Education

[golfbunny]

As I see it, the global education system is a broken model.

It was designed, I believe, essentially to meet the demands of industrialization. That's why math and science are universally valued higher than the arts. In other words, the education system is an industrial model. I like to call it "fast food" education. It seems to systematically dislocate children from their creativity and natural talents. That is the experience I've had, at least.

I think we must innovate fundamentally in education. "Reform" is useless because we're working with a broken model.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Well here in the US we have a serious lag in the amount of people going into math/science/engineering

 

[Deleted member 1609]

As I see it, the global education system is a broken model.

It was designed, I believe, essentially to meet the demands of industrialization. That's why math and science are universally valued higher than the arts. In other words, the education system is an industrial model. I like to call it "fast food" education. It seems to systematically dislocate children from their creativity and natural talents. That is the experience I've had, at least.

I think we must innovate fundamentally in education. "Reform" is useless because we're working with a broken model.

I agree, and the few arts classes that kids do have in general education (e.g. social studies) only serve the purpose to brainwash us with what our right-wing leaders want us to believe (e.g. "SOCIALISM IS BAD AND THE USA HAS A PERFECT GOVERNMENT"). Students are taught to be drones who can only solve problems that have one answer (e.g. math problems). Having an opinion is almost seen as taboo.

 

[golfbunny]

Indeed, Snobo.

At the heart of the issue is reconstituting our sense of ability and talent, and, of course, avoiding indoctrination, as you pointed out.

 

[SheepishWolf]

A person a few grades lower than me called a colored student in our school "The 'N' word". The colored person punched him in the face and he was unconscious for a few hours. What did the person who called the other person the name learn? That if you think you're funny or cool calling someone something hurtful, you'll get a punishment somehow. A person in my school had drugs in his locker, and when the school brought in the dogs (which they do regularly) and the dogs found the drugs in his locker. I think he got detention or something. What did that person do? Not to keep their drugs in a place where they regularly have dogs come in that are trained to find drugs or. In my experience, school can give kids the opportunity to "learn" things that they'll actually need in life - an example being what is typically socially frowned upon and just basically how you're expected to act with others. Those things you really can't get at home, because it's pretty unlikely that things like the examples above will occur in your house and teach you those lessons. Learning from other students mistakes happens a lot in school.

And frankly, the internet has taught me more science and math than the actual school does.

 

[Fangs]

I think a basic education is needed. So teach children to read and write and do math. But I think that high school should offer a wider choice. Why can't children learn how to be a plumber or a bricklayer in high school? Yes some children want to take the academic route and go off to university which is fine but what about those who don't? Surely the could be learning skills or trades in high school that would benefit their career once left?

Just as a side note I left school at 16yrs old with my basic GCSE's and went in to a full time job. I now earn at least the same and in a lot of cases more than people who I went to school with who left to go to university. So I also feel that experience will also get you a long way, not just qualifications.

 

[Nuke]

Public schools = Bad, almost always.
Private schools are better in every way.

Public schools are collectivist because they teach everyone the same thing and force all people to pay for it, even if they are not served.

Also, yeah I learned most of my knowledge from the Internet. And the History Channel. Sometimes I learn something from school, though.

 

[Gimgak]

Where did you get that from? Yeah in elementary school you're forced to shovel sh*t everyone else does but once you're in high school you've got the choice to not have to go to class with idiots.

 

[Nuke]

True, there are honors classes. But it's JUST like if we had one company running all the schools. They make huge blunders without taking damage.