Dems push bill to Abolish ICE.

[Deleted member 5665]

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/396712-dems-introduce-bill-to-eliminate-ice-shift-duties-elsewhere

With this, will allow traffic and drug cartels to move freely across the US border if allowed. It is sad days we live in one side wants to justify criminality for its own party survival sake. Just not long ago Left-wing activists protested against ICE for arresting a group of child traffickers in NYC and saving some children.

What do you guys think of this do you think ICE should be abolished do you think our borders should be open to trafficking and drug cartels?

 

[Joshua Farrell]

We shouldn't allow free access to those items, even if they make money off of it. I believe that this would be a even more poor mistake for the general public, than the attempt at legalizing cannabis (which is still illegal on the federal level, which means the Federal Government can still arrest people in states it is supposedly legal in).

 

[Cosmic]

I don’t understand. They took away straws, bags, and plastic containers. Now they want to take away ICE? How will we keep our drinks cold?

 

[Jason76]

I don’t understand. They took award straws, bags, and plastic containers. Now they want to take away ICE? How will we keep our drinks cold?

Yeah, this is PC run amok I think. 😛

 

[Ajay]

With this, will allow traffic and drug cartels to move freely across the US border if allowed.

What do you guys think of this do you think ICE should be abolished do you think our borders should be open to trafficking and drug cartels?

U.S Customs and Border Patrol would still exist, so this is incorrect or an obvious exaggeration. I.C.E operates independently of the Border Patrol agency and is a part of Homeland Security.

 

[Hissae2]

If you read the article that you cite as your source, it explains how ICE duties will be shifted to other agencies better equipped to handle many of their responsibilities. It literally says "shift duties elsewhere" in the title. This also has nothing to do with customs & border patrol so it will not "allow traffic and drug cartels to move freely across the US border if allowed" as you have stated. That is a mischaracterization of the article.

 

[Deleted member 5665]

If you read the article that you cite as your source, it explains how ICE duties will be shifted to other agencies better equipped to handle many of their responsibilities. It literally says "shift duties elsewhere" in the title. This also has nothing to do with customs & border patrol so it will not "allow traffic and drug cartels to move freely across the US border if allowed" as you have stated. That is a mischaracterization of the article.

Not really when leftist protest against ICE arresting those involved in child trafficking and drugs. Plenty of videos on that on Youtube alone. The concept of "shifting" as leftist claim it is really ignoring crime.

But also when you have blue Democrat controlled cities and states that are already pushing laws to allow criminals to vote nothing surprises me really. Chicago, California, etc the most highest crime rates come from Democrat controlled areas when your weak on crime and think we should be against law enforcement these things will happen. First it will be ICE, next will be other law organizations till only ones who control things are criminals.

 

[Jason76]

Of course, bad guys always use kids as pawns. Take the instance in a war when they place important stuff in hospitals etc...

 

[Ajay]

If you read the article that you cite as your source, it explains how ICE duties will be shifted to other agencies better equipped to handle many of their responsibilities. It literally says "shift duties elsewhere" in the title. This also has nothing to do with customs & border patrol so it will not "allow traffic and drug cartels to move freely across the US border if allowed" as you have stated. That is a mischaracterization of the article.

Not really when leftist protest against ICE arresting those involved in child trafficking and drugs. Plenty of videos on that on Youtube alone. The concept of "shifting" as leftist claim it is really ignoring crime.

But also when you have blue Democrat controlled cities and states that are already pushing laws to allow criminals to vote nothing surprises me really. Chicago, California, etc the most highest crime rates come from Democrat controlled areas when your weak on crime and think we should be against law enforcement these things will happen. First it will be ICE, next will be other law organizations till only ones who control things are criminals.

ICE aren't your typical law enforcement.

Another issue is, immigrants that ICE detain aren't allowed public defenders, so how are they supposed to defend themselves?

What you're basically saying is, everyone that ICE detains is guilty of a crime.

 

[Jason76]

Is the immigration scene on Up in Smoke funny these days? Probably not!

 

[Page]

I'm lost in this talktalk! I never got into politics

 

[Deleted member 5665]

ICE aren't your typical law enforcement.

Another issue is, immigrants that ICE detain aren't allowed public defenders, so how are they supposed to defend themselves?

What you're basically saying is, everyone that ICE detains is guilty of a crime.

Based off your comment you assume ICE goes around arresting people out of the blue with no evidence and so forth. Come on give it credit it isn't the Mueller special counsel who still can't come up with evidence and only their words. I remember when CNN and Washington Post heavily bashed ICE over arresting a woman in California who was involved in child trafficking, but instead the media wanted to make it look like ICE is randomly arresting people and that isn't the case.

If ICE goes I can promise you drug cartels and child trafficking will run rampant in the US. That's what the Democrats want since they are losing the black vote here in the US. They rather have votes of criminals, child traffickers and drug lords to make up their huge losses since. We won't allow the US become like Mexico because of some peoples feelings over ICE, sorry.

 

[Ajay]

ICE aren't your typical law enforcement.

Another issue is, immigrants that ICE detain aren't allowed public defenders, so how are they supposed to defend themselves?

What you're basically saying is, everyone that ICE detains is guilty of a crime.

Based off your comment you assume ICE goes around arresting people out of the blue with no evidence and so forth. Come on give it credit it isn't the Mueller special counsel who still can't come up with evidence and only their words. I remember when CNN and Washington Post heavily bashed ICE over arresting a woman in California who was involved in child trafficking, but instead the media wanted to make it look like ICE is randomly arresting people and that isn't the case.

If ICE goes I can promise you drug cartels and child trafficking will run rampant in the US. That's what the Democrats want since they are losing the black vote here in the US. They rather have votes of criminals, child traffickers and drug lords to make up their huge losses since. We won't allow the US become like Mexico because of some peoples feelings over ICE, sorry.

ICE's job should only be to work on immigration issues. They shouldn't start cutting the legs out of the FBI or local law enforcement.

And no, I don't think if ICE goes the US will become like Mexico.

I wouldn't be worrying about black votes just yet.. Trump has to regain votes that he somehow landed in 2016. The President must not think so highly of government agencies anyway, considering he basically just ignored what Intelligence agencies told him about the Russian meddling in our elections, but okay, he sided with Putin instead.

 

[Deleted member 5665]

ICE aren't your typical law enforcement.

Another issue is, immigrants that ICE detain aren't allowed public defenders, so how are they supposed to defend themselves?

What you're basically saying is, everyone that ICE detains is guilty of a crime.

Based off your comment you assume ICE goes around arresting people out of the blue with no evidence and so forth. Come on give it credit it isn't the Mueller special counsel who still can't come up with evidence and only their words. I remember when CNN and Washington Post heavily bashed ICE over arresting a woman in California who was involved in child trafficking, but instead the media wanted to make it look like ICE is randomly arresting people and that isn't the case.

If ICE goes I can promise you drug cartels and child trafficking will run rampant in the US. That's what the Democrats want since they are losing the black vote here in the US. They rather have votes of criminals, child traffickers and drug lords to make up their huge losses since. We won't allow the US become like Mexico because of some peoples feelings over ICE, sorry.

ICE's job should only be to work on immigration issues. They shouldn't start cutting the legs out of the FBI or local law enforcement.

And no, I don't think if ICE goes the US will become like Mexico.

I wouldn't be worrying about black votes just yet.. Trump has to regain votes that he somehow landed in 2016. The President must not think so highly of government agencies anyway, considering he basically just ignored what Intelligence agencies told him about the Russian meddling in our elections, but okay, he sided with Putin instead.

Neither did JFK, JFK was accused as well for colluding with Russia and I remember his words about casting the CIA away. The FBI has failed and so has many other intelligent agencies. Like when Obama gave stand down orders to his Cyber Chief which he gladly admitted that back during the 2016 election. Obama didn't care about election interference that's for sure. So why does everyone care now under this Administration? May be Mueller should be investigation the former administrations failures and actions, but as said it's a rigged system and a witch hunt after the wrong people.

It's funny when people still say Russia "hacked" the election, when Comey admitted to never have messed with the DNC servers so it's a allegation with no evidence or substance. So the Russiagate hysteria is amusing nonetheless. Yet now with recent information that Clinton camp accepted $400 million from Russia but all everyone can do is talk about Trump? That shows how mentally derange the left have become and everyone see's it and I will have to say the left has done a huge favor for America for pushing for a BIG Trump win for 2020. 🙂

But nonetheless I have nothing to worry about I love watching the left destroy themselves.

I know history was never a strong suit of the left, but more minorities voted for Trump in 2016 than under Reagan who was the top for a long time as a Republican and he was unbeatable during his time and 2020 won't be no different so enjoy the next 7 years. 😉

So enjoy watching possibly 50 state win in 2020.

 

[Jason76]

Illegals are only 3.5 percent of the US population!

 

[Deleted member 5665]

Illegals are only 3.5 percent of the US population!

The US Population is 325.7 million there are over 15 million illegals in the US currently. Yet according to Mueller 12 Russians "interfered" with out election, but it is "impossible" for over 15 million illegals to ever possibly interfere in our elections according to the left.

Left-wing logic is priceless, makes my job easier. Hope the left never changes, really.

 

[Jason76]

The US Population is 325.7 million there are over 15 million illegals in the US currently. Yet according to Mueller 12 Russians "interfered" with out election, but it is "impossible" for over 15 million illegals to ever possibly interfere in our elections according to the left.

Voting safeguards should keep both meddlers out.

 

[Deleted member 5665]

The US Population is 325.7 million there are over 15 million illegals in the US currently. Yet according to Mueller 12 Russians "interfered" with out election, but it is "impossible" for over 15 million illegals to ever possibly interfere in our elections according to the left.

Voting safeguards should keep both meddlers out.

Voter ID would be the best thing to do, but Democrats will never vote for it. They say it would be racist towards minorities because they aren't smart enough to get a Voter ID. They have said this back in 2016 and 2017 when it was brought up.

This is why we need more Republicans willing to do such. Bring in Voter ID and make sure things won't happen. It's amusing the left party who talk the loudest about safeguard our elections won't vote for Voter ID or safeguards. A bill could be introduced tomorrow to enforce Voter ID but won't get a single Democrat vote.

 

[Jason76]

Voter ID would be the best thing to do, but Democrats will never vote for it. They say it would be racist towards minorities because they aren't smart enough to get a Voter ID. They have said this back in 2016 and 2017 when it was brought up.

Voter ID should be the law - just like immigration should be legal. Nonetheless, there is certainly a hateful overtone with right-wing politics and of course, they want this stuff cause it gets Republican votes. In fact, the establishment has always played this despicable scheme with minorities, drugs, prisons - keeping them from voting because of drugs, yet running a drug war (with profits used to fight Communists or now probably to fund some prison/industrial complex).

 

[Deleted member 5665]

Voter ID would be the best thing to do, but Democrats will never vote for it. They say it would be racist towards minorities because they aren't smart enough to get a Voter ID. They have said this back in 2016 and 2017 when it was brought up.

Voter ID should be the law - just like immigration should be legal. Nonetheless, there is certainly a hateful overtone with right-wing politics and of course, they want this stuff cause it gets Republican votes. In fact, the establishment has always played this despicable scheme with minorities, drugs, prisons - keeping them from voting because of drugs, yet running a drug war (with profits used to fight Communists).

Immigration was never illegal, not sure what gives that impression. As stated many times if you want to immigrate into the US you must do so legally like many legal immigrants. We just don't tolerate illegal immigrants who had no process and many bring trouble and criminals as well as diseases, etc which cost lives of other Americans, many so in California which Democrats ignore.

We just don't want open borders and people just flooding into the US. As a individual yourself I doubt you just let people randomly walk into your home you get to know them first that is how it should work with immigration, but Democrats want open borders which we won't allow. You either come in legally or you don't. That has been the message since the Administration started, but the left keep pushing for open borders.

I feel sorry for all the people back during World War 2 who came in legally, but now this generation want to slap those in the face who worked hard to come in legally and learn what it was to be American, but suddenly expect illegal immigrants to get special treatment that isn't how it works. If you were not going to follow our laws to begin with you most likely were never going to ever. You come in lawfully and legally or you get deported simple as that.