Abortion

Of course. I can turn on my local news or even the national news and find a few hundred of these cases that happen every few months or so. You're totally right. HOWEVER, about 10-15 thousand babies are born daily in the US. So I think that trumps your argument into a smaller than 1 percent amount of babies being abandoned.
That' irrelevant. The same social problem applies to live babies as does o babies who aren't born yet. It's an issue of a mother's right to give up on a child by killing it.

I'm not contradicting myself at all. Stop making stupid accusations.

It sounds like a nice thing, but you have no god damn right to tell a woman what to do with her body. Let me repeat myself, you have no god damn right to tell a woman what to do with her body. Again. You have no god damn right to tell a woman what to do with her body. Good? Or shall I repeat myself? One last time. You have no god damn right to tell a woman what to do with her body.
I proposed it here because we run out of options. The baby is born, the mother does not want it, so that is the only option to do other than giving it to a family member. I'm not contradicting anything. Your attempts to make my statements invalid are laughable.
What do you say to this: "A child is a wretched spawn comprised of cells formed inside the body of a woman. This piece of blood vessels and cells was formed of her body and is Dependant on her for food and water. It is born and 2 years old. she has the right to kill it, because it is just a collection of cells spawned from her" I would call that argument sick. Would you?

Same applies. I don't support abortions past 6 months. I thought I said this already.
Why? Supposedly, it's the mother's right to not have a child.

I also suggest you wake up. If abortion is made illegal, which it never will be because my generation of accepting and non christian fundamentalists will soon be in charge, you will be hearing about the spike of coat hanger abortions. Just know, you will have been a part of that. You will be able to tell your grand children about how you were the reason for that baby being ripped out of a womb in a dirty back alley and killed. Be proud.
Your argument says that the difference is irrelevant.

It's not murder when it can't live without the support of its mother. It is a parasite. It is nothing. Get it through your head.
That is what that eco-nazi who stormed the Discovery Channel HQ said. He said that babies are parasites to the green earth.
 
Kirisute Gomen said:
Irviding said:
Cosmic said:
Let's say that a child is already born and a mother is sick of it. what does she do?
That's a very very rare thing.
My mother was "sick of me" when I started asking for money and a car.

My mother was sick of me when I was born. 😀
I've been constantly told to run away from home. XD
Good times. 🙂
 
Cosmic said:
That' irrelevant. The same social problem applies to live babies as does o babies who aren't born yet. It's an issue of a mother's right to give up on a child by killing it.
See but what you don't understand is it's not being 'killed'. It is not being killed at all. It is a parasite living off of a mother's body. For the 50th time. And your entire post about how women dump babies is irrelevant. I proved you wrong there and instead of arguing it further, you just move onto something else. Whatever.


What do you say to this: "A child is a wretched spawn comprised of cells formed inside the body of a woman. This piece of blood vessels and cells was formed of her body and is Dependant on her for food and water. It is born and 2 years old. she has the right to kill it, because it is just a collection of cells spawned from her" I would call that argument sick. Would you?
I say that's an incorrect statement and I agree, that's a sick argument. But it's not AT ALL what I'm arguing about, it's just your stupid way of spinning it to attempt to get support for yourself.

A 2 year old does not just depend on his/her mother for water and food. The father can feed it, the mother, of course, can feed it, a baby sitter can feed it, a grandmother can, a grandfather, a sister, a brother, a doctor, a garbage man, whoever you want. When it is a fetus inside a womb, no one can take care of it and it cannot survive without leaching off of the mother's body.

Why? Supposedly, it's the mother's right to not have a child.
Up and until the child can fend for itself and is pretty much a human being which can live on its own without leeching off of the mother. There have been cases of surviving babies in 5 month area but just my personal opinion is 6 months. As I said, some more extreme supporters of abortion (shockingly enough to you, that is not me) support it right up until the day before it's born, I don't. I believe that around the 6 month period is when the thing is basically alive and I just can't imagine supporting a doctor aborting a 6 month pregnant woman's baby which can fend for itself out of the womb.

Your argument says that the difference is irrelevant.
Where? You don't speak for my argument, I do. I support the humane aborting of fetuses. That doesn't include coathangers. I've been over this numerous times.

]That is what that eco-nazi who stormed the Discovery Channel HQ said. He said that babies are parasites to the green earth.
Thank you for bringing up such a relevant point.
 
You like to use the word "leech" and "parasite", don't you? You were once a leech and a parasite too. If your mother told you she considered aborting you you would probably despise abortion. Who wouldn't? I guess you can say that you wouldn't, but it'd be foolish.
 
Cosmic said:
You like to use the word "leech" and "parasite", don't you? You were once a leech and a parasite too. If your mother told you she considered aborting you you would probably despise abortion. Who wouldn't? I guess you can say that you wouldn't, but it'd be foolish.
Ignore my argument and take one little part out trying to get a rise out of me. Good work.

And no, I wouldn't. I'm not that selfish. If my mother wanted to abort me before I was born, so what? That's her choice.
 
Irviding said:
"WHAT IF GEORGE WASHINGTON WERE ABORTED"
Oh come on man, you know that "What if Jesus was aborted" triumphs over that 😛


(Really though, I posted that two times. For shame FP, no sunny fans here? What a bunch of downers 😛)
 
So if she wanted to kill you now, would you let her or struggle? If you just stamped approval on her killing you before you were born, how is now different?
 
Cosmic said:
So if she wanted to kill you now, would you let her or struggle? If you just stamped approval on her killing you before you were born, how is now different?
Are you kidding? I think grasping at straws has reached a new level.
 
Please address what I actually said, not your little comment. That sort of remark would not be acceptable in a real debate.
 
Cosmic said:
Please address what I actually said, not your little comment. That sort of remark would not be acceptable in a real debate.
None of your remarks here so far would be acceptable in a real debate. I have addressed every single point you've thrown at me in this topic. You carefully weed through my posts and find one thing to hit me with and ignore the rest. You don't deserve me taking the time to even answer your stupid question.
 
Irviding said:
Cosmic said:
I don't make deals with people who want to kill babies. 😱
You really have stooped down from the level of someone who was able to bring up legitimate points in this debate to someone who has not been able to rebuke anything and has just started picking little points out in order to attempt to make yourself look good. Just like Beck, Hannity, all of those other idiots.

This post you just made really consolidated your true stupidity.
You are dodging my question. I think it's because you have no answer.
 
Cosmic said:
Irviding said:
Cosmic said:
I don't make deals with people who want to kill babies. 😱
You really have stooped down from the level of someone who was able to bring up legitimate points in this debate to someone who has not been able to rebuke anything and has just started picking little points out in order to attempt to make yourself look good. Just like Beck, Hannity, all of those other idiots.

This post you just made really consolidated your true stupidity.
You are dodging my question. I think it's because you have no answer.
I have an answer. I'm just putting my foot down. You always dodge my questions, ignore my statements, and bullshit your way out of fully rebuking my points. I'm just giving you a taste of your own medicine.
 
chillpill.webp

:rofl:

care to answer my question and put your opinions about me aside?
 
I think it really has to do with the parents of the baby mostly up to the girl because after all it is living inside of her! but if u have one or not is really up to the life you live if you cant handle it because your to young then you shouldn't have sex! if the guys parents and family would kick him out with no where to live and neither of you have jobs then maybe it might be ok. its really how you feel about it! im not for it but sometimes its all you can do! sometimes you hear of people get 2 or more and i think to myself how can you bring yourself to do that more then once and not even cause! My ex boyfriend said that the baby is is not living yet but i fell that it is cause if you really think about it its growing inside it has to be living in some way!
 
Cosmic said:
:rofl:

care to answer my question and put your opinions about me aside?
No. It has nothing to do with my opinions of you. It has to do with your constant dodging of all the questions I ask you. You can post stupid pictures all you want in order to make yourself look like the victim here. I'll say it again, all you've proven you can do in this topic is take little snippets out of whatever I say and attack a few words out of my gigantic posts and blow off the rest of it. I don't see why I have any obligation to answer your question. If you'd prefer, I will answer it the way you answer my questions. Here:

how is now different?
Well, since I was born, a lot of different things have been invented. Take the advances in the computer and internet. When I was born, a computer was not at all a common household item. Only very few people had them, and even back then, they were very different. A top of the line fun game then is a lot different from what we have now in terms of top of the line games. We also had different political leadership then. Bill Clinton was the President.

Question answered just the way you answer my questions.


To erica, the same about how it is living in some way can be said about viruses or bacteria in the human body.
 
Stop whining about me and my arguments. I suggest you stop complaining and actually discuss the real issue, instead of flaming me. I don't give a darn what you think in regards to what I chose to respond to in your posts. I was, for the most part, ignoring the parts you already said a thousand million times.
 
Cosmic said:
Stop whining about me and my arguments. I suggest you stop complaining and actually discuss the real issue, instead of flaming me. I don't give a darn what you think in regards to what I chose to respond to in your posts. I was, for the most part, ignoring the parts you already said a thousand million times.
How about you discuss the real issue when I post them? You blow off everything I say except for a small bit so what the hell is the point in me bothering anymore with you?
 
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