Abortion

BlueDot said:
Women 18 + Should not abort their future son or daughter, they should take full responsibility after engaging in sexual acts no matter what the reason is. Teenagers 13 - 17 of age, and Rape victims in the other hand should have abortion as an option available in the US in every state no matter what besides their victims right.

I don't think that's very fair.. Why should a certain age group be allowed to do something whereas another one is not entitled to the same right?

If you're going to be such a negative influence as such, you might as well say anyone under 18 shouldn't have sex, and I'm sure you would've lost your virginity prior to turning 18.
 
I'm 100% for abortion. Accidents happen, condoms aren't fool proof. There are the drunken nights and then there's also rape. I feel all 3 of these can result in an abortion if the mother wishes.
 
wow tough question

i really never thought about this....

i mean, i think peopel should have the right to choose this for themselves
and nobody should stop them

but on the other hand..... taking away a life like that
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SD. said:
wow tough question

i really never thought about this....

i mean, i think peopel should have the right to choose this for themselves
and nobody should stop them

but on the other hand..... taking away a life like that
😕

Most abortions occur early in pregnancy. The life you claim to have been taken doesn't actually exist. It's not really a life, is it? When it's just a mass of cellular activity at the point of termination. The thing can't even feel pain till past 24 weeks. A flea feels more than anything that is regularly aborted does.
 
I'm for abortion, because there way too many people in this world. Cut the population in half then I may be Pro-life.
 
darkotakusouls said:
I'm for abortion, because there way too many people in this world. Cut the population in half then I may be Pro-life.

If that's your only reason, then great, let's start with you.

With an attitude like that, I'm sure not many people would notice..
 
Snobothehobo said:
... and contribute to an overly crowded adoption system ...
Why do you say the adoption system is over crowded? In Ireland there are more people looking for adoption than there are children available for adoption, obviously it could be different in other countries.

Snobothehobo said:
... that is clearly discriminatory based on race (among other things)?
Can you please also explain what you mean by that a little more?

I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just that what you say would not be true for Ireland and I'm interested to hear what the situation is like where you are.
 
this is a tough one for me im against it but if health reasons and rape come into play then im all for it.
 
Well, from where I sit, abortion is murder!... and murder is sin! There are no if's or and's about it... although ALL SINS are forgiven when there is true repentance before God, and the person turns away from such sin (s).... but there is not much to be said, when a woman has gotten pregnant two or more times, and each time has had an abortions.

I think many women are having abortions not because she has been raped, or due to a sickness... but many are having abortions because the woman (1) she got caught, (2) she is self-centered and does not care to take responsibility for her behavior or the caring for of a child, (3) and because she doesn't care about her own body as much as she so-claims. There are also many women who are married who get caught, and must have an abortion, because she is in an adulterous relationship outside of her marriage, and to cover this up, she goes out and gets an abortion. Abortions (sin) carrys many serious consequences for the woman that she will sooner or later suffer and regret emotionally, mentally, physically,and spiritually.

I think its high time, that we in society stop being deceived and stop deceiving others about the wages (price of sin), and proper names for sin, and start calling sin what it is as being sin, and abortion what it is, which is murder... that is, if we expect to overcome many of our life problems that we bring upon ourselves. JUST SAY NO TO SEX IF YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO THE PERSON!

There are consequences for evil works done t, and in our bodies, and rewards for good works done to, and in our bodies. Sure, everyone has a choice to do as she/he pleases with their own bodies, but one must first consider the consequences or rewards, and decide which they would rather receive and suffer.

Before a woman lies down with a men who is NOT HER HUSBAND... she should be more thoughtful of her ownself as a person, and consider the consequences of what she is doing BEFORE SHE SLEEPS with a man who is NOT her husband. There are more serious risk than getting pregnant, and then having an abortion... there are many health risks to consider, and no form of birth control or protection will protect either the man or woman from such diseases that kill...

If its the woman's choice to do as she pleases with her body, then the first choice she should make is to herself, and not have sex outside of her marriage and/or in a relationship unless she IS married, then she will not have to worrying about having an abortion if she should get pregnant... just my thoughts in :heart:
 
I agree with NBK. I'f its heart isn't thumping. There is not life yet. Therefore not making it murder, nor taking a life like allot of people say it is. I'm with abortion.
 
Evangelist said:
then she will not have to worrying about having an abortion if she should get pregnant...
You know sometimes birth control doesn't work, so what your saying is non-married couples will go to hell, and married couples MUST HAVE KIDS BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR DESTINY! DON'T ARGUE WITH ME BECAUSE GOD TOLD ME!

At least that's what I read.
 
TheTalkingSeed said:
I agree with NBK. I'f its heart isn't thumping. There is not life yet. Therefore not making it murder, nor taking a life like allot of people say it is. I'm with abortion.

Well, its ok to believe in having an abortion, its ok to believe in whatever suit a person's fancy and makes a person feel good... those are life choices we make... but since you do not believe that life begans at conception... if at conception you consider this as not having life, then one must be able to explain how it is possible for dead sperm to unite with dead eggs, and then form a living being?

So think about this as well... If life does not begin at conception, and this be so, Then the laws of double murder must be reconsidered in the courts when a man is charged with murdering a pregnant woman and her baby when she only three months pregnant... what say you ?<br /><br />-- 03 Jun 2013, 23:54 --<br /><br />
death180 said:
Evangelist said:
then she will not have to worrying about having an abortion if she should get pregnant...
You know sometimes birth control doesn't work, so what your saying is non-married couples will go to hell, and married couples MUST HAVE KIDS BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR DESTINY! DON'T ARGUE WITH ME BECAUSE GOD TOLD ME!

At least that's what I read.

You're too funnee!.. heeey I ain't mad atcha! lol... Right, birth control doesn't work all the time, and this is why single people should not engage in sex outside of marriage. We call it sex in a relationship outside of marriage, but God calls it fornication, which is considered by God as sin. And to prevent such, the two should get married. No, married couples don't have to have children they don't care to have, every woman is not fit to be a good mother, nor is every man fit to be a good father. Just as every woman is not fit to be a good wife, nor is every man fit to be a good husband... so its best to stay single and learn how to control your members... until such time you get married. I think its called self-control-self discipline.

And the reason fornication is considered a sin is, because God created the man and woman to be joined together in the flesh as ONE in spirit as husband and wife... if a man/woman sleeps with someone to whom they are not married, they become one, and believe it or not, this is why some of you men can't get rid of women chasing after you with whom your have slept with... no matter how many times you have told the women you are not into her that way (marriage) because the joining of the two of you together as sexual partners made you as one in spirit and in the physical.

No, I'm not saying married couples go to heaven and single couples go to hell. I'm saying, that if a woman get pregnant while she is married chances are she will not have an abortion, the baby will be someone she and her husband will enjoy. Whereas a single man/woman having sex outside of marriage are not trying to have a baby, but are satisfying the flesh and because God says fornication is sin, things happen as consequences.

Many woman also get pregnant on purpose, to trap the man into marrying her, and when this doesn't work, she will goes get an abortion. One sin covering up another sin ain't working either... it just gets worse.
 
Evangelist said:
TheTalkingSeed said:
I agree with NBK. I'f its heart isn't thumping. There is not life yet. Therefore not making it murder, nor taking a life like allot of people say it is. I'm with abortion.

Well, its ok to believe in having an abortion, its ok to believe in whatever suit a person's fancy and makes a person feel good... those are life choices we make... but since you do not believe that life begans at conception... if at conception you consider this as not having life, then one must be able to explain how it is possible for dead sperm to unite with dead eggs, and then form a living being?

So think about this as well... If life does not begin at conception, and this be so, Then the laws of double murder must be reconsidered in the courts when a man is charged with murdering a pregnant woman and her baby when she only three months pregnant... what say you ?

-- 03 Jun 2013, 23:54 --

death180 said:
Evangelist said:
then she will not have to worrying about having an abortion if she should get pregnant...
You know sometimes birth control doesn't work, so what your saying is non-married couples will go to hell, and married couples MUST HAVE KIDS BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR DESTINY! DON'T ARGUE WITH ME BECAUSE GOD TOLD ME!

At least that's what I read.

You're too funnee!.. heeey I ain't mad atcha! lol... Right, birth control doesn't work all the time, and this is why single people should not engage in sex outside of marriage. We call it sex in a relationship outside of marriage, but God calls it fornication, which is considered by God as sin. And to prevent such, the two should get married. No, married couples don't have to have children they don't care to have, every woman is not fit to be a good mother, nor is every man fit to be a good father. Just as every woman is not fit to be a good wife, nor is every man fit to be a good husband... so its best to stay single and learn how to control your members... until such time you get married. I think its called self-control-self discipline.

And the reason fornication is considered a sin is, because God created the man and woman to be joined together in the flesh as ONE in spirit as husband and wife... if a man/woman sleeps with someone to whom they are not married, they become one, and believe it or not, this is why some of you men can't get rid of women chasing after you with whom your have slept with... no matter how many times you have told the women you are not into her that way (marriage) because the joining of the two of you together as sexual partners made you as one in spirit and in the physical.

No, I'm not saying married couples go to heaven and single couples go to hell. I'm saying, that if a woman get pregnant while she is married chances are she will not have an abortion, the baby will be someone she and her husband will enjoy. Whereas a single man/woman having sex outside of marriage are not trying to have a baby, but are satisfying the flesh and because God says fornication is sin, things happen as consequences.

Many woman also get pregnant on purpose, to trap the man into marrying her, and when this doesn't work, she will goes get an abortion. One sin covering up another sin ain't working either... it just gets worse.
Okay, well tell me this. Do you remember anything from when you where sperm?
 
TTS, what kind of question is this?... "Do you remember anything from when you where sperm?"

I ask of you, Do you remember anything from when you were first born into the world?... memory has nothing to do with life at conception, nor does it determine the beginning of life as God sees it at the moment of conception. BTW, Man carry the sperm (seed) which fertilizes the woman's egg and brings forth the child.

"Do you remember anything from when you where sperm?" geeezzzz, I can't remember anything that happened this morning :rofl:
 
I'm against abortion, even in cases of rape. I think that your killing a human being. Have the baby and give it for adoption, don't kill an innocent life.
 
yes i am for abortion. pregnancy may be result of an accident or even of a rape, so every woman should be entitled to choose what to do with her OWN body. if you have no resources to raise a baby with, why giving birth ? you'll deprive him of things the other children have.
 
Totally for it. Its the womans choice though but if she got pregnant accidentally then yea when it is at an early stage but later on no no.
 
Very touchy topic...

I won't judge those who abort but I could never live with myself if I had any part of a completed abortion.
 
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