Election 2012

[Watch Me Sink]

I wouldn't be surprised if he signs SOPA if it passes in the house.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he reinstated the draft.

I would. Especially with 2012 rolling around, do you really think a draft would help him get reelected?

It would help him get elected about as much as everything else he's doing is. :lol: It would also help him with the especially militaristic people (who are conveniently older than the draft age).

I do not think many people are just waiting to forcibly send the younger generation into another country. Economic problems would get worse (as tax money/foreign debt is used to fund wars) and the old people would have less money for Social Security anyways.

Plus the people that are extremely pro-military usually vote Republican without thinking. The way 2012 is looking, except for a few spots in local government (if they are even running, hell I don't even know what offices are up for election next year) I'm going to vote out incumbents without thinking. Yes, Snobo that does mean that I may end up voting for a Democrat :shock:

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Re: Indefinite Detention

I wouldn't be surprised if he signs SOPA if it passes in the house.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he reinstated the draft.

I would. Especially with 2012 rolling around, do you really think a draft would help him get reelected?

It would help him get elected about as much as everything else he's doing is. :lol: It would also help him with the especially militaristic people (who are conveniently older than the draft age).

I do not think many people are just waiting to forcibly send the younger generation into another country. Economic problems would get worse (as tax money/foreign debt is used to fund wars) and the old people would have less money for Social Security anyways.

Plus the people that are extremely pro-military usually vote Republican without thinking. The way 2012 is looking, except for a few spots in local government (if they are even running, hell I don't even know what offices are up for election next year) I'm going to vote out incumbents without thinking. Yes, Snobo that does mean that I may end up voting for a Democrat :shock:

:lol: I don't know if I'm voting for Democrats yet. My incumbent congressman is actually a Republican (for the first time since the election of 1982). I might vote third party (actually, I know I will for the president since it doesn't matter anyway). Some would call that a wasted vote, but I would call their vote for more of the same a wasted vote as well.

Didn't you say you live in New York in the past (I could be wrong)? If that's the case, then I'm rather surprised that all the incumbents aren't Democrats. :lol:

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Re: Indefinite Detention

I wouldn't be surprised if he signs SOPA if it passes in the house.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he reinstated the draft.

I would. Especially with 2012 rolling around, do you really think a draft would help him get reelected?

It would help him get elected about as much as everything else he's doing is. :lol: It would also help him with the especially militaristic people (who are conveniently older than the draft age).

I do not think many people are just waiting to forcibly send the younger generation into another country. Economic problems would get worse (as tax money/foreign debt is used to fund wars) and the old people would have less money for Social Security anyways.

Plus the people that are extremely pro-military usually vote Republican without thinking. The way 2012 is looking, except for a few spots in local government (if they are even running, hell I don't even know what offices are up for election next year) I'm going to vote out incumbents without thinking. Yes, Snobo that does mean that I may end up voting for a Democrat :shock:

:lol: I don't know if I'm voting for Democrats yet. My incumbent congressman is actually a Republican (for the first time since the election of 1982). I might vote third party (actually, I know I will for the president since it doesn't matter anyway). Some would call that a wasted vote, but I would call their vote for more of the same a wasted vote as well.

Didn't you say you live in New York in the past (I could be wrong)? If that's the case, then I'm rather surprised that all the incumbents aren't Democrats. :lol:

Depending on the Republican candidate I might write in Ron Paul or somebody for the presidential election. I do live in New York, and with the amount of Democratic voters even if I vote for the Republican candidate it will not matter, unless Obama goes crazy. Last time New York went Republican in a Presidential election was 1984.

Upstate New York actually has a decent amount of Republican representatives. In fact, if NYC and Long Island were not part of New York, New York would most likely be a battleground state. Upstate New York likes guns (which helps it lean right) and one of our Democratic Senators was a large gun rights advocate until she was appointed Senator. In fact she is one of the more conservative Democrats and probably won't get re-elected for that reason.

Redistricting has caused weird things though. The college I attend spans multiple campuses relatively close to each other. However the way the districts are set up, there is on campus housing spanning two congressional districts (and the college owns property spanning three(!!!) congressional districts, all within 15 miles of each other). Both districts have Democratic representatives, but the representative representing where I currently live won the last election by only a five point margin (the other representative represents a more urban area and won by nearly 60 points). If I move to the campus in the other district next year, my vote will mean almost nothing. It all really depends where my classes are.

I'm sure if people really want to stalk me, people could find out what college I go to and even which campus I live on, but don't 😛

I also realize that we are extremely off topic, maybe a "2012 US election" thread split?

 

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I splitted the thread so we can continue our conversation without being off-topic. 😉

Yeah, NYC and Long Island definitely make New York solidly blue. It's sort of like my state (Illinois) where many districts are red, but the state always goes blue because of Chicago. Illinois is really badly gerrymandered, but I think that it would probably still go blue even if it weren't because of Chicago. It's interesting because during the 2010 election, the Democratic candidate for Senate was ahead by nearly fifty points when only the Chicago districts had been counted; he ended up losing by a few percentage points to the Republican. :lol: My college actually has a ton of right-wing students (uncommon on college campuses) because it's made up mostly of rich kids from the more affluent parts of Chicago due to its high price.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

It's sort of like my state (Illinois)

I feel bad for you

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12 ... z1g0OgVsJG

The twice-elected Democrat is now the second former Illinois governor in a row to be sentenced to prison, and the fourth Illinois governor in the last four decades. His Republican predecessor, George Ryan, currently is serving a sentence of 6 1/2 years, also for corruption.

Corruption is rampant in every state, but it seems the governors in Illinois are quite good at being corrupt.

My college seems to be right down the middle. There's a decent amount of Republicans and Democrats. I went to a meeting of the Democrat club, and found it interesting. The people there kept up with the news more than I do, and I found that I was one of the only people in high school who kept up with the news.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Take a look at this:

http://www.thelibertypapers.org/wp-cont ... eplate.jpg

😛

 

[Gimgak]

I literally lol'd.

 

[Wrecks]

Think about this though, if Obama approves the Indefinite Detention act, and the Protect IP and Stop Online Piracy Act bills. People will potentially riot. Thus causing Marshal Law to be in effect. And preventing people from voting. Think about it.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Most Americans simply don't keep up with the news enough for that to happen if you ask me. The USA PATRIOT Act was extremely dangerous, but nobody so much as sighed about that.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

And all these bills always make the front page of the news.


/s

 

[Wrecks]

Most Americans simply don't keep up with the news enough for that to happen if you ask me. The USA PATRIOT Act was extremely dangerous, but nobody so much as sighed about that.

That's cause as you mentioned, most don't pay enough attention. And are therefore failing to know of what's going on. When they start to censor the internet, arrest people for the smallest of things. People will wake up.

 

[MinorSplash]

If all these bills pass, I'm not voting for anyone. 🙁

 

[Nuke]

I can say for sure that I support Bachmann, but only since Cain dropped out.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

To bump this thread, i'd say it's safe to say that there are morons in this race than ever before. Every time I hear Gingrich speak I throw up in my mouth a little.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

To bump this thread, i'd say it's safe to say that there are morons in this race than ever before. Every time I hear Gingrich speak I throw up in my mouth a little.

I agree. I really don't like any of the mainstream candidates.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

To bump this thread, i'd say it's safe to say that there are morons in this race than ever before. Every time I hear Gingrich speak I throw up in my mouth a little.

I agree. I really don't like any of the mainstream candidates.

Thoughts on Paul?

 

[Deleted member 1609]

To bump this thread, i'd say it's safe to say that there are morons in this race than ever before. Every time I hear Gingrich speak I throw up in my mouth a little.

I agree. I really don't like any of the mainstream candidates.

Thoughts on Paul?

As you probably assumed, I strongly disagree with his economic stances. I agree with him on some social issues on which he takes libertarian stances, but I probably disagree with him sixty to seventy percent of the time. I'd probably support someone like Ralph Nader or Stewart Alexander over Paul.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

To bump this thread, i'd say it's safe to say that there are morons in this race than ever before. Every time I hear Gingrich speak I throw up in my mouth a little.

I agree. I really don't like any of the mainstream candidates.

Thoughts on Paul?

As you probably assumed, I strongly disagree with his economic stances.

Even with cutting government spending and such? One of the main reasons I support him is because of his economic policy, cutting government spending and granting states more rights that the federal government should have little to no control over (ie marriage).

 

[Nuke]

Now I like Rick Santorum. Ron Paul would be better, but his foreign policy is off.

Also, Newt Gingrich is a lefty in disguise.

I'm a strong Federalist, too, WMS. I love the Constitution, the Founders, and all of that stuff.

 

[NBK*Twitch]

Now I like Rick Santorum. Ron Paul would be better, but his foreign policy is off.

Also, Newt Gingrich is a lefty in disguise.

I'm a strong Federalist, too, WMS. I love the Constitution, the Founders, and all of that stuff.

You love the constitution,but like rick santorum now that is funny...