Child Detention

[agentmanningctu]

If you think laws only apply to those who "understand what they did was wrong", you are seriously flawed in your judgement. That would mean foreigners are exempt. Also, I could just forge a few documents and plead that I didn't know what I was doing.

Ignorance is NEVER an excuse.

 

[Jonathan]

If you think laws only apply to those who "understand what they did was wrong", you are seriously flawed in your judgement. That would mean foreigners are exempt. Also, I could just forge a few documents and plead that I didn't know what I was doing.

Ignorance is NEVER an excuse.

No, I'm saying there's no point of enforcing a law to someone who didn't understand what they were doing. e.g. someone who doesn't have the mental capacity, is mentally retarded or just isn't old enough. Not if they don't know the language. It defeats the point of crime and punishment in the first place - to punish people, in order to stop them re offending.

 

[katy perry is hot]

I agree with cosmic (no I am not high or drunk or being payed to do as such).

Nowadays, parents do not discipline children properly anymore. Go to a target or something, look at how out of control kids are. They run around and knock stuff over and scream and the parent will just sit there and do nothing. If it were me with my parents, I'd have gotten slapped. Further, you can't jail a child who did something wrong at age 10 until age 30 or something. You just can't. What these children need is mental rehabilitation, not being incarcerated... though one can make the same rumor for some adult offenders.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

What these children need is mental rehabilitation, not being incarcerated... though one can make the same rumor for some adult offenders.

I completely agree. Some people, especially children, just need help.

 

[David]

Sending them to a mental institution is probably the right thing to do. Sending them to a prison with thugs and people who have unlawful intentions will probably turn that child into one. Letting them go is morally unjust for the other party involved.

Also, it's always case by case. If this kid has intentions or motives and had the opportunity to do so, regardless of sound mind or not, their intentions were to kill then they have committed murder. Since the murder charges are only applicable to over 13 for juvenile detention and over 18 for adult charges, the only sensible thing is to send them to a mental institution to be assessed and hopefully transformed.

 

[Cosmic]

To those who say children should be exempt because they are not of mental capacity, many kids on the border run drugs because they are too young to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Many kids know they are protected and abuse this. Also many grown-ups abuse it as well by making children into criminals.

 

[Jonathan]

To those who say children should be exempt because they are not of mental capacity, many kids on the border run drugs because they are too young to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Many kids know they are protected and abuse this. Also many grown-ups abuse it as well by making children into criminals.

I think to judge a child's willingness to commit a crime he/she knows is wrong, they should be observed by a psychiatrist. You're right, you couldn't believe them if they told you they didn't have the mental capacity.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Immunity? No. Again I find myself agreeing with Cosmic (kill me)

However, treating every child like an adult is not the way to go. Have them examined by a psychiatrist. They can tell if the child was intent on murder and if he was thinking correctly.

 

[Cosmic]

Immunity? No. Again I find myself agreeing with Cosmic (kill me)

However, treating every child like an adult is not the way to go. Have them examined by a psychiatrist. They can tell if the child was intent on murder and if he was thinking correctly.

We do that with adults already, don't we?

 

[Jonathan]

Immunity? No. Again I find myself agreeing with Cosmic (kill me)

However, treating every child like an adult is not the way to go. Have them examined by a psychiatrist. They can tell if the child was intent on murder and if he was thinking correctly.

We do that with adults already, don't we?

I'm not actually entirely sure how often we do that.

 

[Grumpy]

The question is, what would you have done (if you had control over their punishments) in this situation?

Kill him.

I have to say, plus rep for that, I totally agree with you.

 

[Cosmic]

A LOT of murderers make the insanity defense, which would save them from death row and wind them up in a mental institution.

 

[katy perry is hot]

A LOT of murderers make the insanity defense, which would save them from death row and wind them up in a mental institution.

Real life isn't a TV show. Generally, murderers who make the insanity defense, and the court finds them insane, are generally infact, insane.

 

[Jonathan]

The question is, what would you have done (if you had control over their punishments) in this situation?

Kill him.

I have to say, plus rep for that, I totally agree with you.

Why kill a mentally ill child?

 

[Cosmic]

A LOT of murderers make the insanity defense, which would save them from death row and wind them up in a mental institution.

Real life isn't a TV show. Generally, murderers who make the insanity defense, and the court finds them insane, are generally infact, insane.

But my point is that most murderers (at least adults) will probably get analysed by a psychiatrist to see if they are, in fact, insane. Not sure if they do this with kids, but I agree that they should. Regardless, as I said, if a kid does not have a sense of right and wrong, it should be beaten into them.

 

[katy perry is hot]

A LOT of murderers make the insanity defense, which would save them from death row and wind them up in a mental institution.

Real life isn't a TV show. Generally, murderers who make the insanity defense, and the court finds them insane, are generally infact, insane.

But my point is that most murderers (at least adults) will probably get analysed by a psychiatrist to see if they are, in fact, insane. Not sure if they do this with kids, but I agree that they should. Regardless, as I said, if a kid does not have a sense of right and wrong, it should be beaten into them.

Um? Are you insane? We don't randomly beat children anymore. Slapping a kid gently is the farthest I'm willing to support. How about you sit down with a child as a compassionate adult and teach them? Or nah, just beat the living shit out of them??

 

[Cosmic]

That was metaphorical. Sending them to some form of correctional facility is one form of "beating what's right and wrong" into them.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

That was metaphorical. Sending them to some form of correctional facility is one form of "beating what's right and wrong" into them.

I question the effectiveness of incarceration. Other developed countries have much lower prison populations per capita and less crime. A lot of those states have also abolished the death penalty.

Everyone can be helped. It's just that most people would rather see criminals locked up forever than see them get the help they desperately need.

 

[Grumpy]

If you take a life, you should be prepared to give your life. Regardless of your mental state or whatever, this is what I believe, and nothing will ever change that.