Anybody a youtube partner for gaming?
- Thread starter GSquadron
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Red Herring
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GSquadron said:
Youtube earnings are a very inaccurate science. It ultimately depends on who exactly you're partnered up with.
Generally, you can earn anywhere from $1 - $6 per 1,000 views on a single video. So 100,000 view videos tend to earn $100 - $600 whereas 1,000,000 view videos can earn around $1000 - $6000 per video. This of course, does not include the constant views you get across your entire channel. There also many things that factor into it, such as how many of your viewers make use of AdBlock, deals made with your partners, publishers, your staff, etc.
Pewdiepie, a very popular Youtube gamer, is estimated to be earning anywhere from $500,000 to $13,000,000 a year, currently.
It all depends on the many factors involved with your partnership and viewerbase.
The general consensus is 70,000 - 120,000 views per video on a channel is enough to fully support the lifestyle of the Youtuber; perhaps even allowing for a small contingent of staff, and could possibly be much more depending on how much you're involved with various partners/communities.
Hope that gives you a bit of a rough idea.
zapmaster14
Up-and-Coming Sensation
Interesting
I am a partner, but I do not make that much since I dont upload that often. I wanted to become a partner with the old YT layout (links in partner banners) - thats what I really wanted :/ now it does not matter :/
zapmaster14
Up-and-Coming Sensation
Some gaming networks actually help with the youtube stuff but most of the time if your getting enough views just leave it as it is.
Red Herring
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Partnering up with a good network is actually the ideal way to go, if you intend to make Youtube a career (it's actually a very viable option). Not only will a good network assist you in promoting your content and help you score various promotion deals, but they will also protect you in the event of content disputes.
That last bit is incredibly important. Why? Because Youtube has a very abused copyright content takedown system. There have been a huge amount of gaming videos taken down due to some nasty developers attempting to censor negative opinion. A takedown will earn you a copyright strike. Three of those, and your entire channel will be taken down, which is a career ender for anyone attempting to go that route with Youtube.
Even if you have evidence to back up the fact that you had permission or rights to use someone's content, it can still be incredibly difficult to get a copyright strike revoked. If you're partnered with a good network, however, they will take care of it for you.
The trick is finding a good network to partner up with. If you do intend to pursue partnership, here's a bit of advice.
You can try to fly solo, if you like. But I will point out that almost no "big" Youtuber gets by without network support. Especially not without the protection that networks offer. Pewdiepie, TotalBiscuit, Game Grumps, Tobuscus, Cryaotic, Yogscast, OMFGcata, GameChaps, HuskyStarcraft, Etc, Etc, Etc, and many more all have the support of a network behind them.
That last bit is incredibly important. Why? Because Youtube has a very abused copyright content takedown system. There have been a huge amount of gaming videos taken down due to some nasty developers attempting to censor negative opinion. A takedown will earn you a copyright strike. Three of those, and your entire channel will be taken down, which is a career ender for anyone attempting to go that route with Youtube.
Even if you have evidence to back up the fact that you had permission or rights to use someone's content, it can still be incredibly difficult to get a copyright strike revoked. If you're partnered with a good network, however, they will take care of it for you.
The trick is finding a good network to partner up with. If you do intend to pursue partnership, here's a bit of advice.
- Never partner with Machinima. Ever. They retain control over your content and offer terrible revenue splits. They also generally treat their partners like crap.
- Research. If a network has just offered you partnership, do some research to ensure they're worth it. This is important, because once you make a contract, you're stuck with them until that contract ends.
- Fair revenue splits are generally considered to start with 70/30 (you being the 70). But you can always try to negotiate for more, especially if your channel is popular. Some networks will offer 80/20 or even as high as 90/10. Curse's Union For Gamers offers you a 90/10 split straight off the bat, although they do not offer *quite* as many perks as some of the other networks out there. The question to ask when contemplating a revenue split is whether or not what the network is offering you is worth it.
You can try to fly solo, if you like. But I will point out that almost no "big" Youtuber gets by without network support. Especially not without the protection that networks offer. Pewdiepie, TotalBiscuit, Game Grumps, Tobuscus, Cryaotic, Yogscast, OMFGcata, GameChaps, HuskyStarcraft, Etc, Etc, Etc, and many more all have the support of a network behind them.
Mr. Claws said:
I would disagree with that, you can make it without a network and many people do.
At the moment so many people are on YouTube networks that it's beginning to become pointless. When there's thousands of people in a network, they're not going to care the slightest about you unless you're one of their top earning people - then they will bother to look at you and promote your content for you. Other than that, the smaller people are ignored a lot in many networks.
I'm in a network and will probably get out of it when my contract ends, because they're focusing on the big people so much that it's pointless being in it, in fact I don't think they even do much with the big people really.
Luke said:
I agree, Luke.
YouTube partnerships are actually going to be taking a plunge come January 2014. A new rule is in place where any multi-channel networks will have to send their videos in for review manually, by a real person before their video can be monetized. This could take up to a couple of days, and will obviously take away possible views from your video. And that's even if your video is accepted. Oh, and this change will mostly affect video gaming channels.
Aside from that, using YouTube as the only method of income is a very bad idea as the web service itself is very volatile. A perfect example of that is explained above; here today, gone tomorrow.
Oh, and let's not even get onto the topic of talking about the popular YouTube whores like PewDiePie, RayWilliamJohnson, iJustine, Smosh, etc.
froggyboy604
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DylRicho said:
I heard the YouTube check will take 2-48 hours, but you can schedule videos to be visible after 2 days, or more when the checks are finished, so you do not lose as many views, and you can work on writing a better description, title, tags, annotations, and pick a good video category for more views via SEO, and the YouTube search box.
It is also a good ideo to schedule videos to be published during 5-9PM on Friday-Sunday when there are more people on YouTube than a weekday when people are more busy doing homework, work, and housework.
Some of the paid views would be lost, but a lot of video views come from video embeds and links posted on popular blogs, social networks like Reddit, Facebook, and Twitter, forums, website, or links shared by e-mail or instant messaging, so if the videos you make are good, they would be shared through out the year by viewers.
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