posted exactly what was in the Bible! Show me a scripture in that list misunderstood or taken out of context! Go ahead!

SpeakWhatsReal said:
You're doing absolutely nothing and wasting time by doing so.
Don't post false information from the bible to try to make others perceive as the bible is bad.
I'm still waiting for you to show me ONE scripture in my initial post taken out of context or misunderstood. All I'm hearing from your responses are just empty claims of me spreading false information that you continue to provide no evidence for. :shrug:

SpeakWhatsReal said:
At most what you are doing is actually spreading the word out more, but oh wait you're against the bible. see my points? You're wasting your time and mine.
That actually wasn't a point, but whatever. :lol: You see, to make a point you need to evaluate your assumptions with evidence, then make your conclusion based on evidence before you can make a "point."

What you really made is what's called a Straw-man fallacy. You made up some baseless, misrepresented claims about my position on the Bible and now you're attacking your own misrepresentation.

I'm still waiting for that stern rebuttal to the my first post, wherein you outline at least ONE scripture in my first post that was taken out of context, or somehow misunderstood. There is no reason for anyone to believe anything you have to say without evidence, so show everyone the evidence. :shake:
 
Holy crap. What's the point of soooo much negative attitude towards each other. You give your opinion, someone else disagrees - be a sane person and accept not everyone is going to accept your opinion. No point in trying to shove anything down anyone's throat. People are going to believe what they believe. People change when they see something else that suits them better, good or bad, religion or no religion. Faith(in religion). have it or don't, just be a morally respectable person. Religion provides the roots to a lot of extremists but also to a lot of amazing people. So does no-religion.
 
Dean Reacher said:
Holy crap. What's the point of soooo much negative attitude towards each other.
There is no mutual animosity in those responses, so I would appreciate it if you didn't lump me in with SpeakWhat'sReal. I'm not emotionally invested in this exchange at all, but I am also not the one posting incoherent retorts or flagging posts as "hate speech" simply because I didn't like what was in them.
:lol:
Read the posts in context, and you will see that someone is clearly correct and someone clearly isn't. 😉
 
ATiRAGEPRO said:
Dean Reacher said:
Holy crap. What's the point of soooo much negative attitude towards each other.
There is no mutual animosity in those responses, so I would appreciate it if you didn't lump me in with SpeakWhat'sReal. I'm not emotionally invested in this exchange at all, but I am also not the one posting incoherent retorts or flagging posts as "hate speech" simply because I didn't like what was in them.
:lol:
Read the posts in context, and you will see that someone is clearly correct and someone clearly isn't. 😉

Actually I wasn't specifically referring to you, rather the whole topic and most users involved with it.
 
Expired Account 3 said:
ATiRAGEPRO said:
Dean Reacher said:
Holy crap. What's the point of soooo much negative attitude towards each other.
There is no mutual animosity in those responses, so I would appreciate it if you didn't lump me in with SpeakWhat'sReal. I'm not emotionally invested in this exchange at all, but I am also not the one posting incoherent retorts or flagging posts as "hate speech" simply because I didn't like what was in them.
:lol:
Read the posts in context, and you will see that someone is clearly correct and someone clearly isn't. 😉

Actually I wasn't specifically referring to you, rather the whole topic and most users involved with it.

Religion topics tend to have that effect.
 
NBK*Twitch said:
DavidL said:
dante1217 said:
Every war we have fought as been over Religion , Funny thing is most people say Religions people are supposed to be peaceful.
That's a very ignorant comment. Simply, WW1 and WW2 were not religious wars. The belligerents may have had a religion, but they weren't fighting because the enemy had a different religion.

I gotta disagree here,WW2 did have something to do with religion. Does the holocaust ring any bells?

While the entire war wasn't based on that,some of it was. So one can say there was religion had something to do with it.

The holocaust was a result of the war, not the reason the war started, Hitler wanted to "cleanse" Germany.

-- 05 Sep 2012, 14:35 --

ATiRAGEPRO said:
SpeakWhatsReal said:
There is so much Bologna from ATiRAGEPRO's post, almost border-line hate speech, reported 😉
I'm not entirely sure you understand the definition of the word "hate speech". I would suggest you educate yourself on the term before you even consider using rhetoric like that. :roll: Also, using words like "almost border-line" is like saying "probably sort-of"; it means absolutely nothing. :shake:

Also, Exodus 22:17 is "If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins."

Not "You should not let a sorceress live. "

If you can't clearly comprehend or copy+paste messages correctly out of the bible, don't post at all, please.

Exidous 22:17 NAB (New American Bible) and Exodus 22:17 NIV (New International Version) are two completely different scriptures from different translations of the same book; Not an error on my part. I suggest you actually start paying attention to the little acronyms at the end of each scripture so that in the future, you won't make the same mistake.

There is so much Bologna from ATiRAGEPRO's post
Prove it. Give me a scripture in that list out of context, or is somehow misunderstood. Go ahead. Do it. Don't give me that old fallacious nonsense where you just claim that a statement is wrong without providing any justifiable evidence for your assertion.

We all know the Bible belt of America has it's own version of the bible, to pick and choose to how you see fit is wrong, the Evangelist American bible is totally different in it's translation to any other version.

In order to understand the bible fully, you have to read it as it was written... in Hebrew.. it has been translated many times, Hebrew > Latin> Modern Latin > Olde English > English> New English, a lot was lost in the translation from Hebrew to Latin<br /><br />-- 05 Sep 2012, 14:49 --<br /><br />I am probably one of the few on here who can remember talking to a relative or relatives who were veterans of WW1, one Grandfather having served in the Navy, the other a member of the SWB present at Gallipoli, and spent several years on the Somme, and naturally survived the last great push.
He went to war a very religious man, church every Sunday, being a landholder he made sure that everyone in his hamlet in Herefordshire had a Turkey for Christmas, and was seen as a very Christian man, on his return, he had turned his back on god, he told my father that anything allows a man to do that to another man is not a god, it is a harbinger of doom.
When he died in 1969, he hadn't changed those views, he never had a church service, he never even had a vicar, he was taken straight form the mortuary to the Crematorium, his ashes were scattered by my Father a week later on a hill above where he was born.

Thats what war does to people.
 
Well isnt this a very contentious subject, well let me add my opinion too it.
I dont think that religion itself evil however i do think a lot of evil in the world is based on or fueled by religion.

At the risk of being criticized for it i will point out that at this particular moment in time all the wars in the world are fueled by religion, Islam in particular, Islam has been at the heart of war since 636 CE.

To balance my comments i also point out that the "crusades" were a serious of wars "blessed" by Pope Urban II and the Roman Catholic Church, i will back that up with the fact that the worst terrorism the United Kingdom has been victim too was also as a result of a war of religion between Ireland and England.

All Religion has its fanatics and its extremists and all of those extreme views usually result in war or terrorism.

Sexual delinquency is another problem faced and quite often is endorsed by religion. It is common knowledge the Prophet Mohammed had many children brides, on the other side of the coin Catholics have dressed young boys in alter dresses for centuries. There are deviants both men and women and although not caused by religion it is religion used as a reason for such terrible behavior.

My main problem, the thing that keeps me awake at night is animal cruelty, religion is behind a lot of animal cruelty. RELIGIOUS SLAUGHTER is without doubt a real and present problem Halal(Islam) and Kosher(Jewish) way of slaughter are without doubt barbaric and do cause the unnecessary suffering of animals.

To finish religion is something that gives millions of people comfort and fills millions with joy and happiness BUT it also gives people, bad people an excuse to be bad, it is NOT the root of all evil BUT evil certainly hides behind Religion!

Can i just add that the comment above are my own personal views i intend to cast no personal harm or upset to any individual or groups, these are my beliefs and i was invited to express them by this topic
 
Islam, Christian and Jews are 3 Religions, each one has its book, Way of worship, What's not sin or Sin.. Also its evil Type.
I hate it when a religious person wether Muslim, Christian or jews is acting in a misinterpreting way of what the God says Which makes you hate Your own Religion.
As for the Jihad Attacks around the world, these people don't belong to any Religion, they are just bunch of idiots who try despretaly change the world to their primary old 3rd Century way of living.

Also last thursday they Burned a Holy Quran and one of the biggest monuments in Tunisia. >_>
 
bloom said:
Islam, Christian and Jews are 3 Religions, each one has its book, Way of worship, What's not sin or Sin.. Also its evil Type.
They are more similar than most think.
 
I haven't got a problem with anyone having an imaginary friend, but when they use that imaginary friend as an excuse to hurt people,... I tend to get a little bit annoyed.
 
It's the "love of money" that is the root of all evil. But I also think it's pride. There are evil people in religion no doubt. But there are equally non-religious people who are evil. So what group can call themselves any less evil than another group? This begs the question, is man inheritantly good or inheritantly evil? If man has evil intent, what can save man? If man is inheritantly good, why isn't our society improving?

But at this time, I think the love of money is the root of all evil. Look at our econcomy. Madoff, Stanford, Thain, just to name a few recent names. Swiss bank account with thousands of tax evading accounts. Where do I stop.

If you want religion to be the root of all evil, put on some red shoes, close your eyes, click your heels three times, and do your chant.

If people are inherantly good, then why aren't there more answers to spur one another on toward good deeds and spirits? Something to ponder about.
 
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