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Deleted member 49125
Why & why not? I feel if my members don't want to stay, they don't have to ask for permission & can delete their account at any time. Who am I to make them stay?
I don't have a delete option, but I will offer a year's temp-ban if they're desperate to leave. Gives them time away without permanently removing their account, so if they change their mind down the road, it's easy to fix or, if they wait out the full year, it's as easy as just signing back in.
Joshua Farrell
FP's Housekeeper
Most of the time, I'll let users delete their accounts. Though I am in the group that believes that if the account is needed to help keep the integrity of the flow of the forum, I prefer not to have the account deleted, if I can avoid it.
NO. We do not allow members to delete their accounts or have their accounts deleted on Christianity Haven. When accounts are deleted it messes up the flow of the conversations and that is annoying. We offer the option to change their username to something obscure and will alter some of their account information and we tell them to scramble their password if they don't want to return. But the conversations belong to us since it's a community effort and we don't appreciate someone wanting their portion of the conversation to simply disappear because they want to leave the site.
We don't even use the delete button on the site; things go in the Trash if there are rule violations.
We recently had a member get upset that we don't delete accounts so she went through her posts and changed them to a period...well, we only allow edits for a certain amount of time so she couldn't ruin the conversations as much as she wanted. I feel it's rude of members to think they're so entitled to disrupt a board like that. They're joining a "community" and if they want to leave then just go.
We don't even use the delete button on the site; things go in the Trash if there are rule violations.
We recently had a member get upset that we don't delete accounts so she went through her posts and changed them to a period...well, we only allow edits for a certain amount of time so she couldn't ruin the conversations as much as she wanted. I feel it's rude of members to think they're so entitled to disrupt a board like that. They're joining a "community" and if they want to leave then just go.
Nope, I do not have an option for members to remove their accounts. I had members PMing me regards having their accounts removed and I do it for their requests. I rather not have accounts removed. One member wanted the account removed and all of his 80 posts.
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Deleted member 49125
Interesting here! I'm surprised at the number of people who don't let members delete accounts. If the posts are still there, the flow is as well, regardless of WHO said it. I just see i.e. Deleted Member. But the conversation is still going.
I wish tho that if people are not allowed to delete their accounts (& other rules), at the Registration page it says those things. So the member knows front & center. Sometimes the Rules are obscured UNTIL one registers.
@Lämmchen You mentioned the conversations belong to you now. It's kinda funny because when I looked on Proboards if we could move to another host/ domain, they don't do that. The conversations belong to PROBOARDS NOT to the admin nor the members. But I think it's because it's a free service. All other platforms, the posts belong to the Admin & can be moved.
But that is another topic lol
I wish tho that if people are not allowed to delete their accounts (& other rules), at the Registration page it says those things. So the member knows front & center. Sometimes the Rules are obscured UNTIL one registers.
@Lämmchen You mentioned the conversations belong to you now. It's kinda funny because when I looked on Proboards if we could move to another host/ domain, they don't do that. The conversations belong to PROBOARDS NOT to the admin nor the members. But I think it's because it's a free service. All other platforms, the posts belong to the Admin & can be moved.
But that is another topic lol
I have a similar attitude, though I have different reasoning.
It looks ugly, yeah, and ruins flow of information. However, my reasoning in the first place is because of abuse. Most of the time, people troll you with the GDPR's "Notice of deletion" rules. Most of the time the accounts are dormant accounts from years before the law's introduction. The whole thing is idiotic.
So, to prevent them from coming back and repeating the same thing all over again. I ban their accounts, and put IP Ban and Discourage. Sometimes, I do delete accounts, when they ask. Its because there's no more information. (Better for me, and my sanity.)
The delete posts button is simple: A user removed the whole typed post from the post in the thread. Big NO-NO with Google. So, I told myself "That's it. Edit and delete is gone. Asshole." If he wanted to delete the thread he could've just deleted the post. So frustrating to see stupidity.
Yeah that GDPR is no fun for you Europeans...here in the US we have no obligation to it. Edited to add...I thought you were in the US?
After this last member went through and started editing her posts to a period the owner changed the settings so that members only get 2 hours to edit their posts. That should take care of that for a little while.
GDPR does not worry me at all people, Yes it's a pain but it doesn't get to me 🙂 I just accept and go with the flow and mostly you will have a member who is being a dosh but you always get them.
I am from United States, I have my servers in U.S. The problem is, early on, I had to deal with stupid members who got excited about a new law [GDPR] to abuse. I get sent "delete my account or I talk with GDPR" Emails in the first year the law was in effect. I was confused at first. I researched everything, and a lightbulb went off.. my first thought was "hm. These assholes are just abusing a law." Then, more Emails were sent, I got pissed off and treated them as hostile from there. The whole thing makes me just want to bang my head against a table or wall. I didn't do it, but that's the feeling.
I even got "canceled" on Twitter over the stupid crap.
One day, I had a headache, so I went to find beer to calm me down. That's how I feel about it.
People are just jerks.
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I don't know why they think everyone has to comply with THEIR laws? You're based in the US so you don't have to be bullied by their demands. If you feel charitable then by all means, go for it as long as it doesn't hurt your site. For Christianity Haven we rely on those conversations to make sense and even one missing post can upset an entire thought pattern. As for having "Deleted" for the name of a member (because he got deleted), that drives me up a wall. I think I'll tell the owner I'm going to add it to our Site Rules that we do NOT delete accounts so don't even bother asking. If it prevents people from signing up then I won't feel the loss anyway 😉
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Deleted member 50656
Recital 17 of GDPR which is what most users try and claim under - i.e the right to 'erasure' - only covers personally identifiable information.
You do legally have to remove their email address, username and any personal info they attached (like social media handles) but beyond that the rest can stay. The best thing for webmasters to do in this instance is scramble their password, email and give them a new username.
Recital 1, lawful processing, gives a site owner enough protection whereby if they've added personally identifying information in posts, because it was lawfully processed at the time (based off signup and publishing consent) and due to the lengths you'd have to go to, to re-edit all those posts, that wouldn't fall under the 'right to erasure'.
Well it is true that its based off WHERE the data subject is, not the processor. But there's other laws such as CCPA & LGPD that apply to other regions - GDPR just gets the most publicity because it covers the whole EU + UK area.
CCPA only applies to California and since the US is a constitutional republic, other states don't obey California laws since they make their own.
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Deleted member 7467
Who needs to have self deletion? I delete all accounts anyways.
Yeah, simple and easy and dealt with - No more GDPR
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Deleted member 49125
Okay, here's another take. Would you delete accounts if the member died? Say, a family member logged on to let you know that such & such has passed away. I think it would be morbid to keep a dead person's account on as it would only benefit the forum & dishonor the dead.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
I have a usergroup for members that have passed. It locks their accounts, essentially, and gives them an in memorial banner. So the account still exists, but it can never be used and it adds a token of respect to their account.
I was on a board that do that. Only a few boards do this. But if it ever come to that, I'll do the same.
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