Donald Trump for President

[TechWiz18]

Donald Trump is probably going to win over the majority, I don't really believe anything most of the candidates are saying :lol:

 

[Meo]

Donald Trump is probably going to win over the majority, I don't really believe anything most of the candidates are saying :lol:

That's the sad part about it, most of the candidates are just political puppets.

 

[MasterA]

What are your thoughts on Donald Trump at this moment?

 

[Cosmic]

He is even make Europe debattes burn. Literally noone in germany want him to be US president. Besides as you didnt know, Hulk Hoogan would be Vice president if Trump wins doe.

They don't get a vote though. 😛 Anyway, I don't know much about European politics, but there are many in Europe who strongly advocate sending away Syrian refugees. Merkel in particularly is being criticized by many for letting a large number in. That debate though is quite similar to the one Trump is trying to start in regard to illegal immigration and radical Islam. I don't nescessarily agree with him on these issues, but Europe also has politicians with similar views as the US.

 

[contarctors]

Hillary would be better but I can settle for Trump. He's alright, I think his tax plan is a little bizarre however I think he knows what he's doing when it comes to money, despite him going "bankrupt" 4 times. :lol:

Oh my god if Hillary becomes president, I'm moving out of the US.

*waves goodbye*

I hope she gets presidency.

I don't think she will be a good president to us, she is an ambitious but selfish lady and clever lady, Obama is really far better but as many American and as well as also people from other world believe that a strong president needed, who can take strong decision without any political fear or vote bank fear then Donald Trump is the demand of time, can strongly slaps on the face of terrorists and save us from terrorist in future.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

If our next president isn't Bernie Sanders, I give the United States only a few more years of being a first-world country. Our middle class will be gone in a few years at this rate.

 

[John]

If our next president isn't Bernie Sanders, I give the United States only a few more years of being a first-world country. Our middle class will be gone in a few years at this rate.

With all due respect, how would Bernie Sanders help the middle class more than Trump? Sanders is more into the lower class young people, while Trump is into the working man.

 

[Forces of Steel]

This only goes to show how much of a joke our political system has become. It has come to a point where conservatives and liberals are now mortal enemies, instead of previously resorting to fruitful debates.

Sorry, but anyone who buys into this crap is living in delusion. It doesn't matter who wins. We're all screwed.

 

[John]

This only goes to show how much of a joke our political system has become. It has come to a point where conservatives and liberals are now mortal enemies, instead of previously resorting to fruitful debates.

Sorry, but anyone who buys into this crap is living in delusion. It doesn't matter who wins. We're all screwed.

Debate season hasn't even started; worse than that, we don't even know who's going to be debating. 😛 Also, I don't necessarily see Conservatives and Liberals being enemies a bad thing. Both parties have their stances, and they're passionate about that being the best direction for America. I don't see an issue with that. Finally, we're not all screwed. At some point we'll cleanup this crap that a bunch of life-long politicians have caused. The problem is we look to politicians to fix our problems, instead of taking in the responsibility to not only find the solutions to our problems, but we've failed at getting someone to help solve our problems into prominent political positions.

 

[Shole]

This only goes to show how much of a joke our political system has become. It has come to a point where conservatives and liberals are now mortal enemies, instead of previously resorting to fruitful debates.

Sorry, but anyone who buys into this crap is living in delusion. It doesn't matter who wins. We're all screwed.

Indeed you are. It's I think Sweden>USA when it comes who has the worst policies on everything. The Swedes will join the ranks of third world countries in 2030 and the USA, well that depends of who wins.
Honestly if Trump wins you will probably best off when it comes to financial stability, everyone will hate you as always, except Russia for some miraculous reason...maybe even the pro Russian nations, who knows.
If Hilary wins, the USA will be hated more, feminism will be at it's peak and will try to create a rape culture in the USA...if you don't believe me, let it happen let her win.
Sanders will probably drive the country into white slavery and financial disaster, although I like that guy since he is open minded and all, he is just too kind and we all know that you simply cannot please everyone.

The other candidates are there for entertainment value, not that the peepz mentioned before aren't but they are just more likely to win.
Oh well, that's the USAs problem, and we (the rest of the world) won't stick our nose in their business since we don't have superiority complexes nor does the USA have any resources that we could use (don't get offended...you have the right to do so but it won't help you in any way).

 

[Deleted member 1609]

If our next president isn't Bernie Sanders, I give the United States only a few more years of being a first-world country. Our middle class will be gone in a few years at this rate.

With all due respect, how would Bernie Sanders help the middle class more than Trump? Sanders is more into the lower class young people, while Trump is into the working man.

Trump only knows about being a billionaire, and he only cares about the billionaire class. His tax policy is extremely favorable to the ultra-rich. He also hates the idea of minimum wages, pensions, etc. Bernie Sanders cares about raising wages across the board and decreasing the gross inequality of wealth in this country.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Sanders will probably drive the country into white slavery and financial disaster

Do you have any sources for this? That's a pretty lofty claim.

 

[Forces of Steel]

Debate season hasn't even started; worse than that, we don't even know who's going to be debating. 😛 Also, I don't necessarily see Conservatives and Liberals being enemies a bad thing. Both parties have their stances, and they're passionate about that being the best direction for America. I don't see an issue with that. Finally, we're not all screwed. At some point we'll cleanup this crap that a bunch of life-long politicians have caused. The problem is we look to politicians to fix our problems, instead of taking in the responsibility to not only find the solutions to our problems, but we've failed at getting someone to help solve our problems into prominent political positions.

Having opposing viewpoints is not the same as being enemies. Debates are always civil, even if heated. What I've noticed is that we've went from discussing real issues to attacking the person with those views. I'm going to quote a great post that a friend of mine made not long ago in a gun thread:

Just wanted to add my own two cents to this tired and ongoing debate, as once again the fanatics on both sides have me riled up. For the record, I am pro-gun and recognize the dangers of too much regulation. At the same time, I recognize the need for gun laws to exist, and for certain regulations to be in place. I'm in the middle ground, the place where common sense and realistic logic thrives. Unfortunately, the middle ground is very small, and surrounded by loud, angry liberals and conservatives all yelling at eachother and frothing at the mouth.

Lets talk about the conservatives first. Thank all the gods I don't live in their paranoid fantasy world. In this world, there are gun toting maniacs everywhere, who hate freedom and want to murder all law abiding citizens. The government supports these maniacs and wants to come to your house and take your guns because they are criminal traitors who love nothing more than seeing dead Americans. The only reasonable defense is for every American to have a gun to fight the criminals and the government, because that is what the constitution says, so patriotism! Ok you delusional fuckboys, for one, nobody is coming to "take your guns away." Like every other controlled substance and device, they should just be monitored. We have a DMV for cars, several organizations for drugs, and so on. Guns do not sit on some magic pedestal exempt from these same ideas. Now, the common argument against regulation is that it will make it harder for law abiding citizens to get guns. Well, background checks that uncover felonies and violent crimes isn't really doing anything to hinder "law abiding" citizens. So who are these villains who will have access to black market guns no matter what? Gangbangers and others involved in organized crime? Sure. How about the drunk with a family and 3 counts of domestic abuse? The guy who only robbed a liquor store once, when he was young and stupid? The guy who is regularly involved in some bar fight because he can't control his temper? Are all these people even going to know how to contact a black market gun dealer? We're talking the normal citizens here, not the career outlaws. We don't hire convicted repeat drug offenders at hospitals, we don't license drivers with multiple DUIs, so why should we freely give weapons to violent offenders just because they consider themselves "good guys" because "at least they're not gangbangers?" This line of argument then always leads into "banning guns will just lead to good guys without guns facing bad guys with lots of guns." Or to take it a step further, logicals fallacies such as "people are stabbed all the time! Ban kitchen knives!" Well, let me counter that with a few logical fallacies of my own. People are going to speed no matter what! Let's get rid of speed limits! Some people will run stop signs or traffic signals. Get rid of them! Some doctors will commit malpractice. Ban healthcare! Some lawyers are corrupt. Ban the law! See where this is going? Your clever logic goes both ways. Nobody is actually saying "let's get rid of all guns (well, except hardcore liberals, but more on them later). It's really all just about monitoring their use. Which brings us to that sinister government that wants to barge into your house and take your guns away. Ok, I've said it enough already, but they aren't doing that. The 2nd ammendment is here to stay, and your legal guns are yours to keep. This is just more slippery slope speculation that the Right is so fond of. "Registering guns is just a way for the government to know where to look when they come for our guns" is up there with "Gay marriage will turn us all gay and people will marry their dogs" and "Legalizing abortion will make everyone into baby murderers who kill babies for the slightest reason!" With that said, what are you going to do if they WERE to come for you? You really think the average citizen is going to stand a chance against armed drones, tank battalions, disciplined military, or even military grade guns in the hands of professionals? Sorry, but if the government really wanted to take guns away from civilians, this would be the reality at the first sign of resistance. It has and still happens all over the world when a militant regime takes over, or during modern civil wars. Hell, we do it here when a riot breaks out. I've actually heard people claim that "because Americans are the best and most resilient people in the world, we would all just band together and we could fight this!" Well, sorry to burst that bubble, but this isn't 1776 and we aren't fighting a guerrilla war against an army that schedules its battles for a specific place and time. Civilians wouldn't stand a chance in the long run, or at least most would die and then enjoy crawling through the rubble of what was once America. But this wouldn't happen anyway, because the armed forces of America, the military, the police, the FBI/CIA/secret service etc. is made up of - guess what - gun supporters! How long do you think they will all follow orders that they don't believe in? Hell, it took one woman 5 minutes to break the gay marriage law that she disagreed with. Furthermore, this stance has WAY more faith in humanity than I have. People are horrible opportunists who seek more to come up for themselves than to "band together and fight the powah!" A band of civilians just wouldn't have the discipline or moral fiber to band together to form an army capable of winning the war against the government. Look at the #BlackLivesMatter movement which is responsible for mass looting. You really think white people are so morally superior that they would never take to this sort of behavior?

On that note, lets look at the liberal idiots. These guys also live in a fantasy world, one that is much more pleasant but 100 times more delusional. In this fantasy, banning guns means banning violence altogether. We take away guns and everyone will just hold hands and be friends and dance on rainbows made of love and goodness. Wrong! Sorry, but humans just aren't that inherently good. As paranoid as the conservatives are, they are at least right that banning guns won't ban illegal guns in the hands of criminals. Liberals take the delusion of human goodness to a whole new level here, but it isn't without a very hypocritical dark side. All (or at least most) gun violence is caused by insane people, by violent police, by unfortunate poor people who are just trying to carve out a living. In short, by the mythical "lone gun nut." How long before you realize there are a lot of "lone gun nuts" out there. They aren't quite so alone. So we get ideas like mental health screenings. To some extent, this is a good idea, but it doesn't solve the problem. So few violent crimes are actually committed by mentally ill shooters, just some of the ones that make headlines. Most of the time, it's just normal, sane people. If the right's tactic is paranoid rhetoric, then the left's is to demonize everything they disagree with. Most people who own guns just want them for self defense and hunting, however the liberals would have you believe that everyone who owns a gun is a violent, hypermasculine (because in their world, women are innocent and pure and would never own a gun or do anything hurtful) nutjobs. This just isn't true, however it comes up as one of the most common counterarguments. "Well, I just own a gun for hunting." Murderer! The left is full of SJWs who can only argue idealism. Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world and we have to make due with what we have. This is really the biggest flaw in liberal thinking on the gun issue. They want the government to make some rules and just expect everyone to follow them.

So if both sides are wrong, what is the right course of action? As usual, common sense lies in the middle. We keep guns, we allow people to carry, and we go after illegal guns. I firmly believe in gun registration. I have a driver's license, why shouldn't I need a gun license? If someone is stopped and has an unregistered gun and no license, arrest them. If someone has violent convictions, they don't get a gun. It's what we do for driving without a license or DUI and nobody is complaining about it (except those who have been penalized for breaking these laws). If anything, this makes it easier to separate the good guys from the bad guys. It makes it easier to go after the illegal guns. Yeah, people will die if we go after illegal guns, but people are already dying. I believe we would do well as an armed society, kinda like Switzerland, if we have the ability to defend ourselves. However, we are too big to allow such a thing to go unmonitored. We have laws for a reason, and no "right" is above them. Gun ownership is a right by semantics, but more importantly it is a privilege and a responsibility, and both sides are being irresponsible crybabies.

 

[Shole]

Sanders will probably drive the country into white slavery and financial disaster

Do you have any sources for this? That's a pretty lofty claim.

If I was in the USA I'd probably be able to make that guy give me a steady salary based on my skin color, he is so full of white guilt it's just pouring out of him.

 

[John]

If our next president isn't Bernie Sanders, I give the United States only a few more years of being a first-world country. Our middle class will be gone in a few years at this rate.

With all due respect, how would Bernie Sanders help the middle class more than Trump? Sanders is more into the lower class young people, while Trump is into the working man.

Trump only knows about being a billionaire, and he only cares about the billionaire class. His tax policy is extremely favorable to the ultra-rich. He also hates the idea of minimum wages, pensions, etc. Bernie Sanders cares about raising wages across the board and decreasing the gross inequality of wealth in this country.

Sanders is the one who says terrorism is caused by Global Warming. Anyone who says that is a total idiot, and has no idea how to run a country. 😛

In addition, Sanders is in on things like free college and a single payer healthcare system (which aren't necessarily bad ideas), but neither of those is a major issue currently. Foreign policy and our debt is a far bigger concern than whether or not we have a right to college and healthcare. I just don't connect with Sanders on major issues, and I don't feel the majority of Americans will either.

 

[Finn]

Nobody understands how difficult it was to click this thread when I was shaking from intense laughter after reading the title. Donald Trump may be intelligent, but he speaks his mind too much, and his opinions are more suitable for the 1800s. Newsflash, this is 2015. Although it would benefit me in the sense that he would not get along well with Trudeau, the current Canadian PM (I have a distinct disliking of the Liberal party), he would simply destroy America's social reputation.

 

[ATiRAGEPRO]

Can't wait to hear what you all think, now that Trump is the president elect.

 

[Lord Saru]

He omitted Twitter in his technology conference telling that Twitter isnt 'big enough' a social media giant so as to take part in the conference.

 

[Page]

Yet I like Twitter out of all the others

 

[lunorian]

Going to be honest with you and say I voted for Hillary. The electorial college votes today and makes the final decision. Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. Whoever they elect I hope it's for the best.