Analysts are messed up

[iPhonefreak]

Get this. Samsung is praised for selling 10M S4 phones in 28 days! It's a record for them.

But Apple selling 5M iPhone 5's in 3 days is a dissapointment stated by the same analysts

 

[Geoffrey]

They just have higher expectations for the iPhone and Apple. The iPhone is arguably the top phone, at the top of its game, and so the analysts expect more from it.

However, in this case, it sounds like they're being overly critical of Apple. The iPhone 5 was hardly a flop or failure. You don't have to like Apple to see that.

 

[iPhonefreak]

Of course, the bar is set higher then everyone else. But they seem to criticize them too much.

 

[The Visitors]

People have always been more critical toward Apple. They're set to such a high standard that it could be argued as a double standard.

Of course as of lately, it really depends on where you're reading those opinions. Companies are paid now to say, "oh look, 5 million in 3 days is bad, compared to 10 million in 1 month"

Reviews and credits are not as honest as they once were.

 

[Shadow Pose]

I agree with Geoffrey. Apple does have high expectations, including from me but not high. I enjoy it all, but 5M in 3 days is better than what Samsung sold.

 

[Sam]

Of course, the bar is set higher then everyone else. But they seem to criticize them too much.

When you invest in a stock and pay a high price relative to Apple's earnings, then you expect a higher level of growth to make up for it.

 

[Luke]

With Apple, you only have one option: the iPhone. This is why everyone is so critical is because it's the only Apple phone you can buy. You could go out and buy around 100 different Samsung phones, compared to the potential of 6ish with the iPhone.

Apple releases 1 phone a year, everything is riding on that phone. Samsung releases heaps of phones a year, so if the S4 doesn't go well, the Galaxy Note 3 can pick up on sales. There's more option with Samsung phones, which is why having 4 million Galaxy S4's sold in 4 days is great, because Samsung still have cheaper phones on the market which people will buy.

With Apple, there's no option. You can only get an iPhone. With Samsung you could get a Note, Galaxy phone etc. That is why people are tough on Apple, because unlike Samsung, they are only releasing one phone a year.

 

[iPhonefreak]

With Apple, you only have one option: the iPhone. This is why everyone is so critical is because it's the only Apple phone you can buy. You could go out and buy around 100 different Samsung phones, compared to the potential of 6ish with the iPhone.

Apple releases 1 phone a year, everything is riding on that phone. Samsung releases heaps of phones a year, so if the S4 doesn't go well, the Galaxy Note 3 can pick up on sales. There's more option with Samsung phones, which is why having 4 million Galaxy S4's sold in 4 days is great, because Samsung still have cheaper phones on the market which people will buy.

With Apple, there's no option. You can only get an iPhone. With Samsung you could get a Note, Galaxy phone etc. That is why people are tough on Apple, because unlike Samsung, they are only releasing one phone a year.

Samsung is using the "their everything on the market and hope a few stick" method.

 

[Luke]

With Apple, you only have one option: the iPhone. This is why everyone is so critical is because it's the only Apple phone you can buy. You could go out and buy around 100 different Samsung phones, compared to the potential of 6ish with the iPhone.

Apple releases 1 phone a year, everything is riding on that phone. Samsung releases heaps of phones a year, so if the S4 doesn't go well, the Galaxy Note 3 can pick up on sales. There's more option with Samsung phones, which is why having 4 million Galaxy S4's sold in 4 days is great, because Samsung still have cheaper phones on the market which people will buy.

With Apple, there's no option. You can only get an iPhone. With Samsung you could get a Note, Galaxy phone etc. That is why people are tough on Apple, because unlike Samsung, they are only releasing one phone a year.

Samsung is using the "their everything on the market and hope a few stick" method.

People want choice, not to only be able to choose from a very expensive iPhone. With Samsung they are getting things right by offering high end phones and also low-end phones and everything in the middle.

 

[Rick Ace]

Actually, Apple's strategy would have worked if it had continued being innovative. Apple was able to stick their image and reputation behind one line of products. That allowed them to pool resources, marketing, analysis, and promotion towards one direction. The effect it had on consumers was that this was "the only best". Consumers didn't have to look into 5 different lines of products, most of which are just reboxed/renamed from other lines.

The Samsung model is get all the people you can in the market. It's money-based.

While Apple's model was just "keep releasing the best phone". The problem is that the newer people in Apple just don't know their company's model. They have no idea what the company is doing. There's less and less of innovation. Apple's model is better to innovation. The only problem? They stopped sticking to it after the success of the iPad 2 (or was it 3? I think it was 2...).

 

[Luke]

While Apple's model was just "keep releasing the best phone". The problem is that the newer people in Apple just don't know their company's model. They have no idea what the company is doing. There's less and less of innovation. Apple's model is better to innovation. The only problem? They stopped sticking to it after the success of the iPad 2 (or was it 3? I think it was 2...).

Apple haven't had any innovation for a while. There was nothing exciting about the iPhone 5 at all. A bigger screen is a little to late, and the screen is still tiny compared to the likes of the GS4 and HTC One on the market.

 

[Rick Ace]

While Apple's model was just "keep releasing the best phone". The problem is that the newer people in Apple just don't know their company's model. They have no idea what the company is doing. There's less and less of innovation. Apple's model is better to innovation. The only problem? They stopped sticking to it after the success of the iPad 2 (or was it 3? I think it was 2...).

Apple haven't had any innovation for a while. There was nothing exciting about the iPhone 5 at all. A bigger screen is a little to late, and the screen is still tiny compared to the likes of the GS4 and HTC One on the market.

I'm not going to say that there's no innovation. But they were very late to join the club. Had they released this just an year earlier, the phone would have been met with kinder reviews.

And a tiny screen isn't always bad. Before the GS4 was announced, there was a lot of ranting about the HTC One's segmented design. But after looking at the GS4, people seemed to give the HTC One another chance.

The tiny screen isn't always the problem. You need to target your audience and tell people why you're using a tiny screen. If you're not much of a web browser, but needs some apps, then the iPhone might be for you. However, you need to price it right.