Question

[Laugh]

I'm wondering about this service, how does it help? I mean I can imagine it benefiting a lot of people in the past; but the site seems SO big with a bunch of members coming here just to advertise it hardly seems like it is effective anymore.

Can someone help me? Sorry for sounding rude.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

I wrote a blog article on this in the past. Feel free to check it out. 🙂

blog.php?mode=view&b=17

 

[Laugh]

That was a good read, but my point was after awhile (when activity is very very high) it will become ineffective(the text/banner advertisements on the forum) and there will be too many requests for posts. I was asking if this board has reached that stage.

 

[Gimgak]

That was a good read, but my point was after awhile (when activity is very very high) it will become ineffective(the text/banner advertisements on the forum) and there will be too many requests for posts. I was asking if this board has reached that stage.

that has at least come true, reason the packages are so much smaller now. That and instability in the package department, it's probably the hardest job save for admins if you actually do your share.

 

[Laugh]

Yeah so I guess I'm sort of right, not that it matters much. It just seemed like after awhile people would get bored and it'd all fall apart. Maybe new team members are needed?

 

[David]

Yeah so I guess I'm sort of right, not that it matters much. It just seemed like after awhile people would get bored and it'd all fall apart. Maybe new team members are needed?

I honestly don't understand how a new member like you can judge the forum in any possible way? (no offense intended, but I'm confused here)

Members come and go all the time; all forums are like that, but FP has quite a few long term members still actively posting. If you check out the forum statistics, FP has a really good member to post ratio compared to other large forums (79 per member) and the forum continues to grow, with its last 100,000 posts being the fastest yet from looking at the archives.

The team leaders will release application threads for new team members. There are two at the moment; packages and content teams. Also, as long as the forum can provide something for new members, then I can't see the forum falling apart.

I'm just really confused 😕 Could you please elaborate on your position?

 

[Mik.]

Well if the forum gets too huge more staffs will be hired and keep the forum running. In my opinion this is the best advertising forum out there.

 

[Laugh]

Yeah so I guess I'm sort of right, not that it matters much. It just seemed like after awhile people would get bored and it'd all fall apart. Maybe new team members are needed?

I honestly don't understand how a new member like you can judge the forum in any possible way? (no offense intended, but I'm confused here)

Members come and go all the time; all forums are like that, but FP has quite a few long term members still actively posting. If you check out the forum statistics, FP has a really good member to post ratio compared to other large forums (79 per member) and the forum continues to grow, with its last 100,000 posts being the fastest yet from looking at the archives.

The team leaders will release application threads for new team members. There are two at the moment; packages and content teams. Also, as long as the forum can provide something for new members, then I can't see the forum falling apart.

I'm just really confused 😕 Could you please elaborate on your position?

I'm not trying to say the site is trash or anything similar, in fact I probably will use and contribute to it in the future. It seems like a great resource.

I'm basing what I'm saying off experience, common sense, and a member here(Gimgak) saying it is correct. If you have 2 post requests per day and 6 team members that is fine and nothing is an issue. But if activity picks up greatly and you have 15 requests per day and 6 team members. You'll have to lower/limit the packages and eventually you'll have to stop offering the service for free or something similar.

Same for banner, text, footer, FOTM, Featured Forums, etc. Eventually there will be such a GREAT demand there will be website links everywhere and it will no longer be effective since instead of there being two popular links there will be either 10+ or it will have to change nearly everyday.

I'm sort of rambling and sorry for coming off as a jerk. I was just wondering what stage the forum was at regarding this. It will always be a great resource for tools and guides, bur eventually the other things will not work as well. Only solution I can think of is limiting registrations (take the amount you get per day and only keeping them open until half that amount registers or for certain hours during the day), making registrations paid or making the services paid (real currency, not the forum currency), or adding more team members to volunteer or you will have to pay them.

Either way it seems like if you want the service to continue in a year or two from now; money or greater limitations will have to be involved.

Sorry for barging in like that

Well if the forum gets too huge more staffs will be hired and keep the forum running. In my opinion this is the best advertising forum out there.

I agree it does look and seem to perform very nicely.

 

[death180]

First off, when any service gets too many requests, more slots aren't added (lets say for the table ads on the index) the four spots remain and none are added, they will also stay the correct duration, no longer, no shorter. If it becomes too much of a backlog that forum will be closed and thus halting futher requests until it dies down. Thats how hte packages work, and if you would have been here before you would have seen that quite often, and that is how they will work in the future.
So there is no need to worry, there are lots of requests and that's just what you will have to deal with, it's just a bit of a longer waiting time, there is no need to add real cash into the equation and no need to limit registrations.

 

[David]

I'm basing what I'm saying off experience, common sense, and a member here(Gimgak) saying it is correct. If you have 2 post requests per day and 6 team members that is fine and nothing is an issue. But if activity picks up greatly and you have 15 requests per day and 6 team members. You'll have to lower/limit the packages and eventually you'll have to stop offering the service for free or something similar.

FP doesn't offer the posting packages for free, nor the review or other services. They are paid for using FP Cash which is 2FP$ per post you make and 4FP$ per topic you make. You still have to contribute to FP in order to get posts for your forum. Of course demand is an issue, but there are other ways around it, ie. increasing the cost, increasing the waiting time, decreasing how much you can earn per post. More staff will be brought in if there is a crazy backlog or higher demand which is evident through the forum's history.

Same for banner, text, footer, FOTM, Featured Forums, etc. Eventually there will be such a GREAT demand there will be website links everywhere and it will no longer be effective since instead of there being two popular links there will be either 10+ or it will have to change nearly everyday.

Yes, that's true, we have had demand, hence why there was a recent price increase. Again, since you are a new member, you wouldn't have noticed that, which is ultimately why I am confused as to how your comments are making any sense. Demand won't be an issue whilst there is a payment system.

I'm sort of rambling and sorry for coming off as a jerk.

Not at all; I just like to see strong justification for any comments, and whilst you being still a "relatively" new member, it's just hard to see you justify your comments, but ideas are still appreciated.

I was just wondering what stage the forum was at regarding this. It will always be a great resource for tools and guides, bur eventually the other things will not work as well. Only solution I can think of is limiting registrations (take the amount you get per day and only keeping them open until half that amount registers or for certain hours during the day), making registrations paid or making the services paid (real currency, not the forum currency), or adding more team members to volunteer or you will have to pay them.

The forum has been through more than on face value, so I'm sure (though I can't speak for the staff) that the services will continue to work.

Either way it seems like if you want the service to continue in a year or two from now; money or greater limitations will have to be involved.

Sorry for barging in like that

I disagree with that, from experience.

 

[Laugh]

Thanks for helping me out. I'll stick around so I can better understand. Thanks.

 

[AnAccount]

First off, when any service gets too many requests, more slots aren't added (lets say for the table ads on the index) the four spots remain and none are added, they will also stay the correct duration, no longer, no shorter. If it becomes too much of a backlog that forum will be closed and thus halting futher requests until it dies down. Thats how hte packages work, and if you would have been here before you would have seen that quite often, and that is how they will work in the future.
So there is no need to worry, there are lots of requests and that's just what you will have to deal with, it's just a bit of a longer waiting time, there is no need to add real cash into the equation and no need to limit registrations.

Exactly. A lot of promotion forums operate in this manner. Adding more slots would only increase the workload for staff, and sometimes you have to wait long enough for a service to be completed as it is. Not only that, even if FP were to hire more staff, there would still be a backlog of work from all aspects, simply because there aren't always enough people interested and willing to do the job. So while it is probably a good idea to advertise for more staff members, it just won't work because a lot of people have forums of their own, and it would be next to impossible to find long-term staff as it is. I actually even remember one advertisement forum that had to do away with the Packaging service because they couldn't find enough people who would be willing to stay committed to the task at hand. I'm sure there are forums more active than this where you can wait quite some time for your request to be completed, simply because the forum is so active.

 

[Justin]

Hey there,

First off welcome to FP 🙂 - Generally all of our services are the best you can get in terms of free advertising on a forum. How much you get back from a service depends on how you use it. The banner ads can be incredibly effective with a great and colorful banner, but can be not so helpful with a badly sized transparent forum logo that has a pixel look.

Pretty much that goes for most of the services here. There is something here that will defiantly help you 🙂 And in terms of our member base, it does more good that we have more members and a larger community, because it is more eyes that can see your ad! 🙂

 

[Grumpy]

Actually, I find that the most effective service here is the Basic Promotion advert. You can get 100's of views on your topic easily, and normally when someone views your topic, they click the link. Other good services are the packaging service, but that's always very busy (check now), and I find the review service to be a good one although when it's only from one person's view it's pretty hard to figure out what is wrong and what is right as sometimes it can just be that one persons' opinion.

 

[juststeven]

Yeah so I guess I'm sort of right, not that it matters much. It just seemed like after awhile people would get bored and it'd all fall apart. Maybe new team members are needed?

If your saying one day we will not be able to handle requests then your wrong if we find keeping the backlog down hard then we either just attack the backlog or if it's getting real bad we hire a new package team member so it doesn't happen again.

 

[Deleted member 7467]

Various response to your topic have been given, but it seems to me you have a problem with the PT? Best bet is to contact Sshadow and talk to him about it, as he's the TL.

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