Your thoughts on Homosexuality?

if someone is never attracted to the other sex, how can you explain that? Someone can indeed be born gay. It has happened even though your totally not going to agree with it
 
I'm sorry but you're making absolutely zero sense to me right now. The fact is that homosexuality is observed in tons of animals plus, humans closest living relative, the bonobo are almost all bisexual. Don't give me that stuff about homosexuality isn't a born trait. It's how you're born. You don't make the choice to be gay..
 
irviding is right. I would never choose to be this way. But I always have been
 
I personally believe you were either born with a sexuality or you grew up with it, it's a part of who someone is, it's definitely not a choice. I'm the same as Krys, i wouldn't have chosen to be gay if i had a choice because of what irviding said in an earlier post - theres a hell of a lot of discrimination against gays, but it's just a part of who i am so i'll live with it 🙂

And thanks ghost :great:
 
sykx said:
I am completely against it ... I don't like the idea ... I'm not religious actually very scientific and and such and I believe there is not possible way to be born homosexual...

Yes there are a few amongst that have difficulties choosing or being a part of one sex due to medical conditions but thats another discussion...

Everyone who wants to be or is homosexual did it because of some personal influence or choice. There is no way except psychologically to 'create' a homosexual person and now-a-days with all of the 'sex-sales' attitudes this may be a big influence on such behaviors ...

nonetheless, I am completely against even though I have a few friends that happen to be homosexual, I do not stand for the activity around me.... so

Lol..sorry, but when i read this i felt like i had gone back in time. Its amazing how ignorance can still be in full effect in this day and age.....I thought homophobia went out with slavery....anyhow.

I do not judge anyones sexuality...Im not that shallow. 😛
I judge individualism... and Mike has openly admitted his sexuality, does that change what i think of him? No...i still think hes an annoying lil turd :lol: Hahaha...he knows im kidding, I actually think he is a lovely guy, who has a very mature head on his shoulders.

So..my take on it is...Anyone who has a "problem" with it...is actually the person with the "problem"
Deal with it :evil:
 
In comparison to animal behavior, I would like to assume you’re only kidding around, but to answer your question, the human is much more intelligent and understanding of their situation and circumstance(s), compared to an animal, who has no where near the learning or comprehension capacity.

To compare our actions to the actions of our closest relative, a bonobo, is silly. Also, their sexual behavior has not been established as any more sexual in nature than a friendly greeting. Dogs sniff each other’s bottom, humans shake hands. I will not compare butt sniffing to human behavior, and give myself the okay to sniff other people's bottom. Same case here, just because a bonobo may participate in heterosexual acts, how come it justifies your actions as a human? We are not bonobos or Dogs, or any animal for that matter, therefore I will compare myself to other humans and their normal behaviors.

To be BORN with a specific sexuality would mean that you had inherited a trait or characteristic from your future generation, please explain to me which parent or grandparent, or grandparents’ grandparents your genetic trait was inherited from? (Remember sexual reproduction involves a male and female.)
 
Jughead said:
In comparison to animal behavior, I would like to assume you’re only kidding around, but to answer your question, the human is much more intelligent and understanding of their situation and circumstance(s), compared to an animal, who has no where near the learning or comprehension capacity.

To compare our actions to the actions of our closest relative, a bonobo, is silly. Also, their sexual behavior has not been established as any more sexual in nature than a friendly greeting. Dogs sniff each other’s bottom, humans shake hands. I will not compare butt sniffing to human behavior, and give myself the okay to sniff other people's bottom. Same case here, just because a bonobo may participate in heterosexual acts, how come it justifies your actions as a human? We are not bonobos or Dogs, or any animal for that matter, therefore I will compare myself to other humans and their normal behaviors.

To be BORN with a specific sexuality would mean that you had inherited a trait or characteristic from your future generation, please explain to me which parent or grandparent, or grandparents’ grandparents your genetic trait was inherited from? (Remember sexual reproduction involves a male and female.)
Traits can be dormant through many generations.
 
therefore I will compare myself to other humans and their normal behaviors.
This my friend is where you fail...
Why would you choose to compare yourself to anything? And what is normal? Where does the line cross from being normal...to "abnormal"?
The key word is individualism....It doesnt take genetics to make me what i am.
 
Jughead said:
In comparison to animal behavior, I would like to assume you’re only kidding around, but to answer your question, the human is much more intelligent and understanding of their situation and circumstance(s), compared to an animal, who has no where near the learning or comprehension capacity.

To compare our actions to the actions of our closest relative, a bonobo, is silly. Also, their sexual behavior has not been established as any more sexual in nature than a friendly greeting. Dogs sniff each other’s bottom, humans shake hands. I will not compare butt sniffing to human behavior, and give myself the okay to sniff other people's bottom. Same case here, just because a bonobo may participate in heterosexual acts, how come it justifies your actions as a human? We are not bonobos or Dogs, or any animal for that matter, therefore I will compare myself to other humans and their normal behaviors.

To be BORN with a specific sexuality would mean that you had inherited a trait or characteristic from your future generation, please explain to me which parent or grandparent, or grandparents’ grandparents your genetic trait was inherited from? (Remember sexual reproduction involves a male and female.)

You really have absolutely no idea what you're saying. It has been scientifically proven numerous times, and as I mentioned, homosexually and bisexuality has been seen in the humans closet known relative. I was speaking to someone I Know who's gay about this, and I hate to agree with him, but it seems you're just trying to continuously justify your hate.

So, if you're a scientist, and you can outwit scientific studies, then by all means continue, but if you're not, then I think it's time to give it up.
 
Sex is between a male and a female for sexual reproduction, how is a sexual dominant trait passed down if heterosexuals are not able to have offspring. (Without all the genetic tampering, naturally speaking)
 
Jughead said:
Sex is between a male and a female for sexual reproduction, how is a sexual dominant trait passed down if heterosexuals are not able to have offspring. (Without all the genetic tampering, naturally speaking)
Do you know what dormant means? They would not be homosexual, but can still pass it on.
 
Jughead said:
Sex is between a male and a female for sexual reproduction, how is a sexual dominant trait passed down if heterosexuals are not able to have offspring. (Without all the genetic tampering, naturally speaking)

Sex has always been for reproduction down the century's..fortunately for us "normals" it is now also used as a pleasurable past time and a show of love.
Genetics does not play a part in your sexuality...it is a personal preference, kind of like hating or liking marmite....It can be with you from the first moment you remember...it is a part of who you are. Like eye colour.

Whats your point exactly?
 
No, I'm not a scientist, I'm a biology student, and we had a similar discussion in our class, and it was proven by the chairman of the science department in our educational board, who has achieved his doctorate degree in biology, the study of life, and has been an educator for all his life, that your sexuality is not an inherited, or passed down, trait. Your assumption, I "hate" heterosexuals is totally incorrect and misleading, because you do not know me or my beliefs. For all you know, I could be heterosexual, homosexual, or even bisexual, but either way, I do not believe you’re born that way, it is a choice. I understand the tables seem turned on me here, because most homosexuals will contribute to this argument over heterosexuals, but I won’t back down because you don’t know the difference between a natural desirable choice and a genetically passed down trait, or otherwise referred to as heredity.
 
It is a part of who you are....i dont see anyone here has argued that it is genetic.

Only yourself it seems....when people state " i believe i was born this way" They are stating they know no different. It has always been with them
 
Jughead said:
No, I'm not a scientist, I'm a biology student, and we had a similar discussion in our class, and it was proven by the chairman of the science department in our educational board, who has achieved his doctorate degree in biology, the study of life, and has been an educator for all his life, that your sexuality is not an inherited, or passed down, trait. Your assumption, I "hate" heterosexuals is totally incorrect and misleading, because you do not know me or my beliefs. For all you know, I could be heterosexual, homosexual, or even bisexual, but either way, I do not believe you’re born that way, it is a choice. I understand the tables seem turned on me here, because most homosexuals will contribute to this argument over heterosexuals, but I won’t back down because you don’t know the difference between a natural desirable choice and a genetically passed down trait, or otherwise referred to as heredity.


I agree with you ... there is no "homosexuality" trait ... it is a choice the individual invokes from outside influences and other psychological reasoning's .. there is nothing hereditary about it and it has nothing to do with genetics .. if the study showed that people who are homosexual tend to follow a trend if their family members are/were ... well there's you influence ... not you genes...
 
I really don't care for this issue and am undicided, with God on one side and the liberal arguements on the other.

I'm not going to kill myself over equal rights protection causing polygymist marriage, though.
 
spyka said:
i couldn't care less what people get up to 'in the bedroom'. as long as all those involved are above the age of consent and have given their consent it's fine by me

agreed. but some people have a hard time keeping it in the bedroom. that makes me mad

Irviding said:
You really have absolutely no idea what you're saying. It has been scientifically proven numerous times, and as I mentioned, homosexually and bisexuality has been seen in the humans closet known relative. I was speaking to someone I Know who's gay about this, and I hate to agree with him, but it seems you're just trying to continuously justify your hate.

So, if you're a scientist, and you can outwit scientific studies, then by all means continue, but if you're not, then I think it's time to give it up.

first: do you always have to flame
second: you always talk about this evidence. just cause your gay friend says its out there doesnt mean it is. it also could be unreliable. someone recently made up that the average man thinks about sex every seven seconds. it caught fire and everyone used it in debates. then indiana university proved most men only think about it a couple time a WEEK. so make sure you can actually bring out some hard evidence from a reliable source before flaming
 
agreed. but some people have a hard time keeping it in the bedroom. that makes me mad
Is this aimed at all sexes? Not only gays?

first: do you always have to flame
second: you always talk about this evidence. just cause your gay friend says its out there doesnt mean it is. it also could be unreliable. someone recently made up that the average man thinks about sex every seven seconds. it caught fire and everyone used it in debates. then indiana university proved most men only think about it a couple time a WEEK. so make sure you can actually bring out some hard evidence from a reliable source before flaming

I dont see any flaming? bar from your post....It seems you are after a reaction after all?.
All the evidence in the world will not give you the answers to homosexuality...and btw, most percentages are guessed :yes:
 
wednesday said:
agreed. but some people have a hard time keeping it in the bedroom. that makes me mad
Is this aimed at all sexes? Not only gays?

first: do you always have to flame
second: you always talk about this evidence. just cause your gay friend says its out there doesnt mean it is. it also could be unreliable. someone recently made up that the average man thinks about sex every seven seconds. it caught fire and everyone used it in debates. then indiana university proved most men only think about it a couple time a WEEK. so make sure you can actually bring out some hard evidence from a reliable source before flaming

I dont see any flaming? bar from your post....It seems you are after a reaction after all?.
All the evidence in the world will not give you the answers to homosexuality...and btw, most percentages are guessed :yes:

it is aimed at all sexes. no not a reaction. its a fact. if you make a statement you need evidence more sufficient than your gay friend told you so. most percentages are taken after surveying thousands of people and counting answers. thats far from a guess
 
A fact?.....really?.Can you provide evidence to proove your statement?
🙂
P.S Its a well known "fact" that surveys are not reliable....sorry
 
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