A day off because they didn't like election results?

[Katrina]

Some universities have given students a day off for mental health, because they didn't like the results of the election and Trump winning.

Do you see a problem with this? Will they be prepared for let downs in the future at their jobs? I mean, work has to go on whether you're fit for it or not. Take too many days off and you'll get fired.

I really think that these ADULTS are being coddled way too much and keeping them incapacitated. Help them to cope in other ways, but still have them continue day to day tasks because that will get them in the habit of accepting things that they don't agree with instead of melting down and needing to be babied.

Milk and cookies? Really???

 

[Felly]

I really think that these ADULTS are being coddled way too much and keeping them incapacitated. Help them to cope in other ways, but still have them continue day to day tasks because that will get them in the habit of accepting things that they don't agree with instead of melting down and needing to be babied.

Milk and cookies? Really???

👏 This!!!! 👏

Don't get me wrong, I am a believer in taking care of yourself and your mental health. You cannot work if you're not taking care of yourself, but in the same vein, life still goes on. Work still gets done. If you call out, the work still has to be done, whether by you or by someone else. If something is truly impacting your life to the point where you cannot go to work (or school), you absolutely need to find a way to address it. How that is may look different for each individual person, but it should be addressed.

My biggest issue with this generation is how lightly you have to tread with them and how the littlest thing can be blown up. I work with people who I'll have a simple coaching conversation with, and days later, I'll hear "Felly yelled at me!!!" I didn't yell. I told you that you were doing a task incorrectly or that you simply weren't doing a task or some other issue, and I addressed the issue, as I'm expected to do as a leader so that you can learn to do it correctly. You'll get that with any employer, not just in retail. I had an associate who would be dramatic if a customer "yelled" at her. (One evening, she said a customer "yelled" at her and she needed a break, but I was close enough to hear yelling and heard nothing. Also magically didn't need the break as soon as I stopped what I was doing and got up there to relieve her, which was an annoyance in and of itself.) I don't think customers should be yelling at store employees to begin with, though that's a conversation for probably a different topic, but I also feel like some employees blow it out of proportion because they take it to a point where they essentially shut down and need to be almost babied. And don't even get me started on call outs for the most minor and insignificant things or for just showing up late on a regular basis. It's absolutely wild to me. I tell my people "shit happens, and I get it. I've worked your position before, been there done that. But there's a difference between shit happens one day and shit happening every day." You have to figure it out, and while I don't mind helping with that to the best of my ability and within reason, you also have to take initiative and figure it out yourself too.

I honestly feel like this generation is just wildly unprepared for the real world. I don't think anyone truly is (lord knows I wasn't lol, and I had to do a lot of growing up real quick after my dad passed and that was when I was almost 24), but I don't know, I guess this generation just wasn't taught any sort of work ethic or coping skills for difficult situations or seeing different viewpoints or anything like that.

I'm not a Trump fan, so of course, I didn't vote for him. Not thrilled with the election results, but while I wasn't necessarily happy with them, I still went to work the next day. I still carried on with my life. If you truly dislike something and want to see change in the world, then work towards it. Do what you can to make an impact and get the results you want to see. It's not going to happen though if you just complain about it or just do nothing. By all means, complain and take a breather if you must, but change doesn't happen just by doing those things.

 

[fredy377]

Sometimes individuals must take time off, more so when they go through difficult trial in their day to day lives. As you said in any case life does not stand still for a person to be prepared and then proceed ahead but getting through is indeed a part of growing up. Perhaps there’s a way to help people without taking away their accountability completely.

 

[Ravenfreak]

See the problem isn't the fact that Trump won per say, the problem is trans people are afraid that we're going to lose access to our healthcare and lots of people are afraid of the future with the GOP having full control to the point where it's affecting their mental health. It's not simply because they're upset that it was Trump that won, there's a much bigger picture here and honestly I don't think Trump supporters fully grasp the reason why so many are upset, they will tell us to "get over it" but when sh*t hits the fan and people lose access to healthcare then we'll be saying "we told you so but you didn't want to listen." But since it doesn't directly affect them, they probably still won't understand or care because they care more about saving money than a trans child taking their own life because they lost access to life saving mental health care thanks to Project 2025 and Agenda 47. (Yes that's an extreme example, but it's one that can and will become a reality for many young trans people who will lose access to the therapy they need and help they need in states banning gender affirming care for minors because politicians won't butt out of issues that they don't understand. Doctors know what they're doing, let them take care of things. Keep it between the parents/guardians and children. Being trans isn't something that's taught, hatred and bigotry is.) I admit I took off work the day after the election when he first was elected, I was scared and unsure of the future then and this was when I first came out so I wasn't even on testosterone yet. We talk about people taking off work, or even school when they're physically sick, taking off work when you're not mentally doing well is absolutely fine and shouldn't be mocked. No one is "pandering" to anyone here, the future is looking bleak for the LGBTQ community and we have every right to take mental health days to help us try to feel a little better. At the end of the day, if the GOP didn't target trans people like they have been then people wouldn't be as afraid of the future.

 

[Katrina]

See the problem isn't the fact that Trump won per say, the problem is trans people are afraid that we're going to lose access to our healthcare and lots of people are afraid of the future with the GOP having full control to the point where it's affecting their mental health. It's not simply because they're upset that it was Trump that won, there's a much bigger picture here and honestly I don't think Trump supporters fully grasp the reason why so many are upset, they will tell us to "get over it" but when sh*t hits the fan and people lose access to healthcare then we'll be saying "we told you so but you didn't want to listen." But since it doesn't directly affect them, they probably still won't understand or care because they care more about saving money than a trans child taking their own life because they lost access to life saving mental health care thanks to Project 2025 and Agenda 47. (Yes that's an extreme example, but it's one that can and will become a reality for many young trans people who will lose access to the therapy they need and help they need in states banning gender affirming care for minors because politicians won't butt out of issues that they don't understand. Doctors know what they're doing, let them take care of things. Keep it between the parents/guardians and children. Being trans isn't something that's taught, hatred and bigotry is.) I admit I took off work the day after the election when he first was elected, I was scared and unsure of the future then and this was when I first came out so I wasn't even on testosterone yet. We talk about people taking off work, or even school when they're physically sick, taking off work when you're not mentally doing well is absolutely fine and shouldn't be mocked. No one is "pandering" to anyone here, the future is looking bleak for the LGBTQ community and we have every right to take mental health days to help us try to feel a little better. At the end of the day, if the GOP didn't target trans people like they have been then people wouldn't be as afraid of the future.

Did you read my OP? I was talking about how the universities chose to give students off, not people taking personal days because of their mental health.

When a system decides to baby grown adults, that's what they'll be getting, grown babies who expect their future employers to give them days off because a political opponent won? That's insane and unprofessional.

Edited to add that I was a part of interviews for an Admin position in the company I used to work for. One of the questions that applicants were asked was, "How do you handle stress?"

I can't imagine someone replying that at their university they were taught that they could go into a corner to color and drink milk and eat cookies as a way of handling stress...and expect to get hired.

 

[zappaDPJ]

I honestly feel like this generation is just wildly unprepared for the real world.

I agree, there needs to be a better balance between 'taking it on the chin' and having time away because of hurt feelings.

 

[Al]

Funny, isn't it. Needing to take a day off as they did not like the election result. They should have done the only sensible thing possible, and waited until January to storm the capitol and attempt to overthrow the democratically elected government. That's a much more measured and reasonable response.

 

[Katrina]

Funny, isn't it. Needing to take a day off as they did not like the election result. They should have done the only sensible thing possible, and waited until January to storm the capitol and attempt to overthrow the democratically elected government. That's a much more measured and reasonable response.

Universities didn't encourage that and that's the focus of this thread, now isn't it?

The purpose of going to a college/university is to get an education to become employable. Which person would a company prefer to hire, the one who has learned how to handle stress enough that they can continue to be a functioning employee or the one who has to have cookies and milk and not be able to finish his responsibilities at work?

Fear is power and the liberal media has gained power by making people so fearful they can no longer function as adults. At Thanksgiving dinner, a lady's son was so fearful he wouldn't be getting his ramen noodles anymore because of Trump's tariffs. That fear has overtaken him so much that he is having trouble functioning. You can thank the liberal media for that type of nonsense because all anyone has heard from that side is how Trump is a dictator, that he's Hitler, etc... yet we saw Biden having a nice chat with Trump at the White House. Would anyone really welcome Hitler like that? It's politics. It's ridiculous.

Teach the students how to deal with fear. How to deal with stress. Encourage more mental health treatment. But cookies and milk C'mon. I wouldn't hire that person.

 

[Al]

The ‘focus’ of the thread was in the title - it was the election result. In your first paragraph you reference Agent Orange. The focus of threads changes as the conversation progresses. That’s the nature of discussion forums. If you require more information on what discussion forums are, I can recommend this link.

You were reacting negatively to people being disappointed and upset about a convicted felon who disrespects women, hates minorities, champions racism, has the IQ of a turnip, has been bankrupted many times, has the cognitive ability of a wet flannel, being elected to the highest office in the land. I was merely drawing a comparison between the reaction of the ‘left’ and the ‘right’ to the vote not going their way. University students - who are typically more intelligent and articulate than your typical redneck Christian fundamentalist - had a day off. On January 6th 2021, Trump supporters attacked the Capitol building attempting to subvert the lawful transition of power. The comparison, as it perhaps requires further explanation, is between a peaceful response and a militant response. The irony is that you heavily criticise students but can’t take criticism levied at the faction you throw your support behind. It’s a bit sad really.

It’s also standard behaviour from you. When you posted your thread purportedly advertising content on your sky fairy forum, you laughably and embarrassingly claimed it was ‘just’ an advert for such content. However your response to different responses was clear. Those who support the tiny-handed, wotsit-faced, sex-criminal were free to reference their support. Those who criticised Mrs. Putin were ‘reminded’ it was ‘just’ an advert. Like you think the members here are stupid.

We are not. We see through you.

Joseph de Maistre, a French philosopher, said:

“Every nation gets the government it deserves.”

You got yours. Enjoy.

 

[Katrina]

The ‘focus’ of the thread was in the title - it was the election result. In your first paragraph you reference Agent Orange. The focus of threads changes as the conversation progresses. That’s the nature of discussion forums. If you require more information on what discussion forums are, I can recommend this link.

You were reacting negatively to people being disappointed and upset about a convicted felon who disrespects women, hates minorities, champions racism, has the IQ of a turnip, has been bankrupted many times, has the cognitive ability of a wet flannel, being elected to the highest office in the land. I was merely drawing a comparison between the reaction of the ‘left’ and the ‘right’ to the vote not going their way. University students - who are typically more intelligent and articulate than your typical redneck Christian fundamentalist - had a day off. On January 6th 2021, Trump supporters attacked the Capitol building attempting to subvert the lawful transition of power. The comparison, as it perhaps requires further explanation, is between a peaceful response and a militant response. The irony is that you heavily criticise students but can’t take criticism levied at the faction you throw your support behind. It’s a bit sad really.

It’s also standard behaviour from you. When you posted your thread purportedly advertising content on your sky fairy forum, you laughably and embarrassingly claimed it was ‘just’ an advert for such content. However your response to different responses was clear. Those who support the tiny-handed, wotsit-faced, sex-criminal were free to reference their support. Those who criticised Mrs. Putin were ‘reminded’ it was ‘just’ an advert. Like you think the members here are stupid.

We are not. We see through you.

Joseph de Maistre, a French philosopher, said:

“Every nation gets the government it deserves.”

You got yours. Enjoy.

My reaction was to the Universities...as in the first statement of my OP

Some universities have given students a day off for mental health, because they didn't like the results of the election and Trump winning.

When people only look at a title, they really do the entire forum a disservice, and it happens frequently.

Please don't go off on tangents bringing up other threads. Back to the point, which is that Universities gave students off and they're not teaching their students how to proceed to be productive members of society. Instead, they coddle them, which is not what a full functioning business is expected to do. So those students won't be able to get fulfilling jobs, or those that will pay off their expensive student loans. Then they'll go and cry that the government needs to pay, which is we, the people through our taxes.

Businesses are going to have some higher standards from employees than what some of those universities are training their students to be. They charge way too much for those poor results.

 

[Al]

So those students won't be able to get fulfilling jobs, or those that will pay off their expensive student loans. Then they'll go and cry that the government needs to pay, which is we, the people through our taxes.

You're hilarious.

 

[Allan]

I have people at work that I directly supervise that need days off to decompress or they say. I don't refuse them, but I don't understand why, just a different generation and something we have to adapt to. I can't really say anything, if I do that's a trip to HR.

 

[Katrina]

I have people at work that I directly supervise that need days off to decompress or they say. I don't refuse them, but I don't understand why, just a different generation and something we have to adapt to. I can't really say anything, if I do that's a trip to HR.

That's different than a university declaring that a day should be given because their students' side didn't win, right?

 

[Allan]

I looked at it kind of the same thing, but on a completely different and larger scale.