Advertising Space not meeting Rules?

[warrenisfriendly]

I am a little confused as I have a promotion forum similar to here, and I don't understand as I have a few criterias before members can advertise their forums to prevent abuse.

I have a rule that states no one can advertise in the promotion section of my forums and signature and till they have 15 posts and they must link back to our forums on theirs.

But when I remove their signature has they have not made the requirements to advertise they get angry and state they will not be bothered on the site.

So my question is am I in the wrong or is the member in question, which I am not going to name, in the wrong?

Please let me know thanks?

 

[master412160]

You are to strict.

 

[iPhonefreak]

Back linking rule will kill you if you keep it. I don't kow of any that do that.

 

[Migi]

Based on experience, I have never seen any promotion/advertising forum with that kind of rule. Sometimes there is post limit, but usually it's not more than 10 posts and they can use signature any way they want (probably just limiting size of images or number or links, but not post-dependent). Especially the link back rule, that I never heard of. It's more popular for affiliation rule.

Since promotion/advertising is a crowded niche, you may want to consider to be more lenient since competition is fierce. And offering more benefits to invite more members to your forum.

Good luck!

 

[warrenisfriendly]

Back linking rule will kill you if you keep it. I don't kow of any that do that.

I hav actually noticed a few that do it, hence the reason I did have it.

Based on experience, I have never seen any promotion/advertising forum with that kind of rule. Sometimes there is post limit, but usually it's not more than 10 posts and they can use signature any way they want (probably just limiting size of images or number or links, but not post-dependent). Especially the link back rule, that I never heard of. It's more popular for affiliation rule.

Since promotion/advertising is a crowded niche, you may want to consider to be more lenient since competition is fierce. And offering more benefits to invite more members to your forum.

Good luck!

Thanks for that, I wasn't aware I was doing anything wrong, as I have mentioned I have seen some forums that have done that.
Either way, I have updated the rules now and it's now more lenient.

However just a question, what happens if said member advertises and never comes back, what do we do in that situation?

 

[Migi]

However just a question, what happens if said member advertises and never comes back, what do we do in that situation?

It's something very common that happens in promotion/advertising forum, because the point of advertising is actually to spread the words around. They are not required to be active anywhere else on the forum, although by doing so it increases their chance to be discovered by others. If you want them to be active you'll have to catch their attention, from interesting/useful services, threads/posts, resources, and awesome design. Basically give something more interesting for them to do besides advertising. That's the hard part, though, easier said than done. XD

 

[warrenisfriendly]

Fair

However just a question, what happens if said member advertises and never comes back, what do we do in that situation?

It's something very common that happens in promotion/advertising forum, because the point of advertising is actually to spread the words around. They are not required to be active anywhere else on the forum, although by doing so it increases their chance to be discovered by others. If you want them to be active you'll have to catch their attention, from interesting/useful services, threads/posts, resources, and awesome design. Basically give something more interesting for them to do besides advertising. That's the hard part, though, easier said than done. XD

Fair enough, I have just added in the announcements section of my Advertising forum, that if they are the most active user by the end of the month I'll be giving them $2 Real Money donated to their forum, and if they are the most active user in 12 Months time not only do they get $500 of our forums currency I'll be giving them $20 at the end of the year so that's a total of $44 each year to whoever is the most active at the time, that should be enticing enough I would suspect, or am I wrong there as well my friend?

That's strange because most Forums I have seen have done that, in regards to Advertising and Signature Rules and even some refuse to let you put your signature in.

 

[Migi]

Fair enough, I have just added in the announcements section of my Advertising forum, that if they are the most active user by the end of the month I'll be giving them $2 Real Money donated to their forum, and if they are the most active user in 12 Months time not only do they get $500 of our forums currency I'll be giving them $20 at the end of the year so that's a total of $44 each year to whoever is the most active at the time, that should be enticing enough I would suspect, or am I wrong there as well my friend?

That's strange because most Forums I have seen have done that, in regards to Advertising and Signature Rules and even some refuse to let you put your signature in.

Sounds good to me. It's kind of activity contest, right? I wish you good luck with that then.

Well, it's up to each webmaster's decision on how they want to limit their forums. So it's highly possible. Some may understand and respect that decision, others will complain. It's subjective. But since I've never seen any successful promotion/advertising forum with that kind of rules, there must be something wrong with those rules, haha.

 

[Saberkat]

You remove signatures with links? To strict!

I also avoid advertising places with post meeting post requirements when the site is to slow or has very few forums to post in.

 

[warrenisfriendly]

You remove signatures with links? To strict!

I also avoid advertising places with post meeting post requirements when the site is to slow or has very few forums to post in.

No that rule has changed there are no longer any signature requirements, except for the size.

But there are only 10 posts you need to make and there are a lot of posts to reply to so it's not that difficult to accomplish obviously.

 

[MrSackfist]

If your site is a forum promotion site, surely people come to your site to promote their own. I don't understand why you cut off the purpose of your own site.

If you want 15 posts, I know that php, mybb and vbulletin give you options to prevent signatures until a certain post criteria is met, simply set that up and problem solved

 

[warrenisfriendly]

If your site is a forum promotion site, surely people come to your site to promote their own. I don't understand why you cut off the purpose of your own site.

If you want 15 posts, I know that php, mybb and vbulletin give you options to prevent signatures until a certain post criteria is met, simply set that up and problem solved

Where is this phpBB mod please as I would like this to be the case, not just for signatures but for the Advertising thread also?

To answer your question why I have a 15 Post criteria before they can advertise is so Central Promotions can get some sort of activity before they promote their forum.

 

[Beverly]

Don't worry, those people are just interested in the free backlink anyway. And, they're not really on your forum to add any real content. If someone gets angry over your signature rules and threatens to leave, say 'good, leave!' and be done with them. That's really all you can do. Getting frustrated that others don't accept your rules will only lead you to bend to the will of spammers. And, unless you want your promotion forum to turn into a spam forum you need to have rules.

I have a free advertising section on my forum and get an occasional spammer who thinks it's OK to come by and spam an ad and then run off, when my rules clearly state the subforum is ONLY for active members. And, when they do, I have no problem stripping out the hyperlinks in the ads. If they come back and post comments on the other part of the forum, then I will leave up the ad. I don't mind having that rule in place as my forum is about general chat not promotion. However, most people will look at the 'promotion' title and assume it means free for all spamming. I can't say how to handle it other than to put a mod or plugin in place that prevents users from having a signature line until after a minimum of posts have been made.

 

[CyberFreak]

If your site is a forum promotion site, surely people come to your site to promote their own. I don't understand why you cut off the purpose of your own site.

If you want 15 posts, I know that php, mybb and vbulletin give you options to prevent signatures until a certain post criteria is met, simply set that up and problem solved

Where is this phpBB mod please as I would like this to be the case, not just for signatures but for the Advertising thread also?

To answer your question why I have a 15 Post criteria before they can advertise is so Central Promotions can get some sort of activity before they promote their forum.

You could use the built it newly registered user group to restrict posting permissions in the "Central Promotions" forum and restrict that group from adding a signature. Then when a user hits 15 posts, they are automatically removed from that group and can now advertise and add a signature. It is similar to what is used here to prevent users from using the PM system when they have less than 10 posts.

 

[Shawn Gossman]

I am a little confused as I have a promotion forum similar to here, and I don't understand as I have a few criterias before members can advertise their forums to prevent abuse.

I have a rule that states no one can advertise in the promotion section of my forums and signature and till they have 15 posts and they must link back to our forums on theirs.

But when I remove their signature has they have not made the requirements to advertise they get angry and state they will not be bothered on the site.

So my question is am I in the wrong or is the member in question, which I am not going to name, in the wrong?

Please let me know thanks?

The advertising and promotion forum niche is very bloated. Now don't be discourages to join in on it but you need to look at your competition and consider how they have become successful. ForumPromotion.net can easily be stricter than other promotion forums simply because they are one of the top promotion forums. More people use them than any other forum so people will have to accept changes. If your forum is not as popular, maybe you need to be more less strict.

If you drive people away from your forum because of rules, they will find a forum that doesn't share your strict rules and be active there instead. That to me is a bigger failure than having rule violations... losing people to another forum.

 

[Beverly]

I am a little confused as I have a promotion forum similar to here, and I don't understand as I have a few criterias before members can advertise their forums to prevent abuse.

I have a rule that states no one can advertise in the promotion section of my forums and signature and till they have 15 posts and they must link back to our forums on theirs.

But when I remove their signature has they have not made the requirements to advertise they get angry and state they will not be bothered on the site.

So my question is am I in the wrong or is the member in question, which I am not going to name, in the wrong?

Please let me know thanks?

The advertising and promotion forum niche is very bloated. Now don't be discourages to join in on it but you need to look at your competition and consider how they have become successful. ForumPromotion.net can easily be stricter than other promotion forums simply because they are one of the top promotion forums. More people use them than any other forum so people will have to accept changes. If your forum is not as popular, maybe you need to be more less strict.

If you drive people away from your forum because of rules, they will find a forum that doesn't share your strict rules and be active there instead. That to me is a bigger failure than having rule violations... losing people to another forum.

On a promotion forum (just like any other), your goal will be to get regular, active forum posting members; not just one time link spammers who come by drop a link and never return. If a few people get angry that their signature link was taken away after only a few posts or because they posted a few times, earned signature line and then went inactive; then so be it. The real forum members are the ones who deserve the signature line.

You can always have a special section on your forum for advertisements only. That will keep spam and ads off the rest of your forum. Just because it's a promotion forum doesn't mean there isn't other good content on other parts of the forum.