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I'm just wondering what your opinions on censorship are. Are people ever to young to understand certain topics? Can certain films, books and video games be truly seen to be damaging? (pornographic, violent etc).

If to many people have the same opinion, I'll just play the Devil's Advocate!
 
The only thing that should be censored is child pornography.

Nothing needs to be censored on television or the internet. It's not the governments responsibility to protect your children from that type of content, it's yours as the parent.
 
Irviding said:
Nothing needs to be censored on television or the internet. It's not the governments responsibility to protect your children from that type of content, it's yours as the parent.
Lmao, that's completely true.

I believe that you should just follow the ratings of the show/book/etc that you watch/read to understand if it's PG rated, PG-13 Related, Restricted, etc. Censorship nowadays means nothing.
There are many other things that are sexual-related, but uncensored such as a man and woman making out on the beach in a movie, or some kind of woman-on-woman makeout section in part of a small scene of a movie. Breast-feeding has become public, having sex in front of your window is tolerated, and sensual rubbing and touching in public is fine. There are many more things to list, but it's just too much.
 
Censorship is stupid, they censor out fuck in family guy even though it's on at about 11pm usually and is a 15 -roll-.

I do think to an extent censorship is needed (until before 9pm) then I don't think it should matter whats on TV.

I also watched a show quite recently which was Panorama and it was about swearing on TV. The person who runs ITV (I think) said that he swore like a chimney. Surely TV should reflect real life to an extent and he seems hypocritical for putting censorship in programmes.
 
Rok: Our Conservative American friend here is saying the government shouldn't even rate the mediums of film and music.

I personally agree. Why should people you don't know, will never meet, you'd probably hate, and are shifty as a tinker in a junkyard, make decisions on what is appropriate for this certain kind of age group or individuals as a whole? It's absolutely ludacris because your judgement of the world is naturally different to theirs, and when you start buying into their judgements you replace yours with theirs.

We gotta protect our minds. Fascism just doesn't come into your home with guns and throw you in jails.
 
There is a need for it on television and radio when overly vulgar content or explicit sex is involved as any child could easily tune into it.
But I think its out of control on forums on the internet. I see forums locking and deleting threads left and right for nothing more than the specific wording of a post, etc.
One of my favorite quotes:
"if everyone erased everything that offends them in this world, there would be nothing left to erase and no one left to erase it."

People are entitled to their opinions and not everything should be locked or deleted just because others are offended by it.
If someone is offended by someone wearing blue signature and avatar images do we remove those? If a small group of people decide that the word "hello" is a derogatory hate term. Do we ban that as well? Its getting ridiculous.
 
Unfortunately thats the way of the world, humans trying hard to be human.
Trying (sometimes to hard) to put the world to rights...
I think that compassion should come into play a little bit...after all, would you condone a pedophile's opinion as ok?? Or would you be offended.
Its a fine line of what should be concieved as who and what opinions should be voiced.
 
I do agree with radio and television programs censored vulgar or sexual language and content - awkward questions from children and a huge amount of embarrassment for parents would result. You don't want your children to grow up too fast.
 
Some form of censorship is required in my opionon. I have two small kids and do want them exposed to certain language and actions. Yes, they will pick up some language at school, but they deserve to be innocent for as long as possible others the whole thrill of being a kids is lost.

In the UK the 'watershed' is 9pm and that is fine. After this time I don't care what is on as it is up to me to make sure they are in bed.

I would love to have more censorship when it comes to Saturday morning TV. There should be no toy adverts allowed on the TV at this point!!

Songs on the radio can be annoying, depending on where you live. In the UK they edit them. In Germany they just play the whole song and it can be really annoying when you are in the car taking the kids to school and all of a sudden 50 cent comes on the radio f'ing and blinding - not good for a 4 and 6 year old to hear.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Irviding said:
The only thing that should be censored is child pornography.

Nothing needs to be censored on television or the internet. It's not the governments responsibility to protect your children from that type of content, it's yours as the parent.

I agree here.
 
Not much of a way around it really, whats OK for some is not OK for others. Parents do actually need to take responsibility for their kids and stop expecting governments to do it for them.

I am not convinced video games turn people into killers, they must have been pre-disposed to this in the first place, but again how many parents do not know what their kids watch or play?

As for adults, there is an OFF button you know.
 
Parents need to take responsibility? When a 12 year old has his or her parents buying them R rated material for them, then they need to take responsibility. Just because one R rated movie had a few f-bombs, it doesn't mean they all will. Censorship sucks all around the world, but it's worst in the U.S. The only movies that are given NC-17 ratings are those that are pornographic or severely sexually explicit. Movies with 300 f-words and graphic, brutal violence are given R ratings, as are movies with 5 f-words and one or two sexual references.

When the parents can take responsibility, then they should take responsibility. It's not always the fault of the parents, which is something that many people fail to understand. If you're walking to the shops with your daughter, and you briefly pass a group of teenagers swearing and cursing like troopers, what can you do? Most people walk faster. You can't just turn it off. That isn't possible.

What disgusts me is newsagents that display magazines of a sexual nature with the rest of them. Newsagents stands in shopping centres too - even though you're just passing by, young children are exposed to that, if even briefly. Also when magazines decide to make their headline about a sex tape, or radio stations like to talk about these things at any time of day.

Irviding said:
The only thing that should be censored is child pornography.

Nothing needs to be censored on television or the internet. It's not the governments responsibility to protect your children from that type of content, it's yours as the parent.
Bullshit. So TV shows are allowed to show pornographic films at any time of day? If you were to search almost any seemingly innocent term into Google Images and turn safe search off, there are many things that shouldn't be there, irrelevant and disgusting. This should all be allowed through the filter, into the eyes of everyone? I think not.

Rokalyptica said:
Breast-feeding has become public, having sex in front of your window is tolerated, and sensual rubbing and touching in public is fine. There are many more things to list, but it's just too much.
Again, bullshit. I have seen breast-feeding in shopping centres a few times before, but that can't be helped, can it? Also, woman who breast-feed in public have enough self respect so to not show anything, and be very careful about it. Get your facts straight. Having sex in front of your window is never tolerated. Once again, people should have enough self respect (and they usually do), and you would only see enough for it to be considered explicit if you were standing right outside the window. Sensual rubbing and touching - elaborate, please.

If you want to say it's fine for people to kiss in public, go for it. It was fine for people to kiss in public 70 years ago, within reason. Do you have any idea how strong censorship was 70 years ago? In film, if a woman was lying in a bed, then man had to have both feet on the floor. Otherwise it was considered rude and inappropriate.

Rokalyptica said:
There are many other things that are sexual-related, but uncensored such as a man and woman making out on the beach in a movie, or some kind of woman-on-woman makeout section in part of a small scene of a movie.
For your first point, please refer to the last paragraph. Mine is a fact, yours isn't. And I've got a question in response to your second statement - have you EVER seen a lesbian kiss in a G-rated movie?. That's a rhetorical question.

People are too young to understand certain topics. A 4 year old will not understand rape, murder or even death of pets until they're much older, but the first two are always in the news. In a movie, the mention of rape brings about a PG rating at the least. The News comes without a rating. Ponder that.

If forums deal with issues like these, implement COPPA. If someone says they're 13 when they're not, then they are a liar. They should be ashamed of themselves. If you want something deleted on a forum, more than one voice must be heard. You may be offended if someone doesn't like your graphics, but nobody else would be.

Sbfc said:
Censorship is stupid, they censor out **** in family guy even though it's on at about 11pm usually and is a 15 :roll:.
This may be news to you, but fuck is a swear word. The use of fuck will bring about a PG-13 at the least, and there are children younger than 13 that are up past 9pm. I've seen Family Guy on TV as early as 8:30, so I think I blew your 11pm statement out of the water.

I fear what censorship will be like in 2050.
 
Lol, I know fuck is a swear word... though censorship has gone too far, and in the UK at least the earliest it is on is at 10PM. Don't see why a swear word at that time should be filtered out :|
 
I think that its up to the parents to decide wether or not their child can or cant watch or use something due to age restrictions.
 
Sbfc said:
Lol, I know **** is a swear word... though censorship has gone too far, and in the UK at least the earliest it is on is at 10PM. Don't see why a swear word at that time should be filtered out :|
Censorship hasn't gone too far.

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
That's a quote from a 1939 movie. Back then, 'damn' was considered a very profane word (more than fuck is considered profane today). The actor executing the line wasn't allowed to put any emphasis on the word, or else the censorship office would jump on their back.

And in today's society, you think censorship has gone too far? I know that censorship is too lenient.
 
Let's play a game. The next user to even remotely insult, degrade, or malign another in this thread will be immediately issued a chill out ban.

Consider this your warning.
 
I didn't intend to insult anybody, I intended to debate my point.
 
In writing this post, I am going to refer to my ethnic heritage and respond to your statement with a question.

What the heck makes you think I was speaking to you?
 
Irviding said:
The only thing that should be censored is child pornography.

Nothing needs to be censored on television or the internet. It's not the governments responsibility to protect your children from that type of content, it's yours as the parent.
+1 to this.. I find parents nowadays are being way to light on their kids... Just cause of a possible case of abuse or anything related...
that is for another topic though.
 
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