Cigarettes
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naughtymonkey
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Re: cigerate
There is some what of a loop whole in the system with cigretts (at least in the U.S.) You have to be 18 to buy them but if you are 16 and have them and smoking the cops can do nothing about it.
There is some what of a loop whole in the system with cigretts (at least in the U.S.) You have to be 18 to buy them but if you are 16 and have them and smoking the cops can do nothing about it.
Re: cigerate
Nevermind an Age limit, the sale of Cigarettes and Smoking in general ought to be banned altogether.
It's highly unfair that that non-smoking members of the public such as myself have to inhale cigarette smoke whilst walking down the high street. I wouldn't mind so much if it were only one or two people who smoked, but the truth of the matter is, almost everybody you walk past these days has a lit cigarette in their hands.
The government made a brilliant decision last year by banning smoking within enclosed public places, but this isn't enough. Smoking is a health risk to those who do it. What really upsets me is that non-smoking members of the public are putting their health at risk by something simple as walking down the street.
I don't want to hear all this "if you don't want to breathe it in, don't go outside" crap, because at the end of the day, i should have the right to walk down the street without putting my personal health at risk. ~mad~
Nevermind an Age limit, the sale of Cigarettes and Smoking in general ought to be banned altogether.
It's highly unfair that that non-smoking members of the public such as myself have to inhale cigarette smoke whilst walking down the high street. I wouldn't mind so much if it were only one or two people who smoked, but the truth of the matter is, almost everybody you walk past these days has a lit cigarette in their hands.
The government made a brilliant decision last year by banning smoking within enclosed public places, but this isn't enough. Smoking is a health risk to those who do it. What really upsets me is that non-smoking members of the public are putting their health at risk by something simple as walking down the street.
I don't want to hear all this "if you don't want to breathe it in, don't go outside" crap, because at the end of the day, i should have the right to walk down the street without putting my personal health at risk. ~mad~
dynastygal
Up-and-Coming Sensation
Re: cigerate
I agree with christian, it should be banned outright. The latest ban in the UK isn't enforced when it concerns 'enclosed public places'. The amount of times people have ignored the no smoking signs in the main bus port of my hometown is ridiculous. Nothing good comes of smoking.
I agree with christian, it should be banned outright. The latest ban in the UK isn't enforced when it concerns 'enclosed public places'. The amount of times people have ignored the no smoking signs in the main bus port of my hometown is ridiculous. Nothing good comes of smoking.
Re: cigerate
I say none.. Thank god for Chicago and IL who have passed a new law saying you can not smoke in any public buildings and must be 15+ feet from any entrances to smoke in public...
Which is good so all of our new generations and current don't have to die form stupid 2nd hand smoking...
I say none.. Thank god for Chicago and IL who have passed a new law saying you can not smoke in any public buildings and must be 15+ feet from any entrances to smoke in public...
Which is good so all of our new generations and current don't have to die form stupid 2nd hand smoking...
apocalyptic_end
Acquaintance
Re: cigerate
I don't think there should be a 'proper' age for smoking, per-se. If you choose to subjecate yourself to the harms of smoking, that's your problem. Obviously, that's limited to the age of 10+.
I don't think there should be a 'proper' age for smoking, per-se. If you choose to subjecate yourself to the harms of smoking, that's your problem. Obviously, that's limited to the age of 10+.
Re: cigerate
I think smoking will always exist in England, even if it was banned altogether, cigarettes would still be smuggled in. Personally I don't like smoking and have never tried, but I don't really see any problem with someone smoking in there own home. If smokers get lung cancer I don't see why they deserve sympathy either.
I think smoking will always exist in England, even if it was banned altogether, cigarettes would still be smuggled in. Personally I don't like smoking and have never tried, but I don't really see any problem with someone smoking in there own home. If smokers get lung cancer I don't see why they deserve sympathy either.
Re: cigerate
I think the age should be lowered. I havnt done it yet, but every man in my family does, so im sure at some point I will as well, unless the wife doesnt let me...
Why lower? Well if they die of cancer quicker, theyll be less people to collect on retirment, and more money to go around.
I think the age should be lowered. I havnt done it yet, but every man in my family does, so im sure at some point I will as well, unless the wife doesnt let me...
Why lower? Well if they die of cancer quicker, theyll be less people to collect on retirment, and more money to go around.
LinkinParkFan71
Paragon
Re: cigerate
I tottaly Agree. My dad smokes and i am feeling some effects already. Dizzyness, trouble breathing. Should be banned.
Murder he Wrote said:
I tottaly Agree. My dad smokes and i am feeling some effects already. Dizzyness, trouble breathing. Should be banned.
Re: cigerate
While I wish that we could ban cigarettes, fact of the matter is that we would be depriving people the right to put junk in their bodies. While healthier for us folk who have asthma and who don't like inhaling a cigarette's worth of smoke just from walking down the street, it really wouldn't be fair to those who want to smoke. We tried the prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s, and that failed dismally.
I do think that we should tighten laws regarding cigarettes and make them more like those for the purchase of alcohol. I'm willing to bet that very few places actually card for cigarette purchases, and it's currently not illegal for an adult to buy cigarettes for a minor. If we want to crack down on the smoke, then we need to crack down on the problem, which is minors getting their hands on cigarettes.
That said, I'm good with the current age restriction in the US. 18 is the age when one is considered an adult, and should hopefully be capable of making an adult decision when it comes to cigarettes. Since cigarettes don't cause the severe brain damage that alcohol does before 21, there isn't really a reason to raise the age.
While I wish that we could ban cigarettes, fact of the matter is that we would be depriving people the right to put junk in their bodies. While healthier for us folk who have asthma and who don't like inhaling a cigarette's worth of smoke just from walking down the street, it really wouldn't be fair to those who want to smoke. We tried the prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s, and that failed dismally.
I do think that we should tighten laws regarding cigarettes and make them more like those for the purchase of alcohol. I'm willing to bet that very few places actually card for cigarette purchases, and it's currently not illegal for an adult to buy cigarettes for a minor. If we want to crack down on the smoke, then we need to crack down on the problem, which is minors getting their hands on cigarettes.
That said, I'm good with the current age restriction in the US. 18 is the age when one is considered an adult, and should hopefully be capable of making an adult decision when it comes to cigarettes. Since cigarettes don't cause the severe brain damage that alcohol does before 21, there isn't really a reason to raise the age.
Re: cigerate
I have an updated point on this... I'm doing it in English at the moment and my honest views are that it should be your choice to smoke, and I also think that smokers should have a smokers room to smoke in public... I think people should get more freedom and not being allowed to smoke in public takes away smokers freedom... even though I think smoking is pointless, and a waste of money, and don't really see why people do it... I don't see how it's enjoyable, breathing in tar and rat poison and that. Also if you are going to ban smoking in public, why not ban it on the streets as well? If the point of banning smoking in public was to stop people breathing in smoke, then surely they should ban it on the streets as well? Saying that I still maintain what I said about smokers should get there own room to smoke, so that they have a place to smoke if they want, that gives them more freedom. Also I think smoking shouldn't be banned in pubs... that's why they had non smoking pubs, plus a lot of people came to pubs to have a drink and a smoke, and that's not good from pub owners perspectives and is losing them customers
I have an updated point on this... I'm doing it in English at the moment and my honest views are that it should be your choice to smoke, and I also think that smokers should have a smokers room to smoke in public... I think people should get more freedom and not being allowed to smoke in public takes away smokers freedom... even though I think smoking is pointless, and a waste of money, and don't really see why people do it... I don't see how it's enjoyable, breathing in tar and rat poison and that. Also if you are going to ban smoking in public, why not ban it on the streets as well? If the point of banning smoking in public was to stop people breathing in smoke, then surely they should ban it on the streets as well? Saying that I still maintain what I said about smokers should get there own room to smoke, so that they have a place to smoke if they want, that gives them more freedom. Also I think smoking shouldn't be banned in pubs... that's why they had non smoking pubs, plus a lot of people came to pubs to have a drink and a smoke, and that's not good from pub owners perspectives and is losing them customers
Re: cigerate
Yeah they do already, it's called their house. The government shouldn't and probably wont spend the Tax payer's money on special facilities just to make it more convenient to smokers.
I completely disagree. You mentioned the "none-smoking pubs", but realistically how many of those do you think are going to be able to compete with the others, especially considering the amount of smokers there are and the state of the economy. I for one now love being able to walk into a bar or restaurant without being greeted by a cloud of dangerous smoke.
Have a look at the following article written a number of years ago. Although it's over 3 years old, the points are still valid.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4309613.stm
Now tell me they should let you smoke in bars and restaurants again...
Yeah they do already, it's called their house. The government shouldn't and probably wont spend the Tax payer's money on special facilities just to make it more convenient to smokers.
I completely disagree. You mentioned the "none-smoking pubs", but realistically how many of those do you think are going to be able to compete with the others, especially considering the amount of smokers there are and the state of the economy. I for one now love being able to walk into a bar or restaurant without being greeted by a cloud of dangerous smoke.
Have a look at the following article written a number of years ago. Although it's over 3 years old, the points are still valid.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4309613.stm
Now tell me they should let you smoke in bars and restaurants again...
Re: cigerate
I don't see how it's enjoyable quote from sbfc
its called an addiction mate, when people are young they think there cool etc when they get older they regret it later on in life.
ive smoked a few only when pissed i guess its great for socializing with other people in pubs etc but its very bad :S
where i live theres a special area in the pub where smokers are allowed to smoke inside i think its great
I don't see how it's enjoyable quote from sbfc
its called an addiction mate, when people are young they think there cool etc when they get older they regret it later on in life.
ive smoked a few only when pissed i guess its great for socializing with other people in pubs etc but its very bad :S
where i live theres a special area in the pub where smokers are allowed to smoke inside i think its great
Re: cigerate
From what I seen on the news and my own experience most people who are in pubs are angry that they are not allowed to smoke, I also think in some pubs, even though I really hate smoking, it can take away the pub atmosphere. Don't get me wrong, I love walking into places and not being able to smell smoke but I think smoking is a part of the traditional pub atmosphere.
From what I seen on the news and my own experience most people who are in pubs are angry that they are not allowed to smoke, I also think in some pubs, even though I really hate smoking, it can take away the pub atmosphere. Don't get me wrong, I love walking into places and not being able to smell smoke but I think smoking is a part of the traditional pub atmosphere.
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