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A federal appeals court said Friday that software makers can use shrink-wrap and click-wrap licenses to forbid the transfer or resale of their wares, an apparent gutting of the so-called first-sale doctrine.

The first-sale doctrine is an affirmative defense to copyright infringement that allows legitimate owners of copies of copyrighted works to resell those copies. That defense, the court said, is “unavailable to those who are only licensed to use their copies of copyrighted works.” (.pdf)

The 3-0 decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeal, if it stands, means copyright owners may prohibit the resale of their wares by inserting clauses in their sales agreements.
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/0 ... z0zB8jIv7Q

While this ruling was for software, it can apply to anything thats copyrighted. Feel like picking up a used game at gamestop? Nope, thats illegal. Used movie off of craigslist? You're no better than a pirate. Gonna buy that old CD off your friend? Fuck You!

Copyright laws in this country are out of control and are affecting the rest of the world too. We basically don't own any form of entertainment anymore; we just have a "license" to use it that can be removed at any time whenever the mafiaa or anyone else in the criminal entertainment industry sees fit.
 
The 9th "circus" court of appeals is the most overruled court in the nation.
 
Copyright laws are written to make everyone fear companies that write software. This will continue to happen as long as big business controls both Republicans and Democrats in Congress.
 
Snobothehobo said:
Copyright laws are written to make everyone fear companies that write software. This will continue to happen as long as big business controls both Republicans and Democrats in Congress.
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Which translates to most things the government does that make no freaking sense. maffiaa has gone as far as to try to purchase TPB, Isohunt and other torrent sites for user information. Of course this is nothing, from telling children to rat out pirate friends with strangely similar tactics of nazi germany and reap benefits, to making fake videos of celebrities getting murdered for pirating their material. Hell, it's even normal practice for copyright protection groups to DDOS resistant torrent sites.

Commit a Felony to protect copyright laws today! 😀
 
Gimgak said:
... telling children to rat out pirate friends...
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This one in particular bothers me. People in this country are always trying to brainwash children to follow the tyrannical laws of this country without questioning. Children should be taught to question absolutely everything, especially authority.
 
Agree with you 100%. I don't even though whats worse, the copyright mob or when PETA gave out pamphlets to kids urging them to hide their pets from daddy and mommy because they're crazy about killing animals.

These organizations know who to target sadly. They've let a generation slip through with copyright, but I think they're gonna put up a bigger show for the next one.

Also, Im pretty sure the nazi influenced copyright comic book that had children rat out their friends was in the UK, but wouldn't be surprised to see the same here.
 
The nice thing about copyright laws, though, is that they can't generally be enforced well. For example, it's illegal to install a game on more than one computer (if memory serves). This law is obviously extremely stupid (if I want to let a friend borrow a game, then I should have every right), but how the hell would you ever pray to police that?

However, there will soon be ways for them to police these laws, unfortunately. Privacy no longer exists in most developed countries.
 
It will only apply for newer things though. For used games, this will have no effect because developers aren't going to go back and add the clause to their agreements of five year old games.
 
Agentmanningctu said:
It will only apply for newer things though. For used games, this will have no effect because developers aren't going to go back and add the clause to their agreements of five year old games.
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Today's new games are tomorrow's used games.
 
Gamestop sucks fat ones anyway...just trade with friends.

Craigslist works too, it's off the books.
 
Snobothehobo said:
The nice thing about copyright laws, though, is that they can't generally be enforced well. For example, it's illegal to install a game on more than one computer (if memory serves). This law is obviously extremely stupid (if I want to let a friend borrow a game, then I should have every right), but how the hell would you ever pray to police that?

However, there will soon be ways for them to police these laws, unfortunately. Privacy no longer exists in most developed countries.
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Depends per company on how many copies you're allowed. With Ubisofts "online at all times" DRM you can have as many installs as you want xD. But Yeah borrowing is illegal under copyright law.

and agent, it doesn't matter since a lot of game publishers already put this in their EULA. It was just never endorsed.

Are we gonna have black markets for used games now? That south park episode isn't that far from reality really.
 
Agentmanningctu said:
I'd like to see someone take me to court over a $5 used game.
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Court? No, not a single person. Wouldn't surprise me if they decided to sue a big used game retailer to make an example, and then proceed to spew propaganda in normal mafiaa fashion.
 
"DOWNLOADING PIRATED MOVIES IS ILLEGAL! IF YOUR MOMMY AND DADDY ARE DOING IT, REPORT THEM TO THESE NICE GUYS IN DARK SUITS. WE PROMISE THAT WE'LL REWARD YOU BY SHIPPING YOU OFF EITHER TO RELATIVES WHOM YOU DON'T KNOW OR LOVELY GROUP HOMES TO BE ABUSED SINCE MOMMY AND DADDY WILL BOTH BE IN JAIL AND WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF YOU!!!! DOWNLOADING PIRATED MOVIES IS JUST LIKE STEALING SOMEONE'S MEDICATION THAT THEY NEED TO LIVE. CORPORATIONS NEED MONEY! THEY'RE BROKE, AND IF YOU DON'T REPORT THESE EVILDOERS, THEY MIGHT NEED TO GO GET SOME CORPORATE WELFARE!" 😀
 
I'm off to report myself. My downloading habits alone could probably support the industry for a long time. Looking at current fines they give for each song, I have caused over 9 billion dollars in damages with music alone! Well, 9 more and I'll be as big of a villain as Madoff xD

**For mafiaa reading this thread. This isn't true. I didnt download this music. I legitimately bought it from the CD store... they still have those right?
 
Gimgak said:
I'm off to report myself. My downloading habits alone could probably support the industry for a long time. Looking at current fines they give for each song, I have caused over 9 billion dollars in damages with music alone! Well, 9 more and I'll be as big of a villain as Madoff xD
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-Gimgak calls the place where you report copyright violators-
"Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I've been downloading-"
-Gimgak is suddenly surrounded by eighty-five police officers and fifty-four FBI agents-
-a murder occurs outside and none of them move-
 
Well looking at it closer I could have stolen anywhere from $1 million to trillions of dollars worth of music. Seems they're allowed to fine up to $150000 per song xD
 
Cool. You could use one of your violations to buy a four bedroom house. xD
 
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