Do you believe in redemption?
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It depends on the situation for me.
For example a former co-worker of mine was absolute shit with money. They wrecked their credit by racking up huge debt and just not paying it off. Then they got with another person and put everything under their name... until their bills got too high and they couldn't pay them.
Meanwhile at work they constantly complained about not having enough money. And they always had some kind of fantastical scheme for making money. Like one time they made a deal with someone they met through work to get rid of a bed (the person who wanted it gone had no way to do so). So this schemer made a deal with someone else to help them. They charged the person $70 to get rid of the bed. Schemer paid for the fuel for the person's truck ($30), the dumping fee ($20), this other person's time ($20) and then lunch for them ($20). So after everything was said and done they lost $20 in this deal.
They also got very territorial over hours/pay. So any hour given to someone else was always directly taken from them. Which prompted a lot of tension. (It didn't help that they couldn't drive and lived quite a distance away either.) They refused to understand that others in the company (who had seniority or other skills necessary for the work) should get called first. (Like if you know on a particular day you'll need someone to deliver a skid of product to a customer why would you call in the person who can't drive?)
Eventually these issues culminated into one when they were complaining that they only worked one day that week to anyone who would listen. And then when they found out a new guy worked one more day that week (because new guy lived closer and could drive/get to work easier) they lit into them and threatened them. (Even though the new guy actually got fewer hours than this person.) Boss overheard and fired this person on the spot. Forbade them from ever coming back to work for them and could never step foot inside the premise.
So what does this have to do with redemption? This person never saw the problems with that they were doing. It was always someone else's fault/problem. They screwed their credit up so they just used someone else and did the same thing to them. They treated everyone as a quick buck. They made it so any money they could get was prime target regardless of who got screwed. They felt no qualms about taking their anger out on anyone. They could never see that their own behaviour was the problem. So they will not be redeemed. The only way they could is if they smarten up, see that their problem is their own attitude and take steps.
Someone that sees how they screwed up and are working to fix it can usually be redeemed. But they have to want it and have to be willing to work. They can't just say they want it. And the problem also can't be a recurring issue.
Even then there are still limits. Like you shoot my dog in my yard? No redemption. But accidentally hit my dog (who got loose) when backing out of your driveway? Yeah, it was a mistake.
For example a former co-worker of mine was absolute shit with money. They wrecked their credit by racking up huge debt and just not paying it off. Then they got with another person and put everything under their name... until their bills got too high and they couldn't pay them.
Meanwhile at work they constantly complained about not having enough money. And they always had some kind of fantastical scheme for making money. Like one time they made a deal with someone they met through work to get rid of a bed (the person who wanted it gone had no way to do so). So this schemer made a deal with someone else to help them. They charged the person $70 to get rid of the bed. Schemer paid for the fuel for the person's truck ($30), the dumping fee ($20), this other person's time ($20) and then lunch for them ($20). So after everything was said and done they lost $20 in this deal.
They also got very territorial over hours/pay. So any hour given to someone else was always directly taken from them. Which prompted a lot of tension. (It didn't help that they couldn't drive and lived quite a distance away either.) They refused to understand that others in the company (who had seniority or other skills necessary for the work) should get called first. (Like if you know on a particular day you'll need someone to deliver a skid of product to a customer why would you call in the person who can't drive?)
Eventually these issues culminated into one when they were complaining that they only worked one day that week to anyone who would listen. And then when they found out a new guy worked one more day that week (because new guy lived closer and could drive/get to work easier) they lit into them and threatened them. (Even though the new guy actually got fewer hours than this person.) Boss overheard and fired this person on the spot. Forbade them from ever coming back to work for them and could never step foot inside the premise.
So what does this have to do with redemption? This person never saw the problems with that they were doing. It was always someone else's fault/problem. They screwed their credit up so they just used someone else and did the same thing to them. They treated everyone as a quick buck. They made it so any money they could get was prime target regardless of who got screwed. They felt no qualms about taking their anger out on anyone. They could never see that their own behaviour was the problem. So they will not be redeemed. The only way they could is if they smarten up, see that their problem is their own attitude and take steps.
Someone that sees how they screwed up and are working to fix it can usually be redeemed. But they have to want it and have to be willing to work. They can't just say they want it. And the problem also can't be a recurring issue.
Even then there are still limits. Like you shoot my dog in my yard? No redemption. But accidentally hit my dog (who got loose) when backing out of your driveway? Yeah, it was a mistake.
Betrayal is a heavy word because it is a very good reason to lose your trust in a person. I know of a case that a guy betrayed his best friend when they were business partners. That's the end of the road for their friendship because there's no second chance. In those cases, redemption is just a word in the dictionary.
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