Anthropocentrism

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Anthropocentrism is either the belief that humans are the central and most significant entities in the universe, or the assessment of reality through an exclusively human perspective. The term can be used interchangably with humanocentrism, while the first concept can also be referred to as human supremacy. The views are especially associated with certain religious cultures.

Are you one of these sort of people?
 
To some extent, I think that everyone is like this. I try not to think that humans are superior to animals (I realize that we're animals, but bear with me), but I still would prioritize human life over animal life.
 
Snobothehobo said:
To some extent, I think that everyone is like this. I try not to think that humans are superior to animals (I realize that we're animals, but bear with me), but I still would prioritize human life over animal life.

I'm not. I wouldn't prioritize a human life over that of an animals. No species, no matter how big or small should be put up against each other and say one lives and one dies.

Hence why i don't eat meat, it's an animal, it's living, they can feel pain much like humans, if we eat animals, why don't we eat humans? It's the same thing.

Anyway, that's just me.
 
Antarctic said:
Snobothehobo said:
To some extent, I think that everyone is like this. I try not to think that humans are superior to animals (I realize that we're animals, but bear with me), but I still would prioritize human life over animal life.

I'm not. I wouldn't prioritize a human life over that of an animals. No species, no matter how big or small should be put up against each other and say one lives and one dies.

Hence why i don't eat meat, it's an animal, it's living, they can feel pain much like humans, if we eat animals, why don't we eat humans? It's the same thing.

Anyway, that's just me.

Hm, so if you had to either sacrifice your parents or a random stray dog, would you sacrifice your parents?
 
dotDavid said:
Antarctic said:
Snobothehobo said:
To some extent, I think that everyone is like this. I try not to think that humans are superior to animals (I realize that we're animals, but bear with me), but I still would prioritize human life over animal life.

I'm not. I wouldn't prioritize a human life over that of an animals. No species, no matter how big or small should be put up against each other and say one lives and one dies.

Hence why i don't eat meat, it's an animal, it's living, they can feel pain much like humans, if we eat animals, why don't we eat humans? It's the same thing.

Anyway, that's just me.

Hm, so if you had to either sacrifice your parents or a random stray dog, would you sacrifice your parents?

Been asked this before. I would do neither. I'd find another way around it.
 
Antarctic said:
dotDavid said:
Antarctic said:
Snobothehobo said:
To some extent, I think that everyone is like this. I try not to think that humans are superior to animals (I realize that we're animals, but bear with me), but I still would prioritize human life over animal life.

I'm not. I wouldn't prioritize a human life over that of an animals. No species, no matter how big or small should be put up against each other and say one lives and one dies.

Hence why i don't eat meat, it's an animal, it's living, they can feel pain much like humans, if we eat animals, why don't we eat humans? It's the same thing.

Anyway, that's just me.

Hm, so if you had to either sacrifice your parents or a random stray dog, would you sacrifice your parents?

Been asked this before. I would do neither. I'd find another way around it.

You have to answer one of them. You have only 2 options. (no pressure 😉)
 
I don't have to answer anything. I've said my answer, and I'd find another way around it, there's always other ways, I stick by what i say when i say I'd never put a humans life over an animals.
 
Antarctic said:
I don't have to answer anything. I've said my answer, and I'd find another way around it, there's always other ways, I stick by what i say when i say I'd never put a humans life over an animals.

But really, you are avoiding what really is true to you. If I were to choose, I would not sacrifice my parents. There won't be times where there is a third solution, you know. Its morally unjust to say that an animal's (as in a frog or a bat or a worm) life is more important than your parents, if you were not to choose an option.

Really, you make it sound like I should give a proper funeral for every ant I kill, if you see where I am coming from.

Also, I see that you might be coming from the perspective of the slaughters of whales in the Southern Ocean, and personally, I disagree with the Japanese on killing them. However, I will do everything in my power to ensure the safety of other humans. I would prefer to see a snail die then my parents dieing, if I had to choose.

Though, note the difference between hypothetically speaking and practically speaking.
 
dotDavid said:
Antarctic said:
I don't have to answer anything. I've said my answer, and I'd find another way around it, there's always other ways, I stick by what i say when i say I'd never put a humans life over an animals.

But really, you are avoiding what really is true to you. If I were to choose, I would not sacrifice my parents. There won't be times where there is a third solution, you know. Its morally unjust to say that an animal's (as in a frog or a bat or a worm) life is more important than your parents, if you were not to choose an option.

Really, you make it sound like I should give a proper funeral for every ant I kill, if you see where I am coming from.

Also, I see that you might be coming from the perspective of the slaughters of whales in the Southern Ocean, and personally, I disagree with the Japanese on killing them. However, I will do everything in my power to ensure the safety of other humans. I would prefer to see a snail die then my parents dieing, if I had to choose.

Though, note the difference between hypothetically speaking and practically speaking.

There's always a third solution. Say someone had a gun to my head, and said if you don't kill your parents or the dog, i will kill you, I'd let him kill me.

I'm not saying that my parents life is more important than that of an animal, i believe all are equal.

I am not saying you have to give a funeral to an ant, I'd highly doubt that would be possible also.

I'm not just coming from the slaughter of whales, no, the slaughter of every animal on this planet, yes. You obviously don't understand me, nor will you ever, it's how i think, nothing will change that, and don't make me feel like a bad person because i won't say that I'd kill my innocent parents or an innocent dog, you're making out like the dog is lesser.

I know most people won't understand me, or people who think like me, but that doesn't bother me, live how you want, and i will live how i want, don't judge other people for being different.
 
There's always a third solution. Say someone had a gun to my head, and said if you don't kill your parents or the dog, i will kill you, I'd let him kill me.
No, that just introduces a third solution. You have only 2 giving options, so you can only choose from 2.

I'm not saying that my parents life is more important than that of an animal, i believe all are equal.
But you are choosing a solution, meaning you are not denying it.

I am not saying you have to give a funeral to an ant, I'd highly doubt that would be possible also.
Same as above.

I'm not just coming from the slaughter of whales, no, the slaughter of every animal on this planet, yes. You obviously don't understand me, nor will you ever, it's how i think, nothing will change that, and don't make me feel like a bad person because i won't say that I'd kill my innocent parents or an innocent dog, you're making out like the dog is lesser.
Ok... 😕 That's nice to know, but I was asking a question with 2 options, and now you make it personal.

I know most people won't understand me, or people who think like me, but that doesn't bother me, live how you want, and i will live how i want, don't judge other people for being different.
I do actually see where you are coming from, believe it or not, and I haven't judged you, rather it seems the reverse. I am just saying I do what I believe is the better outcome for the majority, even if it means the dog has to die.

So one more underlying question, Laika, the first living thing to be sent to space. It was a dog and scientists knew that she were to never return. Would you opt into exchanging the dog for yourself to save the dog?
 
dotDavid said:
So one more underlying question, Laika, the first living thing to be sent to space. It was a dog and scientists knew that she were to never return. Would you opt into exchanging the dog for yourself to save the dog?

Yup. I don't even see the point into going to space. It's a waste of time. You're flying up into the air looking for water and intelligent life, when we have intelligent life right here, besides, Humans would only fuck up that planet also if they ever got to live on it.
 
There's always a third solution. Say someone had a gun to my head, and said if you don't kill your parents or the dog, i will kill you, I'd let him kill me.
I think that I'd have to do that, too. 🙁 I couldn't kill a dog.

I'm not entirely sure, though. I guess I'll never know until I'm in that situation.
 
@antarctic: Yes, there is a third option. The there option is to sacrifice a cat instead. Also, what about the single celled organisms and all? If you account for them, the only way you can not kill anything is to strap yourself a a bacteria free surface and slowly die... oh, but what about all the organisms in your body? It's impossible not to kill something, seriously.

It annoys me how people try to put animals above ourselves. It is a very, very counterproductive standpoint which will end up harming other humans. If we are all on an equal level, then why put animals above humans? I am not for harming animals when it is not needed, but it is inevitable that it will happen sometimes.

And guys, this is hypothetical. Very, very hypothetical. You are throughly dodging the question. As you say that you will die yourself, though, I perceive this is your opinions: Animals > Humans, as you are a human.

And I would almost bet money that you would have a dog die over yourself when it actually came down to it.
 
Cosmic said:
@antarctic: Yes, there is a third option. The there option is to sacrifice a cat instead. Also, what about the single celled organisms and all? If you account for them, the only way you can not kill anything is to strap yourself a a bacteria free surface and slowly die... oh, but what about all the organisms in your body? It's impossible not to kill something, seriously.

It annoys me how people try to put animals above ourselves. It is a very, very counterproductive standpoint which will end up harming other humans. If we are all on an equal level, then why put animals above humans? I am not for harming animals when it is not needed, but it is inevitable that it will happen sometimes.

And guys, this is hypothetical. Very, very hypothetical. You are throughly dodging the question. As you say that you will die yourself, though, I perceive this is your opinions: Animals > Humans, as you are a human.

And I would almost bet money that you would have a dog die over yourself when it actually came down to it.

Of course you can't save every animal in the world, or all organisms, but if you had the choice, and the options, I wouldn't do it. It's impossible not to kill bugs, but I'd much rather not.

I can guarantee you i wouldn't kill a dog if it came down to it, once again, you don't know anything about me, so you can't say that.

Ah well, There's always people who don't agree with others, and i couldn't care less TBH, I'll live the way i want, you live the way you want, I'm not going to stop you.

Besides, no one actually answered my question.

Hence why i don't eat meat, it's an animal, it's living, they can feel pain much like humans, if we eat animals, why don't we eat humans? It's the same thing.
 
Antarctic said:
Besides, no one actually answered my question.

Hence why i don't eat meat, it's an animal, it's living, they can feel pain much like humans, if we eat animals, why don't we eat humans? It's the same thing.

Eating humans is legally cannibalism. Evidence suggest that cannibalism came from the Aztecs. They ritualized and so it was a sacred part of their culture. This however does mean that it is a taboo as it is not moral in today's standards. A taboo is a sacred and forbidden social custom, hence illegal. Therefore cannibalism is illegal.

(though don't quote me on this)
 
dotDavid said:
Antarctic said:
Besides, no one actually answered my question.

Hence why i don't eat meat, it's an animal, it's living, they can feel pain much like humans, if we eat animals, why don't we eat humans? It's the same thing.

Eating humans is legally cannibalism. Evidence suggest that cannibalism came from the Aztecs. They ritualized and so it was a sacred part of their culture. This however does mean that it is a taboo as it is not moral in today's standards. A taboo is a sacred and forbidden social custom, hence illegal. Therefore cannibalism is illegal.

(though don't quote me on this)
Not necessarily, there are even more studies on the Aztecs to show that they just ate each other to satisfy their own hunger. Check it out sometime 🙂 I studied the Aztecs for a while, they are an interesting culture.

Let me just say, I don't want to start up a flame war here, but if you'd rather die than save your parents, there's something psychologically wrong with you. Unless you were abused by your parents as a child, I see absolutely no reason why someone would think that way.
 
Irviding said:
dotDavid said:
Antarctic said:
Besides, no one actually answered my question.

Hence why i don't eat meat, it's an animal, it's living, they can feel pain much like humans, if we eat animals, why don't we eat humans? It's the same thing.

Eating humans is legally cannibalism. Evidence suggest that cannibalism came from the Aztecs. They ritualized and so it was a sacred part of their culture. This however does mean that it is a taboo as it is not moral in today's standards. A taboo is a sacred and forbidden social custom, hence illegal. Therefore cannibalism is illegal.

(though don't quote me on this)
Not necessarily, there are even more studies on the Aztecs to show that they just ate each other to satisfy their own hunger. Check it out sometime 🙂 I studied the Aztecs for a while, they are an interesting culture.

Let me just say, I don't want to start up a flame war here, but if you'd rather die than save your parents, there's something physiologically wrong with you. Unless you were abused by your parents as a child, I see absolutely no reason why someone would think that way.

Oh, just place a human rib on top of a fire, and eat that for the satisfaction 😛 Like I said, "don't quote me on this", so cheers for clearing a little up.
 
dotDavid said:
Oh, just place a human rib on top of a fire, and eat that for the satisfaction 😛 Like I said, "don't quote me on this", so cheers for clearing a little up.
That's basically what they did, lol. There were studies done on Aztec remains which showed the bodies cut in ways to make eating easily, I'm not going to get more gorey than that, but yeah. 😛
 
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