[DEV] PM Log

Prepare to be hated.

People enjoy this thing called "Privacy" and when anyone (even you) does something to take a blow at it, even in the least bit, they dislike it.

Congrats if you finish it, just hope you're prepared.
 
I do understand about privacy. That's why there will be a option to tell the user that the forum has PM moderation. I will speak to some of the MOD authors of other PM MODs too. 🙂
 
I have this feature on my forum and unfortunately, in the past, I've had to use it. I had received reports from members about others sending them pm advertisements, and I had one user sending links to websites that would download malicious files to a persons' computer. (This was why I had to add the rule regarding cloaked urls..)

Otherwise, I don't use it because I respect my members, and I wouldn't want that done to me.
 
If you have loyal members who report spam anyway...i dont see the need for it? Bar from complete nosiness.

It doesnt show very much respect for your members.
 
Only install it if your members are having problems with PMs otherwise it's quite simply an invasion of privacy and your members won't be happy.
 
wednesday said:
If you have loyal members who report spam anyway...i dont see the need for it? Bar from complete nosiness.

It doesnt show very much respect for your members.

Well said, and I agree, and that is exactly why I only use it as a means of following up on a member's report. I am not going to jump the gun and assume that they are right and immediately punish the other person without said proof, because that wouldn't be fair. Misunderstandings are inevitable, and there have been times where one members' actions have been misconstrued as advertising, when, in all actuality, they weren't and were only trying to help..

Such as one incident where one member said in a topic, that their web hosting wasn't so great even though they paid a lot of money for it, and another member, who I'll call "J," who happened to own his own hosting company, offered to host that person for free, and sent a link to their site via pm to avoid being accused of advertising (since they weren't sure if it was, but didn't want to take any chances..) and they didn't want to interrupt the discussion at hand with possible questions from the other person about their company.

When the other person got J's message, they appeared to have misinterpreted it, and then forwarded a copy of the pm to me. Because J has offered to host me before, especially after some MAJOR downtime due to DDOS attacks, and I had a feeling that his actions may have been misinterpreted, I decided to follow up, and saw the pm J sent, and found that not only were his actions miscontrued, but that the other member, had left out the part of the message where J said that they saw the other member's post, sympathized with them and was willing to help them out by hosting them for free, since that happened to be the very reason why they started their own company.

I have no idea why the other member left that part out of J's message, but I can only assume that it was a mistake, especially since, after they received my reply, they apologized for the trouble and said that they weren't sure about it since they had read the rules and saw the part that said that members are encouraged to report any abusive or rule-breaking pms they receive. So, after seeing the pm for myself, I replied back to the other member and explained that "J" was only being generous because he had offered to host me as well, and was not trying to advertise his site. I told him that they may have misunderstood J's intentions, to which, they replied with an apology.

Now, imagine if I had jumped the gun, and assumed that J was intentionally breaking the rules, and I warned him without any other proof. Things from that point on, would have been quite uncomfortable as I will have punished someone for being generous. I look to avoid issues like this whenever possible, and so, this is why when they do report, and they tell me who they got it from, that I look for that person's name in the log, see the proof for myself, and if it turned out to be intentional, then I can confront that person with said proof. I am pretty sure that some have advertised, and the the members on the receiving end hadn't reported it, and without a report, then I have no choice but to assume that it doesn't happen because I would not feel right about using that ability without good reason.

I am just happy that I haven't had to go this route in more than a year. 😎
 
luke.p said:
Do you have a demo, or have the first part of it working?
Nope. 🙂

But once it's installed I hope forum owners look at the PMs when needed. That's what I do for The Hub.
 
I'm all for privacy, but I think that admins have the right to view PM's to make sure everything is in order, and there's no spam, rule breaking, etc.
 
maybe you should, do not show all PM's , but added a search button and it will find it, that way you don't look at all, just the ones that get reported
 
luke.p said:
maybe you should, do not show all PM's , but added a search button and it will find it, that way you don't look at all, just the ones that get reported
Hmm. I could add a option for the system to be used as a report system and another option for it to be used as a PM search system. User's could report a PM and the report gets added either into the MCP or ACP.
 
Note, there is also a mod that does the same thing in the phpbb3.X modification forum 🙂
 
phpBB 3.0.6 (I think, or 3.1) will have a phpBB3 PM report button (like MyBB and vBullletin have) so this mod (and similar ones) are obsolete
 
spyka said:
phpBB 3.0.6 (I think, or 3.1) will have a phpBB3 PM report button (like MyBB and vBullletin have) so this mod (and similar ones) are obsolete

It will be 3.0.6.
phpBB 3.1/Ascraeus is still in development :yes:
 
Alright, I believe that you will be hated by users, but for those nosy admins will thank you...
 
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