Apple vs. Android/Other

[iPhonefreak]

I find fault in that report. I'd say 99.9%of that goes to Android. I'd like to say ios has no viruses or malware, which is true, people would argue.

 

[death180]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

I can't tell if your joking or if your really that ignorant.

 

[Martee]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

I find fault in that report. I'd say 99.9%of that goes to Android. I'd like to say ios has no viruses or malware, which is true, people would argue.

As an iOS fan myself, I can see why you'd think that but in truth, of course there is exploits floating around. Hell, you can inject malware onto an iPhone via a modded charger. Of course, that's a bit more far out there than most conventional methods but I still wouldn't say that 99.9% of malware attacks can be attributed to Android.

Can jailbreak methods be counted as exploits? Because maybe those exploits could be used as malware points as well. From what I've seen, one of the lead jail breakers may have even stumbled across a bootrom exploit.

Either way, whilst iOS may be a 'closed' system, even I don't think it is perfectly safe, no system is. iOS has a much better update system than Android I believe which is what keeps iOS that much safer than Android but there are pros and cons to each one.

This isn't meant to be seen as a dig at you by the way, merely an opinion. 😛

 

[Martee]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

I encourage you all to update before you get infected!

Most android phones come with a customized version of android from retailers, so for example, I have to wait until virgin mobile decides to release an update for me get the latest version. 4% of Android users have the latest version, because the company they go with are still updating the phone (or it was bought from Google).

Android is super fragmented, and probably always will be. Still, I've rooted my phone and keep my custom rom updated to try and avoid this.

One of the few things that is keeping me from moving to Android really. I love the way I know I can just tap update and get my update with iOS, it helps me feel a bit more secure than I believe I would on an Android phone.

 

[iPhonefreak]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

I can't tell if your joking or if your really that ignorant.

Yes, I'm the most ignorant person you'll ever know.

Apple rules.

-- Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:34 pm --

Just be smart about what you can download. Any mobile device is at risk. Nothing is uncrackable 😛

You can download anything on the App Store and it is safe.<br /><br />-- Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:37 pm --<br /><br />

I find fault in that report. I'd say 99.9%of that goes to Android. I'd like to say ios has no viruses or malware, which is true, people would argue.

As an iOS fan myself, I can see why you'd think that but in truth, of course there is exploits floating around. Hell, you can inject malware onto an iPhone via a modded charger. Of course, that's a bit more far out there than most conventional methods but I still wouldn't say that 99.9% of malware attacks can be attributed to Android.

Can jailbreak methods be counted as exploits? Because maybe those exploits could be used as malware points as well. From what I've seen, one of the lead jail breakers may have even stumbled across a bootrom exploit.

Either way, whilst iOS may be a 'closed' system, even I don't think it is perfectly safe, no system is. iOS has a much better update system than Android I believe which is what keeps iOS that much safer than Android but there are pros and cons to each one.

This isn't meant to be seen as a dig at you by the way, merely an opinion. 😛

Jailbreaking isn't counted in this. Your device becomes more vunerable though. The modded charger is a long shot, and unless you know a a guy that has one, and you use it you aren't gonna get infected. The update system, and the fact the OS is fairly secure, and all apps are approved.

 

[Luke]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

Just be smart about what you can download. Any mobile device is at risk. Nothing is uncrackable 😛

You can download anything on the App Store and it is safe.

-- Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:37 pm --

I find fault in that report. I'd say 99.9%of that goes to Android. I'd like to say ios has no viruses or malware, which is true, people would argue.

As an iOS fan myself, I can see why you'd think that but in truth, of course there is exploits floating around. Hell, you can inject malware onto an iPhone via a modded charger. Of course, that's a bit more far out there than most conventional methods but I still wouldn't say that 99.9% of malware attacks can be attributed to Android.

Can jailbreak methods be counted as exploits? Because maybe those exploits could be used as malware points as well. From what I've seen, one of the lead jail breakers may have even stumbled across a bootrom exploit.

Either way, whilst iOS may be a 'closed' system, even I don't think it is perfectly safe, no system is. iOS has a much better update system than Android I believe which is what keeps iOS that much safer than Android but there are pros and cons to each one.

This isn't meant to be seen as a dig at you by the way, merely an opinion. 😛

Jailbreaking isn't counted in this. Your device becomes more vunerable though. The modded charger is a long shot, and unless you know a a guy that has one, and you use it you aren't gonna get infected. The update system, and the fact the OS is fairly secure, and all apps are approved.

Malware has been on the App StoreiPhonesheep and I bet there's even some stuff on it right now. So it seems as though Apple's reviewing team isn't up to your 110% standards you're trying to brag about.

And in regard to Haze's comment, researchers can inject arbitrary software onto any Apple device running the latest version of iOS. In-fact it only takes under a minute for it to happen.

Anyway, looks as though people aren't liking Apple's latest iPhone 5 which is basically the iPhone 1, iPhone 3G, 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s anyways. 😛

 

[iPhonefreak]

I stand with my statement.<br /><br />-- Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:23 pm --<br /><br />

Malware has been on the App StoreiPhonesheep and I bet there's even some stuff on it right now. So it seems as though Apple's reviewing team isn't up to your 110% standards you're trying to brag about.

And in regard to Haze's comment, researchers can inject arbitrary software onto any Apple device running the latest version of iOS. In-fact it only takes under a minute for it to happen.

Anyway, looks as though people aren't liking Apple's latest iPhone 5 which is basically the iPhone 1, iPhone 3G, 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s anyways. 😛

1) True, that has been found, but Apple quickly removed it, so end of story. I doubt there is any on there right now. Google's store is full of crap.
2)And how likely is this? There is only a few of these probably in the world, and in the event you use one, I would have a higher chance of being struck by lightning.
3) Now you really hit my nerve, even after calling my iPhonesheep.

I guess people really hate every other device then, huh? Apple sold 5M iPhone 5's on the first weekend, and it took Samsung a whole month to sell 10M. I highly do not think the 5 is like all of the others, do you? Your the tech blogger, so you should know that it is not.

 

[Luke]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

I stand with my statement.

-- Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:23 pm --

Malware has been on the App StoreiPhonesheep and I bet there's even some stuff on it right now. So it seems as though Apple's reviewing team isn't up to your 110% standards you're trying to brag about.

And in regard to Haze's comment, researchers can inject arbitrary software onto any Apple device running the latest version of iOS. In-fact it only takes under a minute for it to happen.

Anyway, looks as though people aren't liking Apple's latest iPhone 5 which is basically the iPhone 1, iPhone 3G, 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s anyways. 😛

1) True, that has been found, but Apple quickly removed it, so end of story. I doubt there is any on there right now. Google's store is full of crap.
2)And how likely is this? There is only a few of these probably in the world, and in the event you use one, I would have a higher chance of being struck by lightning.
3) Now you really hit my nerve, even after calling my iPhonesheep.

I guess people really hate every other device then, huh? Apple sold 5M iPhone 5's on the first weekend, and it took Samsung a whole month to sell 10M. I highly do not think the 5 is like all of the others, do you? Your the tech blogger, so you should know that it is not.

Yes, I see the iPhone 5 like all the others, no innovation, nothing different apart from half an inch of screen space. Did you also notice Apple's stock crashed after announcing the iPhone 5? Wall Street is noticing that the iPhone is beginning to fall, due to no innovation on Apple's part. Wall Street predicted 8 million on the first weekend and Apple massively under performed.

Let's take a quote from Forbes:

Blodget writes that “excitement should begin to build about the iPhone 5S, the new iPad Mini.” He admits that these products are nothing new. Moreover, based on the bored reaction from my students last fall to the iPhone 5′s announcement, many may shrug should Apple release these “new” versions of old products.

Many will conclude that there is no compelling reason to replace their current iPhones. Or, perhaps they will buy the latest offerings from Samsung and other Android makers.

Annnnnd another:

Analysts called 6 million units for the iPhone 5 the "worst case scenario" for Apple's opening weekend

Apple may be selling products well, but not up to the standard of their investors.

Fast forward to today and as the great Yogi Berra once said, “It’s like deja vu all over again.” The iPhone 5 has been launched and it looks an awful lot like the iPhone 4s. Yes, the glass has been removed from the back (one fewer thing to break). Yes, it has 4G LTE. Yes, it’s a tiny bit larger. Yes, it’s 18% thinner. And, yes, finally (and Apple fans know how loaded that word is), the screen is larger, at 4 inches diagonally.

Those open mouths are not agape with awe; they are the collective yawns of the Android community and, dare we say it, the small band of Windows Phone users. The truth is, not one of these features is revolutionary and they’ve all been available since 2011 on phones from some combination of Samsung, Motorola, Nokia, and HTC. In fact, one can take it a step further: Apple’s specs are actually unimpressive compared to many of those phones. I don’t mean specs like megahertz or number of processor cores. Consumers don’t care about those things and the new iPhone does have an improved custom processor. It should keep pace with — or exceed — the best phones on the market.

Apple needs to start the innovation train back up, otherwise we're going to see the same iPhone 5 being announced at the end of the year, but just called the iPhone 5S.

And I don't hate every other blog and yes I am a tech blogger, so I'm seeing all the great stuff other companies are releasing daily - and trust me - Apple is loosing it's game.

 

[xpl0iter]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

Apple sold 5M iPhone 5's on the first weekend, and it took Samsung a whole month to sell 10M.

In my opinion that comparison doesn't stand. Android runs a lot of devices, thousands of them. But iOS is running on basically a few devices, iPhone 3gs(I really don't know if people still use prior versions), iPhone 4, iPhone 4S and iPhone 5. So if anyone like IOS, that person has only got a single choice to make when a new version of the device comes on market. So its no wonder that it sold 5 million devices with in the first few days. Now when it comes to android, a lot of people don't like Samsung, I know I don't because of its cheap plastic body. And they do have a lot of other choices, they can buy HTC/Motorola/Asus/LG/etc etc.

So if you have to compare compare I think it should be between, the number of iOS devices and the number of Android devices sold.

Now talking about Malwares, Yes android has a lot more malwares when compared with iOS. And yes Google should really have a screening process for apps. But you're forgetting one thing, Google is not selling Android, android is a free OS. This is the reason why you have a lot of low cost smartphones with android running on it. Most of these phones are pretty good when the features and specs are taken into account. This way people who cannot spend a thousand dollars on a smart phone can also have decent smart phone experience.

If you really care about the malware apps on play store, you can actually install antivirus apps like kaspersky, avast etc.

 

[iPhonefreak]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

Other companies are releasing stuff that is called gimmicky. As for you seeing it no different then other iPhones other then the screen is bigger is absurd.

I would not call thinner or lighter the same
I would not call LTE the same
I would not call an aluminum back the same
I would not call the new lightning connector the same
I would not call iOS 6 the same
I would not call upgraded cameras the same

Onto Wall Street, I agree their stock is not doing well. But how many times has their stock split? Stock really has no indication on how well it is selling.

The worst case scenario for 6M units, their problem is they put it at way too high standards, even for Apple.

Referring to the last post, I would like to ask them what else do they want? A toothpaste dispenser? A money machine? Apple does not put gimmicky things out there, just to say they have it. And the specs, the reason why Apple's specs are unimpressive is because iOS runs so efficiently it takes Android devices 2x or 3x the power to match the performance of Appe's iPhone. I test ran the S4 in Best buy (after feuding with the SCAMSUNG guy) and I found it no faster then the iPhone. I found it rather hard to operate. Yep, there is a phone icon, messaging and internet.

As for your comments, I check BGR and 9to5mac several times a day, so I know what's up in the tech world, too.

Apple is not loosing its game. Do you realized it has taken 2, almost 3 years for everyone to catch up? Apple let up on the gas, Apple knows what they are doing.<br /><br />-- Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:01 pm --<br /><br />

Apple sold 5M iPhone 5's on the first weekend, and it took Samsung a whole month to sell 10M.

In my opinion that comparison doesn't stand. Android runs a lot of devices, thousands of them. But iOS is running on basically a few devices, iPhone 3gs(I really don't know if people still use prior versions), iPhone 4, iPhone 4S and iPhone 5. So if anyone like IOS, that person has only got a single choice to make when a new version of the device comes on market. So its no wonder that it sold 5 million devices with in the first few days. Now when it comes to android, a lot of people don't like Samsung, I know I don't because of its cheap plastic body. And they do have a lot of other choices, they can buy HTC/Motorola/Asus/LG/etc etc.

So if you have to compare compare I think it should be between, the number of iOS devices and the number of Android devices sold.

Now talking about Malwares, Yes android has a lot more malwares when compared with iOS. And yes Google should really have a screening process for apps. But you're forgetting one thing, Google is not selling Android, android is a free OS. This is the reason why you have a lot of low cost smartphones with android running on it. Most of these phones are pretty good when the features and specs are taken into account. This way people who cannot spend a thousand dollars on a smart phone can also have decent smart phone experience.

If you really care about the malware apps on play store, you can actually install antivirus apps like kaspersky, avast etc.

Actually, Samsung sold 10M S4's in the first month. So yes it is a valid comparison. Even if it was Samsungs whole fleet, it would still be valid and it would mean an even bigger score for Apple.

And why install anti viruses when if you buy an iPhone, you do not need one? And because you said of the free OS, that brings up the fragmentation issue and an open software, so it is not s good.

 

[WotaCo]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

I think they could make updating a more notified area, much like iTunes for example.

 

[Luke]

I would not call thinner or lighter the same
I would not call LTE the same
I would not call an aluminum back the same
I would not call the new lightning connector the same
I would not call iOS 6 the same
I would not call upgraded cameras the same

Those are basically things which other companies have already done. LTE has been on phones since 2010-11 (from what I remember, could be wrong), the lightning connector - well that wasn't really revolutionary because companies have been using TINY charging cables for years and years, iOS 6 was basically iOS 5 and the camera.... well other companies actually have a lot better cameras. I put the S4 and the iPhone 5 head to head in with the camera and the S4 smashed the iPhone with correct colouring, better quality and also better HD recording.

Those things might be revolutionary for you, an absolute Apple fan, but for us who actually bother to try new things and don't face the fact that there's a lot of better phones out there, these aren't, most of the features where Apple's attempt at trying to catch up to the competition. I'm sorry iPhonesheep, but us who actually try different things have had most of the iPhone's features for years.

And why install anti viruses when if you buy an iPhone, you do not need one? And because you said of the free OS, that brings up the fragmentation issue and an open software, so it is not s good.

Actually it is good. It's why Android is most popular mobile operating system. Companies can style the operating system, to make it their own. Look at the HTC One and Samsung Galaxy S4 and it's a complete different experience, even though it's running the same software. Companies and even users can make Android look like an operating system they want, they could even make it look like iOS if someone was crazy enough to want Android to look like iOS.

Actually, Samsung sold 10M S4's in the first month. So yes it is a valid comparison. Even if it was Samsungs whole fleet, it would still be valid and it would mean an even bigger score for Apple.

The iPhone 5 went on to sell 33 million units in 2012 which was roughly the same number that Samsung sold of the S3 in the same period.

An opening weekend isn't a good comparison, because most people don't actually buy new phones on the first weekend they come out. Many people will wait, read the reviews of the phone which come out over the first weekend and then might go and get it the next week after reading reviews and hearing about the product. So you're fight is invalid, because Samsung and Apple managed to sell the same amount of phones during 2012.

Ohh and on the performance thing, you realise that the Samsung Galaxy S4 has 2.16 times better performance than the iPhone 5 right? The iPhone 5 is as powerful as the Samsung Galaxy S III..... Ooops, looks like we have a fault in your argument.

The features in iOS are limited and really lacks innovation. iOS is great for children and those who aren't able/familiar with more powerful technology. Apple wants you to have a bulletproof experience with iOS, but sometimes that isn't what consumers want. We want to be able to change things in our phones and not feel locked down, which is something you don't feel when using Android. iOS used to be better than Android, but in the last few years, iOS hasn't changed massively and Android has continued to get stronger and stronger and much better. iOS is stale and Android is innovating with every release.

Back in 2007 when Apple released the first iPhone, they were great. They were market leaders and innovating like there's no tomorrow. In the past few years they've just completely stopped. Nothing used to match the iPhone back in 07, but now there's a large handful of devices which are more powerful, more capable and just all around better devices than the iPhone 5.

I used to be an Apple fan, then I got bored that I could hardly do anything with my iPad, so I moved to a Surface and I will never go back to an iPad. The amount of things I can do on my Surface compared to an iPad is a massive list and allows me to do school work, use a USB stick and be more productive. Then Samsung sent me the S4 to review, and the amount of innovation in that one phone was more than Apple has done with their last 3-4 phones.

 

[xpl0iter]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

Actually, Samsung sold 10M S4's in the first month. So yes it is a valid comparison. Even if it was Samsungs whole fleet, it would still be valid and it would mean an even bigger score for Apple.

And why install anti viruses when if you buy an iPhone, you do not need one? And because you said of the free OS, that brings up the fragmentation issue and an open software, so it is not s good.

We were talking about the OS, so its not a valid comparison, period.
Now why to install them? Because you pay less money, a lot lesser for android smart phones. Also some people like android phones, so they prefer that.

Other companies are releasing stuff that is called gimmicky

You're such a fan boy. But now that you said that, I would like to point this out, those are gimmicky phones with all the features you need with a lesser price tag. And also I would call increasing the screen size only lengthwise a failed gimmick to match up with the large screen trend.

And the specs, the reason why Apple's specs are unimpressive is because iOS runs so efficiently it takes Android devices 2x or 3x the power to match the performance of Appe's iPhone.

Seriously? Check this Benchmarks
I think I have a guess about your next argument. Real world usage performance is different from benchmarking performance? If that is your argument, I have only one thing to say check the difference score between the first one and iPhone 5.

I test ran the S4 in Best buy (after feuding with the SCAMSUNG guy) and I found it no faster then the iPhone. I found it rather hard to operate.

Yeah there is nothing easier than copying some video files from a friend's laptop in iPhone. And yeah sending a few photos via bluetooth is also very easy. I can go on and on saying stuffs like this. And you will come up the negatives of android too. But whats the point? Like someone in this topic said, both OS have their own advantages and disadvantages. But saying 99% of the malwares are because of android and Apple Store is 100% safe was stupid.

 

[iPhonefreak]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

I would not call thinner or lighter the same
I would not call LTE the same
I would not call an aluminum back the same
I would not call the new lightning connector the same
I would not call iOS 6 the same
I would not call upgraded cameras the same

Those are basically things which other companies have already done. LTE has been on phones since 2010-11 (from what I remember, could be wrong), the lightning connector - well that wasn't really revolutionary because companies have been using TINY charging cables for years and years, iOS 6 was basically iOS 5 and the camera.... well other companies actually have a lot better cameras. I put the S4 and the iPhone 5 head to head in with the camera and the S4 smashed the iPhone with correct colouring, better quality and also better HD recording.

Those things might be revolutionary for you, an absolute Apple fan, but for us who actually bother to try new things and don't face the fact that there's a lot of better phones out there, these aren't, most of the features where Apple's attempt at trying to catch up to the competition. I'm sorry iPhonesheep, but us who actually try different things have had most of the iPhone's features for years.

And why install anti viruses when if you buy an iPhone, you do not need one? And because you said of the free OS, that brings up the fragmentation issue and an open software, so it is not s good.

Actually it is good. It's why Android is most popular mobile operating system. Companies can style the operating system, to make it their own. Look at the HTC One and Samsung Galaxy S4 and it's a complete different experience, even though it's running the same software. Companies and even users can make Android look like an operating system they want, they could even make it look like iOS if someone was crazy enough to want Android to look like iOS.

Actually, Samsung sold 10M S4's in the first month. So yes it is a valid comparison. Even if it was Samsungs whole fleet, it would still be valid and it would mean an even bigger score for Apple.

The iPhone 5 went on to sell 33 million units in 2012 which was roughly the same number that Samsung sold of the S3 in the same period.

An opening weekend isn't a good comparison, because most people don't actually buy new phones on the first weekend they come out. Many people will wait, read the reviews of the phone which come out over the first weekend and then might go and get it the next week after reading reviews and hearing about the product. So you're fight is invalid, because Samsung and Apple managed to sell the same amount of phones during 2012.

Ohh and on the performance thing, you realise that the Samsung Galaxy S4 has 2.16 times better performance than the iPhone 5 right? The iPhone 5 is as powerful as the Samsung Galaxy S III..... Ooops, looks like we have a fault in your argument.

The features in iOS are limited and really lacks innovation. iOS is great for children and those who aren't able/familiar with more powerful technology. Apple wants you to have a bulletproof experience with iOS, but sometimes that isn't what consumers want. We want to be able to change things in our phones and not feel locked down, which is something you don't feel when using Android. iOS used to be better than Android, but in the last few years, iOS hasn't changed massively and Android has continued to get stronger and stronger and much better. iOS is stale and Android is innovating with every release.

Back in 2007 when Apple released the first iPhone, they were great. They were market leaders and innovating like there's no tomorrow. In the past few years they've just completely stopped. Nothing used to match the iPhone back in 07, but now there's a large handful of devices which are more powerful, more capable and just all around better devices than the iPhone 5.

I used to be an Apple fan, then I got bored that I could hardly do anything with my iPad, so I moved to a Surface and I will never go back to an iPad. The amount of things I can do on my Surface compared to an iPad is a massive list and allows me to do school work, use a USB stick and be more productive. Then Samsung sent me the S4 to review, and the amount of innovation in that one phone was more than Apple has done with their last 3-4 phones.

Apple waited until people could actually use LTE in a widespread area, not just in a few cities. The cable charger is universal, so no innovation there. And your putting a phone that was released several months ago, and cameras are not all about Megapixels. And I doubt it smashed it.

So, back in 2007 we had everything the iPhone had, and Apple was basically catching up? Yeah, I do not think so. Companies have been playing catch up with the iPhone ever since the iPhone 4S. I do not try new things because I do not like to waste my time with useless crap that people like to call Android.

I do not call fragmentation good. And the reason why Android is slightly the most used bought operating system is because there are so many phones. iOS surprising dominates in web traffic.

There is not a fault in my argument. those geekbenches do not account in for how slopily the OS runs. As I said, the S4 does not run faster then the 5.

Opening week tells you the demand for it, and obviously there is and never will be much samsung devices. That hype died quickly. I'd like to see where you got your stats from with that s3 quote.

I bet you say iOS 7 looks the same as everything else, right? Without iOS, android would not be very dominant or not existent today.

And how is that battery life on the surface? And on that sucky windows OS.I find it funny that in those commercials they use Siri. What you call innovation is what I call useless crap. More innovation then in their last 3 or phones? You gotta be kidding me!!! That is BS! Competitors have been trying to catch up with Apple's innovation for years. 3-4 phones ago was the 3G or 3GS. The 4 had a hell of a lot of innovation and uniqueness. And if you argue with me you have no business writng any article about any product!

Notice of how Apple released the iPhone and all of the phones changed? Samsung has to pay Apple over a billion dollars for patent infringement? What do you call that on Samsung part?<br /><br />-- Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:23 pm --<br /><br />

Actually, Samsung sold 10M S4's in the first month. So yes it is a valid comparison. Even if it was Samsungs whole fleet, it would still be valid and it would mean an even bigger score for Apple.

And why install anti viruses when if you buy an iPhone, you do not need one? And because you said of the free OS, that brings up the fragmentation issue and an open software, so it is not s good.

We were talking about the OS, so its not a valid comparison, period.
Now why to install them? Because you pay less money, a lot lesser for android smart phones. Also some people like android phones, so they prefer that.

Other companies are releasing stuff that is called gimmicky

You're such a fan boy. But now that you said that, I would like to point this out, those are gimmicky phones with all the features you need with a lesser price tag. And also I would call increasing the screen size only lengthwise a failed gimmick to match up with the large screen trend.

And the specs, the reason why Apple's specs are unimpressive is because iOS runs so efficiently it takes Android devices 2x or 3x the power to match the performance of Appe's iPhone.

Seriously? Check this Benchmarks
I think I have a guess about your next argument. Real world usage performance is different from benchmarking performance? If that is your argument, I have only one thing to say check the difference score between the first one and iPhone 5.

I test ran the S4 in Best buy (after feuding with the SCAMSUNG guy) and I found it no faster then the iPhone. I found it rather hard to operate.

Yeah there is nothing easier than copying some video files from a friend's laptop in iPhone. And yeah sending a few photos via bluetooth is also very easy. I can go on and on saying stuffs like this. And you will come up the negatives of android too. But whats the point? Like someone in this topic said, both OS have their own advantages and disadvantages. But saying 99% of the malwares are because of android and Apple Store is 100% safe was stupid.

I am pretty sure the S4 is the same price as the iPhone 5...

And yes, the OS runs slopily so real world performance does differ! I would urge you to check the performance of the Samsung smartphone out at the same time Apple released the iPhone. That is right, they did not have a smartphone out!

Basic internet browsing showed no difference in speeds. Oh, and lets look like idiots and bump out pieces of plastic together.

I do not think my statement was stupid, either.

 

[Luke]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

You are one deranged man iPhonesheep. Can you please open your eyes for once and actually look at other products and not just pass them off because they aren't made by your cult leader Mr. Tim Cook?

Without iOS, android would not be very dominant or not existent today.

Thank you for proving to everyone here how much of an idiot you are. Android was made first, Android began to get made years before iOS was. So if iOS wasn't around we would have Android and it wouldn't have a younger brother trying to copy it. 😉

I would urge you to check the performance of the Samsung smartphone out at the same time Apple released the iPhone. That is right, they did not have a smartphone out!

Let's take a look at a few things. You seem to be saying that because they launched the first smartphone, they rule. Let's look at all the most successful companies. Facebook: Didn't release the first social network. Google: Wasn't the first search engine. You'll notice with most of the top companies around the world, that they weren't the first to make it. Being the first to make something mostly means you're probably going to fail at it. Other companies can take your idea, and make it better. Then another company comes and takes that companies idea and makes it even better. I think that's what we're starting to see with Apple, they're falling down the line.

Oh, and lets look like idiots and bump out pieces of plastic together.

You're going to put a cheap old plastic case on your premium iPhone, so who cares if the S4 is made out of plastic. Means you don't need a chunky case around it. And I love how the iPhone 5's were delivered to customers with skuff marks and dent marks in them due to them being made out of metal.

And if you argue with me you have no business writng any article about any product!

So you're saying because I am open minded and don't just side with one company that I shouldn't have my technology blog open? I get 300,000 pageviews per month and that's climbing. Seems as though people like my open thoughts about things iPhonesheep, otherwise I wouldn't have any pageviews at all. Apple is a great company, but others have overtaken them due to the way Apple releases products and what their actual products are. So get off your high-horse.

Notice of how Apple released the iPhone and all of the phones changed? Samsung has to pay Apple over a billion dollars for patent infringement? What do you call that on Samsung part?

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And your putting a phone that was released several months ago, and cameras are not all about Megapixels. And I doubt it smashed it.

Actually the S4 camera does smash it to pieces. The camera on an S4 is comparable to an actual camera, unlike the iPhone 5 which in camera test just lacks proper colouring.

It seems as though you're not even going to bother listening to our guys side of the stories. We're all open to Apple and don't pass something off because it wasn't made by Apple. Apple is good, Google, Samsung and Android as a whole is good, and those are taking over Apple.

Did you make sure to do this when you woke up this morning?:

 

[xpl0iter]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

OH MY GOD Mr. Iphonefreak
I can find a lot of stuffs about what's wrong with your last reply, but seeing the standard of it, I don't think its worth wasting my time.

 

[iPhonefreak]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

You are one deranged man iPhonesheep. Can you please open your eyes for once and actually look at other products and not just pass them off because they aren't made by your cult leader Mr. Tim Cook?

Without iOS, android would not be very dominant or not existent today.

Thank you for proving to everyone here how much of an idiot you are. Android was made first, Android began to get made years before iOS was. So if iOS wasn't around we would have Android and it wouldn't have a younger brother trying to copy it. 😉

I would urge you to check the performance of the Samsung smartphone out at the same time Apple released the iPhone. That is right, they did not have a smartphone out!

Let's take a look at a few things. You seem to be saying that because they launched the first smartphone, they rule. Let's look at all the most successful companies. Facebook: Didn't release the first social network. Google: Wasn't the first search engine. You'll notice with most of the top companies around the world, that they weren't the first to make it. Being the first to make something mostly means you're probably going to fail at it. Other companies can take your idea, and make it better. Then another company comes and takes that companies idea and makes it even better. I think that's what we're starting to see with Apple, they're falling down the line.

Oh, and lets look like idiots and bump out pieces of plastic together.

You're going to put a cheap old plastic case on your premium iPhone, so who cares if the S4 is made out of plastic. Means you don't need a chunky case around it. And I love how the iPhone 5's were delivered to customers with skuff marks and dent marks in them due to them being made out of metal.

And if you argue with me you have no business writng any article about any product!

So you're saying because I am open minded and don't just side with one company that I shouldn't have my technology blog open? I get 300,000 pageviews per month and that's climbing. Seems as though people like my open thoughts about things iPhonesheep, otherwise I wouldn't have any pageviews at all. Apple is a great company, but others have overtaken them due to the way Apple releases products and what their actual products are. So get off your high-horse.

Notice of how Apple released the iPhone and all of the phones changed? Samsung has to pay Apple over a billion dollars for patent infringement? What do you call that on Samsung part?

[youtube]CW0DUg63lqU[/youtube]

And your putting a phone that was released several months ago, and cameras are not all about Megapixels. And I doubt it smashed it.

Actually the S4 camera does smash it to pieces. The camera on an S4 is comparable to an actual camera, unlike the iPhone 5 which in camera test just lacks proper colouring.

It seems as though you're not even going to bother listening to our guys side of the stories. We're all open to Apple and don't pass something off because it wasn't made by Apple. Apple is good, Google, Samsung and Android as a whole is good, and those are taking over Apple.

Did you make sure to do this when you woke up this morning?:

I like being called iPhonesheep. I am not one of those people that fly to best device, team or whatever. I stay loyal. Why would I waste my time to look at other products? I buy Apple products because of my love for Steve, not for Tim, FYI. And because they are the best.

I know Android was around before then, but Apple was to the gate first, and Android was unveiled in 2007 with its first release in 2008. And a little brother trying to copy it, my ass.

But without the search engines, or social networks before then those companies would not be here. I am not stating they rule, but if the first companies were not there those other companies such as google and facebook would not.

Did you not see where the iPhone 5 was more durable then the S4? Probably didn't. There are a lot of durable cases for the iPhone, like the OttorBox and LifeProof.

Nobody has overtaken them, your silly. Apple releases its products the right way. Not one every few weeks. That is the method Samsung took. Put as many products out and hope a few stick.

I do not believe the S4 smashes it to pieces. The iPhone has replaced many peoples digital cameras and such, which I doubt that is found with Samsung users. The iPhone is the most popular cameras everywhere.

I have a thick skull and someone like you won't change my mind. And, Yes, I did do that pictures and I do it every morning. I love Steve!

 

[xpl0iter]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

Wait, I am going to write something,
- Most of the countries launched LTE in 2012, more than 50% of the countries that currently has LTE networks.
- Cameras are not all about Megapixels, say that to Nokia Lumia 925. And if you get time, please do check the camera quality of iPhone 5 and HTC One, SGS4 and Nokia Lumia 925
- Before iPhone there was Nokia with Symbian, then Symbian started loosing its grip because it didn't bring anymore innovations.
- Android is slightly the most used operating system - This argument is plain stupid. Its not slightly, its by far one of the most used mobile operating system.
Its 17.3% to android's 75.0%: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... ng_systems
- SGS4 and HTC One do run much faster than iPhone 5. Its not just benchmarks.
- Opening week sales don't tell the demand. It shows how rich and careless people, the niche specific market contains. They don't care if the iPhone 5 has any problems. Like when iPhone 4s was launched, it was having terrible network reception, but no one cared about that.
But android market is not like that, people will wait until some reviews are actually out. They will wait to find out which phone will suite them better.
- Without iOS android will have 92.3% of smart phone market share.
- Siri is an awesome product. But again, it was not developed by Apple and before the acquisition of Siri by Apple, they actually had plans to develop the same engine for both android and blackberry. Apple basically stopped this from happening. So where is the innovation from Apple in here.
-

Notice of how Apple released the iPhone and all of the phones changed? Samsung has to pay Apple over a billion dollars for patent infringement?

I would say Samsung did the same thing which Apple did years back and is still doing.
Copying the desktop concept from Xerox, copying the notification bar from android, copying the Dock from CDE and arthur OS and a lot more stuffs which I don't want to write here!

Did you not see where the iPhone 5 was more durable then the S4? Probably didn't.

See this and tell that again. : http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/galaxy- ... -50011470/

 

[iPhonefreak]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

Wait, I am going to write something,
- Most of the countries launched LTE in 2012, more than 50% of the countries that currently has LTE networks. So apple was actually quite a bit late to the scene.
- Cameras are not all about Megapixels, say that to Nokia Lumia 925. And if you get time, please do check the camera quality of iPhone 5 and HTC One, SGS4 and Nokia Lumia 925
- Before iPhone there was Nokia with Symbian, then Symbian started loosing its grip because it didn't bring anymore innovations.
- Android is slightly the most used operating system - This argument is plain stupid. Its not slightly, its by far one of the most used mobile operating system.
Its 17.3% to android's 75.0%: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... ng_systems
- SGS4 and HTC One do run much faster than iPhone 5. Its not just benchmarks.
- Opening week sales don't tell the demand. It shows how rich and careless people, the niche specific market contains. They don't care if the iPhone 5 has any problems. Like when iPhone 4s was launched, it was having terrible network reception, but no one cared about that.
But android market is not like that, people will wait until some reviews are actually out. They will wait to find out which phone will suite them better.
- Without iOS android will have 92.3% of smart phone market share.
- Siri is an awesome product. But again, it was not developed by Apple and before the acquisition of Siri by Apple, they actually had plans to develop the same engine for both android and blackberry. Apple basically stopped this from happening. So where is the innovation from Apple in here.
-

Notice of how Apple released the iPhone and all of the phones changed? Samsung has to pay Apple over a billion dollars for patent infringement?

I would say Samsung did the same thing which Apple did years back and is still doing.
Copying the desktop concept from Xerox, copying the notification bar from android, copying the Dock from CDE and arthur OS and a lot more stuffs which I don't want to write here!

1) You did not read it right, they had LTE but it was not deployed enough to make it useful. Apple waited till consumers could use it.
2) I will say it to the Lumia. It is not all about Megapixels!
3) That is not accurate at all. At all.
4)I tested the S4 the other day and I did not find it any faster. Keep in mind those devices are running 4 cores at around 1.9GHz, but yet it barely (or in my case, does not ) beat apple
5)The iPhone 4 was a piece of beauty people are just now catching up with. So you can say the upper class, more sophisticated, smart class uses iPhone? And Android is for poor people?
6) I doubt that, again.
7) Apple acquired it, companies acquire things.
8) Xerox is basically your free forum software. In this example, it is phpbb. So say a forum with a billion posts and a million members are on it, but it is because the hard work of that owner, and whatever. You would not call that copying.

Android and especially Samsung stole patented material.

And last but not the least, with Apple, your supporting an American company with american executives. With Samsung, your supporting a foreign product and foreign executives.<br /><br />-- Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:11 pm --<br /><br />And see this and say that it isn;t again..

http://bgr.com/2013/04/29/samsung-galax ... st-473030/

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/463205/2 ... y-more.htm

http://insanemobiles.net/iphone-5-prove ... -drop-test

http://www.zdnet.com/samsung-galaxy-s4- ... 000014663/

 

[tippie]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

I guess people really hate every other device then, huh? Apple sold 5M iPhone 5's on the first weekend, and it took Samsung a whole month to sell 10M. I highly do not think the 5 is like all of the others, do you? Your the tech blogger, so you should know that it is not.

I been an iPhone user since 2007 and I must say the iPhone 5 doesn't feel like a "brick" anymore.
That's the only feeling I got when I upgraded from the 4s to 5.
My gf has the 4s now and it feels very big when you're used to the "bigger" iphones.