Are Social Justice Warriors annoying? (SJWs)

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Well, they can be! :bored: However, though, when reasonable and toned down they have done a lot of good in society. Anyway, the argument from the cultural right is that they've gone bonkers and also their philosophy has made society soft - something they see as very bad.
 
No.

Those who make us fight amongst ourselves are annoying.

They're also dangerous.

Let people be coloured, gay, bi, pan, queer, female, trans, whatever. Get over yourself. Then go destroy the fatcats who've been relishing in your squabbling.
 
Let people be coloured, gay, bi, pan, queer, female, trans, whatever. Get over yourself. Then go destroy the fatcats who've been relishing in your squabbling.
I don't think you understand what the problem with SJW is. They exist solely to "speak" for the "voiceless." Sort-of a vigilante. You know you're not supposed to assault or murder someone, but you do it anyway to save people who can't help themselves - that's vigilante. Same applies here, if you see like, a white man being racist to a black man - this is where SJW interject themselves. The problem with this is - they do this to anything, everything, and for any reason whatsoever. They want to be a "superhero" for the voiceless. However, they destroy everything they talk about, and touch.

SJW's are responsible for making a woman's life going to hell (GamerGate). They are the reason why threats are a thing. It's a thing. So, they're not at all innocent.

In the Video Game world, if a game has political themes, it's controversial to SJW's. If the game has a woman as a character in a game, it's controversial to SJW's. If a game has jokes (no, I'm serious, that IS a thing), it's controversial to these SJW's. Most of this "feedback" for games are overblown, over saturated, to the point of drowning out legitimate feedback from players. So, EA and other companies assumes that the flack that a game gets, won't sell.

Here are some videos you should watch to understand what's going on...

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And MY ABSOLUTE favorite. Listen to what the guy says... Bullseye, and it's exactly what I've been saying since SJW's were coined...

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I only hear about these people on Tumblr, as I heard that place is really oversaturated with them. That's all I know.
 
I only hear about these people on Tumblr, as I heard that place is really oversaturated with them. That's all I know.
It's on Twitter, too. Facebook has them, but they don't really use hashtags or their own search engine properly, or you really have to have a friend that's stupid enough to pander to SJW's.
 
I think SJWs can go a bit overboard sometimes. Recently at a university near me, a restaurant on campus was shut down by the student group after the operator posted a help wanted ad that jokingly said they need are hiring "a new slave (full time staff member) to boss (mentor)". https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ont...-cafe-after-joke-about-hiring-slave-1.3206994

SJWs may be trying to do positive things but it's ridiculous overreactions over harmless stuff like this that give them a bad name.
 
I think SJWs can go a bit overboard sometimes. Recently at a university near me, a restaurant on campus was shut down by the student group after the operator posted a help wanted ad that jokingly said they need are hiring "a new slave (full time staff member) to boss (mentor)". https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ont...-cafe-after-joke-about-hiring-slave-1.3206994

SJWs may be trying to do positive things but it's ridiculous overreactions over harmless stuff like this that give them a bad name.

Well, that's going to get your in trouble with blacks - cause that obviously couldn't be a joke - and we're not ignoring the fact hippies said it!

SJWs may be trying to do positive things but it's ridiculous overreactions over harmless stuff like this that give them a bad name.

OK, so what are these SJW hypocrites going to pay the slave? Is it going to be a fast food wage SJWs hate so much?

In the Video Game world, if a game has political themes, it's controversial to SJW's. If the game has a woman as a character in a game, it's controversial to SJW's. If a game has jokes (no, I'm serious, that IS a thing), it's controversial to these SJW's. Most of this "feedback" for games are overblown, over saturated, to the point of drowning out legitimate feedback from players. So, EA and other companies assumes that the flack that a game gets, won't sell.

If SJWs are offended by games, they shouldn't buy them. Anyway, this stuff distracts from from real hate crimes - stuff that should concern SJWs.
 
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If SJWs are offended by games, they shouldn't buy them. Anyway, this stuff distracts from from real hate crimes - stuff that should concern SJWs.
Exactly!
I would consider face to face harassment to be worth a fight, but SJWs attack movies, games etc..
My point, exactly.

I'm all for disrupting racism, hate crimes, and sexist crap, but SJW's make everything worse than what they intended. Worse.

There's good people, there's bad people, there's worse people, and then there's toxic. SJW's are in the "toxic" realm as of right now, eventually everyone is going to tire of them and not give a shit anymore.
 
I think SJWs can go a bit overboard sometimes. Recently at a university near me, a restaurant on campus was shut down by the student group after the operator posted a help wanted ad that jokingly said they need are hiring "a new slave (full time staff member) to boss (mentor)". https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ont...-cafe-after-joke-about-hiring-slave-1.3206994

SJWs may be trying to do positive things but it's ridiculous overreactions over harmless stuff like this that give them a bad name.
That joke is in extremely poor taste, even if not intended to be offensive.
That's not something any business should be putting up, it's just basic public relations.

It's just so... cringeworthy.
 
I think SJWs can go a bit overboard sometimes. Recently at a university near me, a restaurant on campus was shut down by the student group after the operator posted a help wanted ad that jokingly said they need are hiring "a new slave (full time staff member) to boss (mentor)". https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ont...-cafe-after-joke-about-hiring-slave-1.3206994

SJWs may be trying to do positive things but it's ridiculous overreactions over harmless stuff like this that give them a bad name.
That joke is in extremely poor taste, even if not intended to be offensive.
That's not something any business should be putting up, it's just basic public relations.

It's just so... cringeworthy.

Sounds more stupid to me and obviously it backfires. But this isn't nothing compared to Bill Maher's remark about house Negroes.
 
Like fantanoice said SJWs are dangerous. Carlos X provided some very good examples.

But for more... have you ever heard of Justine Sacco or Gregory Allan Elliott? Probably not. But these are two people who's lives were ruined by social justice warriors. In Elliott's case it was because he disagreed with sending a hate mob to destroy someone's life and so the person he disagreed with went to police and had him charged with criminal harassment. Which he was later deemed not guilty of.
For Sacco, she tweeted a joke before she got on a flight to Africa. The joke was in poor taste and not thought out well... but people didn't care. While she was in flight (and had her phone off) people caught the tweet and worked to have her fired. People were waiting in anticipation for the fallout (a hashtag had formed to watch and see if she had landed yet). When she got off the plane and turned on her phone she discovered all that had transpired.

These cases are far from the only ones. There are, sadly, quite a few more.

Truth is that social justice warriors are not doing anything useful. They claim to fight for the voiceless and marginalized. But they don't. There was an excellent piece posted on breitbart (author unknown) that stated this...
We are fighting to end hate, to unite as one and love each other. We are fighting to be treated right without discrimination and for everyone to have equal opportunities.

Bullshit. You have no quantifiable metrics for injustice, so you have no victory conditions (for a very simplified example, when blacks hold X% of all engineering jobs and are only Y% of all prisoners, racism is ended). That would be fine by itself, but you believe in fighting injustice with injustice (gays have historically been denied gay marriage? let’s get random CEOs fired for opinions they held six years ago). You don’t seek converts, you seek to punish and bully – straight white males who disagree with you must be purged and publicly humiliated. Even the jihadists will spare you if you convert; no apology or future correction will satisfy a SJW.



I could forgive that too if you weren’t all hypocrites and liars. Your treatment of women and minority dissenters is appalling; if they don’t want you acting on their behalf, that’s their choice, not “internalized patriarchy” or whatever. You rob them of moral agency. When called out for these behaviors (as you always insist on calling out others), you lie. You strawman your opponents (criticized a woman? misogynist!), you group them with the worst (you’re a gamer? you’re as bad as the anonymous rape threateners!) and when confronted with your own flaws, you restate them less threateningly (motte and bailey argument). You phrase all arguments as kafkatraps (disagreeing with your assertion that we are evil is taken as proof that we’re evil). You publish manipulated and misleading statistics, then lambast anyone who questions them.

You insist on vigilante justice against random acts of the week for your two-minutes hate. Why is it the NFL’s business to punish domestic violence? And, if it is their business, why isn’t Hope Solo receiving the same attention from your side?

Then you claim to be arguing for equality, but you’ve taken the idea of racism (hatred based on skin color is bad) and replaced it with a new concept where only one race can be guilty of racism. You excuse racial prejudice and hatred based on what I’ve already explained are arbitrary, unmeasured states of being. Your solution for the unequal treatment of whites and blacks is to hold whites to a higher standard. Your side lobbied the FBI to redefine rape so more women victims would be counted, but also so that “made to penetrate” does not count, leaving male victims in the cold. Because male privilege, apparently.

Historically ignorant SJWs think whites hold collective guilt for the awful things our ancestors have done. But they don’t care about the unspeakable atrocities by other races. The only difference between whites and others was that whites had the social and technological prowess to do evil efficiently; Africans, Asians, Indians, and everyone else practiced genocide and slavery, they were just less adept at doing it right. Given the means, they would have done the same. But nope, only whites are guilty; Arab oppression of blacks and caucasians never happened, not to us, nope.

I’ve been lucky enough to grow up in America, so this shit is new to me. But I’m descended from puritans, and I know my history; I know how they treated dissent. I also know how commies treated dissent; I grew up next door to a grizzled old Russian who barely avoided the gulag by smuggling himself out of the country. I know what you petty tyrants have turned into every time you gained enough power.

Worst of all, you turn the very principles of freedom against us. We tolerate you because we believe in free speech and civil discourse, not bullying and violence. But that means we have to watch you advocate against that very freedom. We don’t believe in ruining a stranger’s professional life over an opinion, but that means that we can’t punish your actions.

We believe that the rightness of our actions should speak for itself. You believe in bullying, even as you claim to love the oppressed.

Funny how the evil and all-powerful patriarchy has seen fit to act according to SJW whims for all of recent memory, punishing those they hate and protecting those they love. Funny how the evil oppressor males have to speak anonymously, while the SJWs fighting the power can use their real names and get mainstream media coverage for fun and profit. How when a million straight white male nerds get bullied, no one cares, but the minute one fag hangs himself, suddenly bullying matters – and the solution, of course, is more bullying, but by the “right” people.

That’s the arrogant core of it. You do the same evil, in the same pattern, as so many before you, because mob justice, punishing dissent, and repression of others is just fine and dandy so long as the “right” people are doing it to the “wrong” people.

Eat shit and die. All I ever asked was to be left alone.

On the upside though, despite how bleak it may seem... SJWs are actually a relatively small (though exceptionally vocal) group. Most people do not agree with them. I mean you can see from every major example where SJWs are involved it's usually only a few of them complaining where everyone else is ok. (They just make it seem like they're larger number than what they are by how loud they protest. Plus some use duplicate accounts to bolster ranks.) If we want to stop them though we have to refuse to give into their crap. The whole shaming tactic of calling someone a racist/sexist/whatever only works if the person being called that cares. If they don't care (because they know they're not, and others can plainly see by how they actually behave) then SJWs lose their power. The other thing to stop SJWs... never apologise. An apology to a SJW is a sign to press the attack. (We've seen this in cases like with Sir Tim Hunt.)
 
Truth is that social justice warriors are not doing anything useful. They claim to fight for the voiceless and marginalized. But they don't. There was an excellent piece posted on breitbart (author unknown) that stated this...

Well, the thing that's a billion times worse - is they're still are racists who harass people face-to-face (as in incredible verbal harassment, bullying, breaking the law even) - lot of them! However SJWs are so concentrated on changing society, in general, that they're wasting all their resources!
 
No.

Those who make us fight amongst ourselves are annoying.

They're also dangerous.

Let people be coloured, gay, bi, pan, queer, female, trans, whatever. Get over yourself. Then go destroy the fatcats who've been relishing in your squabbling.

I think a big problem is that each group is trying to push their "poop" on the other group. I mean, if people want to be misfit, then fine, and also if people want to indulge in un-PC video games.

I mean, think about it. SJWs are preachy and bossy - but so are Christians who hate gays.
 
Huh, when I read your post I thought you meant that SJWs were dangerous because their insistence on identity politics divides people.

So then do you believe that social justice warriors do something useful/helpful? (I just want to be clear on it.)
 
Huh, when I read your post I thought you meant that SJWs were dangerous because their insistence on identity politics divides people.

So then do you believe that social justice warriors do something useful/helpful? (I just want to be clear on it.)


Well, it was SJW vagina-bags (sarcasm) who ended stuff like racial segregation. And of course, I'm sure back then, SJWs were met with the same hate and names.
 
I think SJWs can go a bit overboard sometimes. Recently at a university near me, a restaurant on campus was shut down by the student group after the operator posted a help wanted ad that jokingly said they need are hiring "a new slave (full time staff member) to boss (mentor)". https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ont...-cafe-after-joke-about-hiring-slave-1.3206994

SJWs may be trying to do positive things but it's ridiculous overreactions over harmless stuff like this that give them a bad name.
That joke is in extremely poor taste, even if not intended to be offensive.
That's not something any business should be putting up, it's just basic public relations.

It's just so... cringeworthy.

Okay, so the joke is not funny. At least, you don't find the joke funny. Does that mean the restaurant should be shut down? Over a bad joke, that wasn't intended to be offensive... isn't that a huge overreaction?
 
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