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Re: I'm starting web design

Everyone here is (sorry to say) posting without prior knowledge. 😉

Use the industry standard, 960gs. Then expand canvas to something like 1200X1200. That provides enough room to create a layout and gives an example of what it looks like on a larger screen. Making things on a small canvas make it looks cramped when others look at it. Use a nice large size and have lots of white space - keep text sizes down low and make sure everything is well proportioned.
 
Re: I'm starting web design

iiPod said:
Everyone here is (sorry to say) posting without prior knowledge. 😉
:roll:

iiPod said:
Use the industry standard, 960gs. Then expand canvas to something like 1200X1200. That provides enough room to create a layout and gives an example of what it looks like on a larger screen. Making things on a small canvas make it looks cramped when others look at it. Use a nice large size and have lots of white space - keep text sizes down low and make sure everything is well proportioned.

DavidL said:
Most web users have screen resolutions bigger than 1024×768. I think it's common practice to use 1280 x 800 (or 1000) because you can fit in the "960 Grid System" and have distinguishable sidebars of white space. I don't think people with 21" screens would appreciate any smaller than 1024 x 768.
 
Re: I'm starting web design

DavidL said:
iiPod said:
Everyone here is (sorry to say) posting without prior knowledge. 😉
:roll:

iiPod said:
Use the industry standard, 960gs. Then expand canvas to something like 1200X1200. That provides enough room to create a layout and gives an example of what it looks like on a larger screen. Making things on a small canvas make it looks cramped when others look at it. Use a nice large size and have lots of white space - keep text sizes down low and make sure everything is well proportioned.

DavidL said:
Most web users have screen resolutions bigger than 1024×768. I think it's common practice to use 1280 x 800 (or 1000) because you can fit in the "960 Grid System" and have distinguishable sidebars of white space. I don't think people with 21" screens would appreciate any smaller than 1024 x 768.

" I think it's common practice to use 1280 x 800"

Precisely.
 
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iiPod said:
" I think it's common practice to use 1280 x 800"

Precisely.

You do not have to be arrogant with semantics of the word "think". You can be equally wrong, especially in a world of pluralism. There isn't a set law or guideline which is universally followed; what some people believe is the best canvas size may differ from many others. Actually, to determine the best canvas size, it comes from superiority of consensus, so right now, what you and I have (sort of) agreed on, has now become the minority, purely because there is not set guideline which is universally followed. "Common practice" in one part of the world may not be the same, so what I believe is a universal "common practice" is 1280 by 800. It doesn't mean I have no experience or prior knowledge; from my immediate experience and knowledge, this is what I have used, but it certainly doesn't have to apply to another location in the world. There's no law or rule or set definition in web design, so from experience, I believe it's 1280 by 800. Eg. What's the common size for a business card? Well, it matters on location, so I think the common size would be such and such, but it doesn't have to be what you think, and what you and I think doesn't have to be correct. What authority are you in web design?
 
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DavidL said:
iiPod said:
" I think it's common practice to use 1280 x 800"

Precisely.

You do not have to be arrogant with semantics of the word "think". You can be equally wrong, especially in a world of pluralism. There isn't a set law or guideline which is universally followed; what some people believe is the best canvas size may differ from many others. Actually, to determine the best canvas size, it comes from superiority of consensus, so right now, what you and I have (sort of) agreed on, has now become the minority, purely because there is not set guideline which is universally followed. "Common practice" in one part of the world may not be the same, so what I believe is a universal "common practice" is 1280 by 800. It doesn't mean I have no experience or prior knowledge; from my immediate experience and knowledge, this is what I have used, but it certainly doesn't have to apply to another location in the world. There's no law or rule or set definition in web design, so from experience, I believe it's 1280 by 800. Eg. What's the common size for a business card? Well, it matters on location, so I think the common size would be such and such, but it doesn't have to be what you think, and what you and I think doesn't have to be correct. What authority are you in web design?

I'll take a step back. It might be 1280x800 here, or where you hang around but that's simply a screen resolution. I don't want to get into a big flame war because frankly, I can't be bothered. You can do whatever you want, take a year to learn how to web design then you'll be good. Bye.
 
Re: I'm starting web design

Frankly, I don't mean to butt in. But iiPod is correct. You can't base a canvas on screen resolution.

The best way to create a web design on photoshop will be to make the canvas that is big enough. Of course I don't mean to exaggerate.

But you will need a big size and from there on you can just create your site using the 960 grid system.

This will give you enough space to see the site in different resolution site and give you enough space to work on your design.
 
Re: I'm starting web design

Okay, guys. It's okay to disagree, but let's not make it personal. Personal attacks will not be tolerated, and I don't want to see any more of them in this thread. Thank you! 🙂
 
Re: I'm starting web design

DavidL said:
The Hat Tipper said:
First off, Web Design is 80% design, 20% code. You don't need to know the code first, you need to know design. Anyone can slap together a index.html - but knowing which colors to use and what type of design to implement is all the work.
It's not as simple as that 80:20 comparison. Nowadays, web design has aspects of marketing, feasibility, efficiency and of course, appeal. Web design is not as straightforward or as literal as it sounds. Without knowing the mentioned aspects, your design is just a design; it will have no impact on the web. It might be great to look at, but the end result may be completely different to what you initially imagined.
It is still an art. You could code the world.

But if you have a yellow logo block and red background with some green garnished in the middle, no one will like it. No matter how good the UI is.
 
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Silent said:
Frankly, I don't mean to butt in. But iiPod is correct. You can't base a canvas on screen resolution.

The best way to create a web design on photoshop will be to make the canvas that is big enough. Of course I don't mean to exaggerate.

But you will need a big size and from there on you can just create your site using the 960 grid system.

This will give you enough space to see the site in different resolution site and give you enough space to work on your design.
That's more or less what I said. Regardless of screen resolution, 1280 is generally wide enough for your criteria. It can fit in the 960GS and you will have enough space to fit in the majority of web user's browsers, which is pertinent in web design.
 
Re: I'm starting web design

DavidL said:
That's more or less what I said. Regardless of screen resolution, 1280 is generally wide enough for your criteria. It can fit in the 960GS and you will have enough space to fit in the majority of web user's browsers, which is pertinent in web design.

I agree. Though the height is the only thing that stands. I normally base my height around 1100px. So I can see the site at full height.
 
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