Anyone use Project Wonderful?

[BatM]

Hey guys 🙂 Just wondering if anyone else here happens to use a site called Project Wonderful?

If not, basically it is a site where people bid for ad space on your websites. You can choose what minimum bid to set (if any at all) and even choose which ads you do and don't want displayed. They pay you with a minimum payout of $10 through PayPal and I've viewed sites before where they have PW displayed and are getting bids of $30+ dollars a day 😵 (I wish I got that high!)

You should check them out, takes a few days to get your websites approved but they manually check.

If you want to get involved:
https://www.projectwonderful.com/

 

[Conky]

The website doesn't look entirely convincing. It borders on slightly unprofessional which makes me a bit sceptical.

A website that pays out to users and takes a cut needs to (at the very least) have a sleek, professional and modern site. It needs to be welcoming, easy to use and demonstrate a level of trust.

Project wonderful with its 'knocked up' logo, thrown-together homepage, crispy borders, lack of a proper support system and "image used under license" graphics make it look a very unattractive proposition indeed.

It wouldn't attract me as a site owner at all.

 

[J Greig]

The website doesn't look entirely convincing. It borders on slightly unprofessional which makes me a bit sceptical.

A website that pays out to users and takes a cut needs to (at the very least) have a sleek, professional and modern site. It needs to be welcoming, easy to use and demonstrate a level of trust.

Project wonderful with its 'knocked up' logo, thrown-together homepage, crispy borders, lack of a proper support system and "image used under license" graphics make it look a very unattractive proposition indeed.

It wouldn't attract me as a site owner at all.

It's owned by Ryan North, so I'm not sure why you'd be skeptical about joining. Project Wonderful serves as one of his main sources of income, that and another called Dinosaur Comics. He's quite a successful individual.

Sure the template isn't all that great, but if the services is good, that's all that matters.

 

[Conky]

I'm just providing my opinion based on the impression I get from the website. It's very unlikely that most people who stumble across the site even know who Ryan North is, which makes a professional and trusting website all the more important.

That said, I still wouldn't be comfortable using the site...even if Alan Sugar owned it. 😉

 

[J Greig]

even if Alan Sugar owned it. 😉

I wouldn't join any site he owned, haha!

 

[Nuke]

I use it, but I plan on ditching it.

 

[Jake]

Conky, I don't see any knocked up logo, and the website seems fairly professional in all other areas you've criticized, so I don't see what your point is??

 

[Conky]

Conky, I don't see any knocked up logo, and the website seems fairly professional in all other areas you've criticized, so I don't see what your point is??

Compare it to: http://buysellads.com , for example.

 

[Ztg]

That said, I still wouldn't be comfortable using the site...even if Alan Sugar owned it

You are entitled to your opinions, however, Correct me if i'm wrong- but are you implying that if you had a choice between two similar websites, one being of better service and success rate than the other, you'd use/trust the lesser of the two simply because it looks more appealing?

 

[Conky]

are you implying that if you had a choice between two similar websites, one being of better service and success rate than the other, you'd use/trust the lesser of the two simply because it looks more appealing?

Yes. In an absolute heartbeat.

Project wonderful (in addition to sounding like a kindergarten project) looks like it was thrown together by a 13 year old whose just learned the basics of HTML and CSS.

I guess by your reply you're suggesting that Project Wonderful is more successful than BSA?

 

[Ztg]

That doesn't make any sense, How does a website's look/design BENEFIT you in regards to the quality of services they provide in comparison to nicer looking website with poor services? but hey whatever floats your boats..lol

I guess by your reply you're suggesting that Project Wonderful is more successful than BSA?

Nope, I don't know of or use neither. Was hypothetically asking..

 

[Nuke]

PW is not bad, but I just want to launch a CPM-based service when my company launches.

 

[Conky]

That doesn't make any sense, How does a website's look/design BENEFIT you in regards to the quality of services they provide in comparison to nicer looking website with poor services? but hey whatever floats your boats..lol

From experience I have learned that sites with professional designs perform far better and are much more trustworthy than those with "thrown together" websites.

The same principle can apply to forums. You could have one graphics forum that is perhaps the best on the internet, but uses the default software style. Then there could be another one which is only a little bit less popular, but uses a fully kitted out, custom, shiny style. Without knowing that the first one was the internet's best graphics forum, you'd probably choose the one that looks the nicest right?

Same example with vehciles.

car 1: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5y6BDZmsqpE/T ... aper+1.jpg
Car 2: http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n51 ... 1323027600

Without knowing the reliability of each of those vehicles, how well they drive, their miles-per-gallon etc.. if you were asked which one looks more reliable and which one you'd like to drive to work every day...you're going to choose the Audi.

When a user visits a new website, subconsciously they make a decision within the first 3-10 seconds whether they want to continue exploring or leave.

First impressions are absolutely everything.

 

[J Greig]

From experience I have learned that sites with professional designs perform far better and are much more trustworthy than those with "thrown together" websites.

I'm sorry, but really? I've seen websites with poor designs but have very high volumes of traffic/members. The design, while it can impact on how you judge a company, should never interfere with how you would rate their services. If a company offer a great service, you should never mark them down because you 'didn't like their design'. That would mean people looking for their kind of service are getting put off because of the poor comments a user has left, merely because they didn't like the design.

For example. You are saying Project Wonderful sounds like something from kindergarten and their design is poor. That there could potentially lose them customers, when their service could be excellent. If you are going to judge a company, at least try their service before writing negative comments about them.

It obviously looks as if they spend more time making sure their service is more of quality than than how their website looks.

When a user visits a new website, subconsciously they make a decision within the first 3-10 seconds whether they want to continue exploring or leave.

Not true. A member of my family has a business and he get's a lot of clients through his website even though it is one of the worst looking websites I've seen.

The same principle can apply to forums. You could have one graphics forum that is perhaps the best on the internet, but uses the default software style. Then there could be another one which is only a little bit less popular, but uses a fully kitted out, custom, shiny style. Without knowing that the first one was the internet's best graphics forum, you'd probably choose the one that looks the nicest right?

No? Because if you actually looked through the forum, you wouldn't just join the forum that looked better.

 

[Conky]

The design, while it can impact on how you judge a company

A member of my family has a business and he get's a lot of clients through his website even though it is one of the worst looking websites I've seen.

You've just contradicted yourself. :shrug:

As for the rest of the post, without quoting every post I'll just say that I am just as entitled to provide an opinion based on the look of a website as anyone else is. Whether or not it loses them customers really isn't my problem - it's like somebody posting a link to their forum, somebody replying to say that it could do with a better design or some modifications , and then you saying that particular comment could lose them members? :shrug:

I also noticed you chose to skip the car example, which proves my point completely:

Same example with vehciles.

car 1: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5y6BDZmsqpE/T ... aper+1.jpg
Car 2: http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n51 ... 1323027600

Without knowing the reliability of each of those vehicles, how well they drive, their miles-per-gallon etc.. if you were asked which one looks more reliable and which one you'd like to drive to work every day...you're going to choose the Audi.

 

[J Greig]

The design, while it can impact on how you judge a company

A member of my family has a business and he get's a lot of clients through his website even though it is one of the worst looking websites I've seen.

You've just contradicted yourself. :shrug:

As for the rest of the post, without quoting every post I'll just say that I am just as entitled to provide an opinion based on the look of a website as anyone else is. Whether or not it loses them customers really isn't my problem - it's like somebody posting a link to their forum, somebody replying to say that it could do with a better design or some modifications , and then you saying that particular comment could lose them members? :shrug:

I also noticed you chose to skip the car example, which proves my point completely:

Same example with vehciles.

car 1: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5y6BDZmsqpE/T ... aper+1.jpg
Car 2: http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n51 ... 1323027600

Without knowing the reliability of each of those vehicles, how well they drive, their miles-per-gallon etc.. if you were asked which one looks more reliable and which one you'd like to drive to work every day...you're going to choose the Audi.

I didn't contradict myself. If you read what I wrote, I say that the design can impact a company but not the services they offer, or shouldn't anyway.

Yes, I didn't skip I merely left them out on purpose. Your putting up 2 examples of cars when we are talking about websites. Your comparing metal with HTML/CSS, which is a totally different matter.

You'd choose the Audi, a lot of others would choose the second car, it doesn't make the Audi better or the other car less likely to be chosen.

If we are going by examples other than websites, let's go with cakes for example. If a company that was shut down after people found insects in their cakes and they then come back 2 years later and they bring out this truly amazing looking cake (you can't see inside it or taste it until you buy it), would you buy it over a well respected cake maker such as Mr Kipling, even though their cake looks disgusting?

 

[Conky]

Your hypothetical examples are laugh-out-loud weak at best.

I didn't contradict myself

You did. You said that a design can impact how you judge a company, then went on to say that design doesn't matter because your brother's company gets loads of clients. So in your opinion does design matter or doesn't it?

Yes, I didn't skip I merely left them out on purpose. Your putting up 2 examples of cars when we are talking about websites. Your comparing metal with HTML/CSS, which is a totally different matter.

Firstly, it's "you're" as opposed to "your". You cannot simply leave out an example because you don't think it applies to the internet, and then make an example about cakes. And yes I compared metal with pixels on a screen - it's not a completely different matter, it's demonstrating the power of first impressions.

You'd choose the Audi, a lot of others would choose the second car, it doesn't make the Audi better or the other car less likely to be chosen.

Clearly you didn't read the example. I suggested that if both of the cars were in front of you and you didn't know anything about them; but were asked which one you'd rather drive...then you'd choose the audi. It's clearly a superior design aesthetically and humans like nice things, which is why most people would choose the Audi. (It also happens to be the reason people love Apple products). You cannot simply say "many would choose the other car" without giving any reason as to 'why' they would choose the other car.

If a company that was shut down after people found insects in their cakes and they then come back 2 years later and they bring out this truly amazing looking cake (you can't see inside it or taste it until you buy it), would you buy it over a well respected cake maker such as Mr Kipling, even though their cake looks disgusting?

Your example here is tailored to win the argument. The reason we're currently debating is because we disagree on the importance of first impressions. So with regard to your cake example...my first impressions of this new 'truly amazing looking cake' would be good, because it's the first time I've seen it. If it's the first time I've ever seen or heard about the cake shop, then what reason am I going to have 'not' to try it? How am I supposed to know they had insects in their cakes 2 years ago?

So using the same principle, how am I supposed to know Project Wonderful is a good site without knowing anything about it? First impressions...and their design sucks...so that's how I came to my conclusion.

 

[J Greig]

So in your opinion does design matter or doesn't it?

Well, no! That's what I've been saying. It doesn't matter if the design isn't good as long as the service they provide is.

Can I ask why you are correcting my grammar? I find it disrespectful (my opinion).

Secondly, I never once said my 'brother'.

Thirdly, this has gone far enough. It's turning into a debate about everything un-related to Project Wonderful, which I should never have got involved in.

 

[Conky]

Secondly, I never once said my 'brother'.

You did, but I can see you've now edited it out.

Can I ask why you are correcting my grammar? I find it disrespectful (my opinion).

Just helping you out. You never know when you'll need those essential grammar skills. Job assessment, blog article, leaving a note to the girl who you you've just had a one-night stand with but sobered up and realised the massive mistake you've just made.

 

[Ztg]

In acknowledging your disagreements, the mature thing for both of you to do would have been to stop replying and let each other stand by your opinions in which you're both entitled to rather than having a long off topic argument to prove your points. It's really not that serious guys.

Just helping you out. You never know when you'll need those essential grammar skills.

This isn't english class and he can spl it hwevr hee wnts(see what i did there?). I may be wrong but, the way in which you corrected him does not insist you were "trying to help him out" but rather insulting him in the heat of the argument..I'm pretty sure he knows how to spell "you're".

Nonetheless, yall need to chill lol..🙂