Abortion
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NBK*Twitch
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Oh boy I see this one getting many posts....
My view in adoption is it should be a womens choice.. to an extent..
After the babies heart begins to beat(5-6 weeks if I am not mistaken) abortion should not be allowed,except for emergency life or death situations.
My view in adoption is it should be a womens choice.. to an extent..
After the babies heart begins to beat(5-6 weeks if I am not mistaken) abortion should not be allowed,except for emergency life or death situations.
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Many women don't even know they're pregnant until about eight weeks.NBK*Twitch said:
I think that abortion should be the woman's choice. Forcing a woman to deliver a baby doesn't sound like something that should happen in a free society.
NBK*Twitch
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Snobothehohoho said:
I can't speak for all women on this,but from the ones I know they pretty knew they were pregnant quite early (4-5 weeks)
Im against it, unless she is a rape victim, the mother may die or in extreme cases the baby will be serverly disabled. Other than that there is no excuse for you to get rid of it. There is a ample amount of protection out there. If you dont want a child, take the pill/wear a condom.
Plus I dont believe it's just the womans choice in this case, I would also like to think the father should have say in it. Yes it's in her body, but he supplied the sperm. It takes two to tango after all.
Plus I dont believe it's just the womans choice in this case, I would also like to think the father should have say in it. Yes it's in her body, but he supplied the sperm. It takes two to tango after all.
Watch Me Sink
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Men's rights over children (born or unborn) is a joke. Women usually (not all the time, but usually) get custody over children and men get no say in what happens to an unborn child that they father. Insane.Van1lla ™ said:
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No birth control method is one hundred percent effective except for abstinence.Van1lla ™ said:
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Snobothehohoho said:
Those together (using your stats) would be 99.97% effective. High, but nothing is 100% like Snobo said.Van1lla ™ said:
No birth control is 100% thats why I have a 27 year old son and 20 year old twins
I know in the UK abortion is available up till 25 weeks which I think is wrong as some woman who go into early labor the baby has lived even when born at 24 weeks
If abortion is allowed it should be done in cases of rape, or if the woman life or death situations and not as a form of birth control
I know in the UK abortion is available up till 25 weeks which I think is wrong as some woman who go into early labor the baby has lived even when born at 24 weeks
If abortion is allowed it should be done in cases of rape, or if the woman life or death situations and not as a form of birth control
Thought this was an important story on the matter.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... cidal.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... cidal.html
WatchmanDKCJ
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I am strongly pro-life. For emergency situations, maybe, it would be ok. But when the mother doesn't want the baby, then no. If she doesn't want him/her, then there are orphanages. And I'm not even saying that is right. I believe abortion is murder, and child abuse. Just remember one thing when deciding: you could have been aborted, too.
This is a hard subject to cover. I honestly think people don't really include the "facts" or all the factors that can play into a situation that involves abortion. I don't have a stance on it; I personally think it all depends on the situation.
e.g: what is someone was raped? what if it was consensual?
e.g: what is someone was raped? what if it was consensual?
Woman's body, woman's choice. No birth control is 100% effective. Accidents happen. Forcing a woman to go through an unwanted pregnancy is more likely to harm her than help her (especially her mental health). Her rights are more important than that of a zygote, embryo or foetus. She can feel and suffer far greater than it can, and it is in essence a parasite as it feeds off her body draining her hence why she has to make sure she has enough nutrients for two.
Plus, there are enough children in this world waiting for adoption. We don't need to add more. And illegalising abortion leads to backstreet abortions which is far more dangerous. Do the zealots really want that to happen?
Also, anti-abortionists always care about the zygote (which cannot feel a thing - just a bunch of cells), foetus, and embryo only when it's inside the womb. Once it's born they don't care. They aren't the ones taking it on as adoptive parents. They just let the orphanages and state deal with. Shows how silly these people are. They should put their money where their mouth is and adopt all those babies they care so much about before birth.
Lastly, a born non human animal feels and can suffer more than any unborn human, are anti-abortionists going to protest for the rights of animals not to die or suffer? Doubt it. Double standards as always when the 'good book' is involved or any sort of 'defenceless, innocent...' thing.<br /><br />-- 24 Mar 2013, 02:26 --<br /><br />
Your logic makes no sense. If we had been aborted, we wouldn't know any different as we would not be alive.
By the way, most abortion happen within the first few weeks or so. Pain perception is around 24 weeks onwards. Murder applies only to the born. Not the unborn. Otherwise all women who have an abortion would be in jail for murder. As it is, in countries where abortion is illegal, a woman is not charged with murder even if she has one.
Plus, there are enough children in this world waiting for adoption. We don't need to add more. And illegalising abortion leads to backstreet abortions which is far more dangerous. Do the zealots really want that to happen?
Also, anti-abortionists always care about the zygote (which cannot feel a thing - just a bunch of cells), foetus, and embryo only when it's inside the womb. Once it's born they don't care. They aren't the ones taking it on as adoptive parents. They just let the orphanages and state deal with. Shows how silly these people are. They should put their money where their mouth is and adopt all those babies they care so much about before birth.
Lastly, a born non human animal feels and can suffer more than any unborn human, are anti-abortionists going to protest for the rights of animals not to die or suffer? Doubt it. Double standards as always when the 'good book' is involved or any sort of 'defenceless, innocent...' thing.<br /><br />-- 24 Mar 2013, 02:26 --<br /><br />
WatchmanDKCJ said:
Your logic makes no sense. If we had been aborted, we wouldn't know any different as we would not be alive.
By the way, most abortion happen within the first few weeks or so. Pain perception is around 24 weeks onwards. Murder applies only to the born. Not the unborn. Otherwise all women who have an abortion would be in jail for murder. As it is, in countries where abortion is illegal, a woman is not charged with murder even if she has one.
I am forever against abortion.
It's all well and good to say that women should "have a choice". But what of the unborn life who can not yet voice his or her opinion on the matter? Abortion is essentially playing God and terminating a possibly lengthy and worthwhile life before it has even begun.
If you are faced with an unwanted pregnancy through your own mistakes, the least you can do is see it through to birth and give the child up for adoption.
This is coming from a young father.
It's all well and good to say that women should "have a choice". But what of the unborn life who can not yet voice his or her opinion on the matter? Abortion is essentially playing God and terminating a possibly lengthy and worthwhile life before it has even begun.
If you are faced with an unwanted pregnancy through your own mistakes, the least you can do is see it through to birth and give the child up for adoption.
This is coming from a young father.
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... and contribute to an overly crowded adoption system that is clearly discriminatory based on race (among other things)?Jin Sane said:
Van1lla ™ said:
I had a friend who had a baby, however she was on the pill and her partner used a condom.. How's that for a high percentage.
The only reason she didn't have an abortion (she's a teenager) was because obviously she was meant to have the baby, otherwise the pill and condom would've worked.
As for the topic, I believe it should be up to the parents, I do not however agree with a woman making the choice without the father's consent.
Two exceptions:
1. Rape.
2. If the baby has a problem (such as down-syndrome or as such) and the only reason I say this is because it's not fair on the child to be brought into such a cruel world where being somewhat different is deemed as bad.
Women 18 + Should not abort their future son or daughter, they should take full responsibility after engaging in sexual acts no matter what the reason is. Teenagers 13 - 17 of age, and Rape victims in the other hand should have abortion as an option available in the US in every state no matter what besides their victims right.
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