Education

[cityStatic]

What are your thoughts on your country's education?

My thoughts, copied from an IM:

School is just a place with an innocent-sounding name that has been assigned to the indoctrination center where your child is sent to be stripped of his individuality and turned into an obedient dead conformist member of the American consumer culture. Who made... the theory of relativity... the incandescent light bulb...? And, if I may quote Carlin, "We are the proud parents of a child who has resisted his teachers' attempts to break his spirit and bend him to the corporate will of his masters"

 

[Naiwen]

I think it's crap, personally. We don't learn English in elementary school simply because there's a rivalry between anglophones and francophones. The maths are too easy compared to what they teach in Asia.

 

[Gimgak]

School is just a place with an innocent-sounding name that has been assigned to the indoctrination center where your child is sent to be stripped of his individuality and turned into an obedient dead conformist member of the American consumer culture. Who made... the theory of relativity... the incandescent light bulb...? And, if I may quote Carlin, "We are the proud parents of a child who has resisted his teachers' attempts to break his spirit and bend him to the corporate will of his masters"

Soo... No school = Yay?

I say go ahead with that, not everyone needs to be educated. They should instead be placed in technical schools from the beginning to be prepared for their trade sooner.

 

[Killman]

I personally think that education in the US (Where I live) is quite pathetic. At least in my school, it is all about learning how to be a corporate tool. That's it.

 

[Humble Novice]

While the quality of education in public schools may not be the best in the United States, it’s all we have right now. It’s not just the teachers who have to work hard, but also the students themselves. After all, motivating yourself to learn is one of the foundations to success. Sure, not everyone has to go to school just to become successful. But if you really want a high-income job, you’ll need to have a degree whether you like it or not. It’s made even tougher by the lack of working positions available due to the previous recession. Life is unfair, but you’re probably going to make it worse by not taking advantage of public education despite its contentment with mediocrity.

 

[katy perry is hot]

I agree with Humble. There are so many people who complain about the teachers and blame them. It's always "Why do the teachers suck so much why can't they teach yadda yadda" and that's true to an extent, there are a small chunk of teachers who could give a flying crap about their students and just want the paycheck. Most, however, are very interested in teaching and want to make sure their students do well. The problem is with this country as a whole. The children in this country are more interested in eating tons of shit and becoming overweight and playing videogames rather than education. That's why all the other countries score so much higher than the US does on standardized tests.

 

[froggyboy604]

Whenever I watch the news I mostly hear of students who send sexy pictures of themselves with their cell phones, or got drunk or high on drugs and alcohol they should not be eating or drinking.

But, I think the few students who know how to take advantage of their school's library, computers, and other resources, and are persistent in learning new things on their own will be more successful then the kids who just don't do much or try to find a short cut to game/cheat on assignments will not be as successful.

I notice some students complain about "how a teacher is never willing to help", but the same students hardly or ever ask for help because they rather chat with friends, don't want to look dumb or rather skip class.

 

[ItsZippy]

While it might have its issues, I think that's a very cynical approach to take. A good school ill provide a good quality education, will help children make a social life for themselves, will teach children about working together, I could go on...

 

[Fiona1964]

While it might have its issues, I think that's a very cynical approach to take. A good school ill provide a good quality education, will help children make a social life for themselves, will teach children about working together, I could go on...

I agree thats why i did not put my kids to the local school and paid £85.00 a week for taxi`s to send them to a better school and smaller high school
The local high school had over 1000`s pupils
but the school my kids went to has just over 200 which i think was better for them
even my youngest with ADHD did great at the school because of its size

 

[Justin]

My countries education is strict to a point.

My states education system sucks and is out of order.

My cities education system contradicts itself.

 

[Antarctic]

I don't go to school anymore even though i am sort of supposed too. I don't want their ideas and thoughts put into my head, besides, i don't feel intelligence is decided on one who knows the most maths, or science, or even history. I don't even know how to do the majority of my times tables but when the hell are we going to need that in real life? Unless i have to count my plants if you know what i mean.

Honestly, i am sure i know much more about the real world than these teachers and i don't want some random telling me what i should be learning and giving me grades and trying to hold me back because i don't know enough about maths or science. Utter crap.

When i have kids depending on my situation, i would probably do mostly home schooling.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

When i have kids depending on my situation, i would probably do mostly home schooling.

I agree. I want my children to learn the truth about the world, not the biased crap they teach in public schools. Social studies is especially biased; we basically learn that the USA has a perfect government and every other country in the world is failing.

 

[katy perry is hot]

I would never do home schooling... I want my kids to have friends and grow up a normal life tyvm...<br /><br />-- 03 Mar 2011, 19:01 --<br /><br />I would never do home schooling... I want my kids to have friends and grow up a normal life tyvm...

 

[Nathan54AB]

I would never do home schooling... I want my kids to have friends and grow up a normal life tyvm...

Normal? By what standard?

I think the education system in the US is poor and to some extent, deprived. One main thing I think is wrong with the system is that it don't enable any important skills or talents like critical thinking. They just drill in facts (some of them not) and a little bit of nationalism. For the most part, corporate advertising and religion does most of the "educating" in this nation.

 

[Gimgak]

I would never do home schooling... I want my kids to have friends and grow up a normal life tyvm...

Normal? By what standard?

Normal as in your kid doesn't grow up having no social skills whatsoever. The propaganda isn't a problem, it's just important to tell your kids the truth early on some once they're in the real world they can spot it easier. A child who hides from it will be less resistant to it as an adult.

I agree with Katy Perry is hot, homeschooling's pros just don't outweigh the cons. Only real reason to homeschool is if A) You live in a bad area OR B) You're a neo nazi. Otherwise, it's easy to fix other problems public schools have.

 

[Nathan54AB]

Normal as in your kid doesn't grow up having no social skills whatsoever.

Unless the family in question is extremely lazy or the parents have misplaced priorities and are workaholics, then the question of the kids developing social skills outside of a public school environment is irrelevant. Kids do not need to be sent to school to have healthy social interaction.

I agree with Katy Perry is hot, homeschooling's pros just don't outweigh the cons. Only real reason to homeschool is if A) You live in a bad area OR B) You're a neo nazi. Otherwise, it's easy to fix other problems public schools have.

In addition to my point above, homeschooling does have some pros that outweigh the cons. Having been homeschooled myself on and off for a few years, I have to say it does have many advantages that are not possible in a school system. I don't care how well the parents educate their children with valuable skills for life while still sending them to school, homeschooling still provides a much greater capacity for free thought and becoming equipped for the real world.

I am not saying that all children should be homeschooled for their entire lives as kids. I suggest a balance between the two. I homeschooled for three years, went to private school for another three, and homeschooled since then. Looking back, I'm sure I'd be worse off if I chose either method of schooling as my only method. There is also the fact that all children are different and, to some extent, respond differently to various environments. A single method of schooling will not apply well to all kids.

There really needs to be a balance between the two. In any case, I think seven to eight hours spent at school for five days a week is absurd. Then there is all the homework to be done. Where does the family come in?

 

[katy perry is hot]

Normal as in your kid doesn't grow up having no social skills whatsoever.

Kids do not need to be sent to school to have healthy social interaction.

With people of their own age, yes they do.

 

[Nathan54AB]

Normal as in your kid doesn't grow up having no social skills whatsoever.

Kids do not need to be sent to school to have healthy social interaction.

With people of their own age, yes they do.

No they do not. Again, having been homeschooled myself, I can speak from experience. There are homeschooling support groups which are fairly common and exist to further educational agendas of homeschoolers and to especially provide a social environment. Through such I did acquire a circle of friends within my own age group. I will admit that when it comes to social concerns, going to school is easier, which is why I don't endorse homeschooling wholeheartedly, but it's not impossible.

 

[Gimgak]

Homeschooling worked for you; that's great. The problem is a lot of parents are busy and probably won't take the time or care for their kids to have any social interactions with other kids.

That and parental propaganda can be more frightening than the government's. It's easier to shrug off bullshit spouted by some teacher than your mom or dad, reason why everyone on Stormfront is homeschooled.

 

[Nathan54AB]

Homeschooling worked for you; that's great. The problem is a lot of parents are busy and probably won't take the time or care for their kids to have any social interactions with other kids.

That and parental propaganda can be more frightening than the government's. It's easier to shrug off bullshit spouted by some teacher than your mom or dad, reason why everyone on Stormfront is homeschooled.

That's why I said I don't fully endorse homeschooling. Not all kids respond well to it, and not all parents give a crap about educating their kids but rather instilling Christian "values" in their kids.