Can vBulletin ever recover from it's negative reputation?

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Ever since Internet Brands acquired vBulletin Solutions, it's reputation has gone nothing but downhill. Many vBulletin customers have since moved to IPB, and XenForo when it was released because of just how great it is, and not to mentioned Kier who was the lead developer of vBulletin and Mike who was also a vBulletin developer, are the guys now behind Xenforo.

Many people are disappointed with vBulletin, and its reputation has gone from being the best to now the worst, do you guys think vBulletin can ever recover?
 
Re: Can vBulletin ever recover from it's negative reputation

Anything is possible. Perhaps time could get the bad taste out of everyone's mouth but they'd have to produce a product that is pretty amazing to fully recover.
 
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I still use vBulletin and the reason I haven't changed is because I'm not a technical person and I'd prefer not to have to learn how to admin a new forum software from scratch. I feel that the people behind vBulletin have completely disrespected and taken advantage of their paying clients.

In my opinion what VB need to do is to apologise to their customers, admit that they have made mistakes and show that they are serious about moving forward in a way that delivers value to their customers. However, I'm not sure that it will ever happen.
 
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I suppose they could change the way people think but it'd take time like Theezy said. I'd never use vB though because it can look quite bad some times and other paid solutions such as IPB are much, much better. It'd take time but I suppose it could.
 
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Since when was vBulletin considered the best? That's an opinion, you can't state an opinion in the form of a fact. vBulletin has always been terrible in my opinion, it's bloated and like walking in a kitchen with 15 different coloured cooking spatulas when you really only need one or two.
 
Re: Can vBulletin ever recover from it's negative reputation

Absolutely! I think they just have to do something that everyone will love in a future update.
 
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Gamrpro said:
Absolutely! I think they just have to do something that everyone will love in a future update.

Which hasn't already been done by another forum softwa-... Too late.
 
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The Elite said:
Since when was vBulletin considered the best? That's an opinion, you can't state an opinion in the form of a fact. vBulletin has always been terrible in my opinion, it's bloated and like walking in a kitchen with 15 different coloured cooking spatulas when you really only need one or two.
No need to be so critical, I can't see where he states it is a fact.
 
Re: Can vBulletin ever recover from it's negative reputation

No they will not, Its like Sony will never recover from the hack. No body trusts them.
 
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User500 said:
No they will not, Its like Sony will never recover from the hack. No body trusts them.
Pretty sure everyone has forgotten about that by now.
 
Re: Can vBulletin ever recover from it's negative reputation

I actually never knew that. I've always trusted Sony.
 
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To be honest Vbulletin still has the chance to fix things. It still has a large client base and is still making money despite all of this, obviously sales will have dropped but Vbulletin cant be expected to blend into the background. It has been a huge part of what has shaped the internet to how it is today and im pretty sure in a few months time when vb has fixed things up people who were all like "i hate vbulletin" (Usually the one's who have never even used it) will be saying vbulletin is nice or whatever. Im never ruling vbulletin out of future options of forum software for use with new projects, i own a license and i hate wasting things so when i believe vbulletin has sorted out their act and the forum software i will most probably make use of the license. I switched my forum to XenForo not because all the groupies kissing xf ass and telling everyone it's the next best thing since chocolate spread but because we were using it and we had several problems, random database errors ( 🙁 ), spambot armys, slow loading, heavy resource usage.. and more so i had to look at my other options, i had a spare xf license and decided to try it and well it sat comfortably on my forum so we are using that 🙂

But vbulletin will regain it's reputation, without a shadow of a doubt. It has been here for years shaping the interwebz and it will be for several more.
 
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User500 said:
No they will not, Its like Sony will never recover from the hack. No body trusts them.
Sony will recover. This happens to every company. No one is perfectly secure and if someone is that pressed to hack you, you're going to get hacked eventually.
 
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VBulletin is not bad, but the actual thing is that phpBB and MyBB are extremely better, while vBulletin offer awesome support, awesome updates and features very bad themes and very high price, while they don't offer support for people that make modifications on their own and they don't even give enough support for people making custom themes. phpBB and myBB offer awesome support, awesome themes, awesome modifications and offering easier ways to edit the software itself and it's completely for free.

195$ are extremely much for a vBulletin forum with that features in compare with other softwares...
 
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agentmanningctu said:
User500 said:
No they will not, Its like Sony will never recover from the hack. No body trusts them.
Sony will recover. This happens to every company. No one is perfectly secure and if someone is that pressed to hack you, you're going to get hacked eventually.
+1 to this as you can see here - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/09 ... ck_attack/ A huge credit card company has gotten hacked. Anyone can and probably will be hacked if the hacker is that devoted. As I have said several times before, nothing can be 100% secure.
 
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The Elite said:
Since when was vBulletin considered the best? That's an opinion, you can't state an opinion in the form of a fact....
It wasn't stated as a fact, Kaiser said "its reputation has gone from being the best". This is actually true, it did have a reputation of being the best amongst many forum users. Obviously there were others who believed that IPB and others were the best.
 
Re: Can vBulletin ever recover from it's negative reputation

Complete system redo.

When something makes a huge change (like Twitter for example) it got blown up because the new layout and structure was amazing.
 
Re: Can vBulletin ever recover from it's negative reputation

While I am a firm believer of the phrase, "time heals all wounds" I'm not sure that VB will ever recover from its bad reputation. Unless they find a way to change their way of doing things and FAST, especially by not rushing with their next release all the time, then perhaps they can recover from their bad rep. However, they've been bad enough to where people were switching from them to IPB or Xeneforo, and they've also made national headlines because of their security flaws, so as of right now I see no hope for these guys' future, but like what was said before, you never can tell.
 
Re: Can vBulletin ever recover from it's negative reputation

Yes I think vBulletin will get better and better after they apologize.
 
Re: Can vBulletin ever recover from it's negative reputation

Bart Simpson said:
Yes I think vBulletin will get better and better after they apologize.

That is IF they apologize! How many people will forgive them since they've been causing trouble for this long though? I know it would take me a while to forgive them for what they did.
 
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