Everyone Here Should Sign This Petition

I really am not bothered, I use Google Chrome anyway. 😉
 
Dreadlord said:
I really am not bothered, I use Google Chrome anyway. 😉

You should be bothered.

Listen here guys, Firefox is like 20% of the browser market. If you have any plans to own a website or already own a website, then this is a petition you should sign. Why?

You might think your traffic is low now, but what are you going to do when a large portion of your traffic (people visiting with firefox) goes unaccounted for? YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TRACK THEM WITH ANALYTICS. Guess what? They will also not see any of your advertisements if that's what you rely on for income.

As an example, if Mozilla blocks third party cookies, then 32% of my blogs monthly traffic will go unaccounted for. And that's x,xxx visitors ... and it's not even the most popular browser coming to my site.

My blog mostly makes it revenue through ads, and if Mozilla does something like this, then you can't even imagine what kind of impact that would have on my blogs revenue.
 
Signed, looks like it's just about to break about 1,000 signatures. You bring up some good points though, thanks for posting this!
 
I'm happy about this. I don't want third party websites to put cookies on my machine, they have no reason to track me.
 
Luke said:
I'm happy about this. I don't want third party websites to put cookies on my machine, they have no reason to track me.

Is that your channel in your signature?

If so, do you ever plan to monetize it by becoming a partner?

Well, if you do, just imagine if 20% of viewers never saw an ad, or never showed up in your stats.
 
JLogan said:
Luke said:
I'm happy about this. I don't want third party websites to put cookies on my machine, they have no reason to track me.

Is that your channel in your signature?

If so, do you ever plan to monetize it by becoming a partner?

Well, if you do, just imagine if 20% of viewers never saw an ad, or never showed up in your stats.

Yes it is and I don't plan on monetizing it. I don't like wrecking people's user experience cluttering my website or videos with ads.

If the channel got big, maybe, it could become a living but people use ad-blockers, kinda pointless.

And I don't care if they don't show up on my stats, they will on my server logs.
 
Luke said:
Yes it is and I don't plan on monetizing it. I don't like wrecking people's user experience cluttering my website or videos with ads.

If the channel got big, maybe, it could become a living but people use ad-blockers, kinda pointless.

And I don't care if they don't show up on my stats, they will on my server logs.

Most sites online have ads. This forum is ONE BIG AD. How does having advertisements ruin the user experience? And not everyone uses an adblocker. I don't use an adblocker.

Lots of websites depend on ads for revenue. If third party cookies are blocked by Mozilla, then it will hurt a lot of webmasters.
 
JLogan, I think that a high percentage of people on Youtube use adblockers and also it kind of does ruin their experience; they don't get the content they want they get a crappy ad of the start that wastes about half a minute of their time which could be spent on something else.
 
I will sign it in a minute and I see a lot of people don't care about it as they don't want to monetize their website or they use ad blocker anyway but this is how I see it because it can affect everyone in some way.

Scenario 1:

The website you love visiting each day might be relying on ads. Due to this change firefox are making, they may not have enough revenue to keep the website going and might be forced to shut it down due to it.

Scenario 2:

There are loads of free hosting sites, some awesome ones like IcyBoards which are able to offer free forum hosting because of the revenue they make from advertisements. With this change, they may not be able to afford to keep the service going and may either shut down or start charging. The customers are affected because they might not be able to afford it, thus having using the free host in the first place or if the host shut down, they can't use the service. If it was a free host, there is a chance they had no access to the files and couldn't back up the site.

This can also go back to scenario 1.

I can't change your decision but hopefully my point will help.
 
Dennis said:
Why not Just whitelist the sites you like?.

The blocking of third party cookies would be built in, and I've heard nothing about the ability to be able to whitelist things. This is not something you will install, but it will come default.
 
Advertising isn't the only way to make money guys, if that's the only way you're making money you need to rethink your revenue plan, because I was making 30-50x more money through other ways on Geeks Hut than advertising.
 
Luke said:
Advertising isn't the only way to make money guys, if that's the only way you're making money you need to rethink your revenue plan, because I was making 30-50x more money through other ways on Geeks Hut than advertising.

What are those ways?
 
Signed.

Luke said:
Advertising isn't the only way to make money guys, if that's the only way you're making money you need to rethink your revenue plan, because I was making 30-50x more money through other ways on Geeks Hut than advertising.

That's a bit of a stupid thing to say really. There are a number of sites who are forced to rely on adverts or CPA offers (still adverts) to earn money. Take a Proxy. Their entire revenue is from ads. How do you expect them to make money? They can't charge for their service....

Dennis said:
Why not Just whitelist the sites you like?.

Most people won't Dennis. So webmasters will still loose a huge percentage of their revenue.

Samalan said:
I will sign it in a minute and I see a lot of people don't care about it as they don't want to monetize their website or they use ad blocker anyway but this is how I see it because it can affect everyone in some way.

Scenario 1:

The website you love visiting each day might be relying on ads. Due to this change firefox are making, they may not have enough revenue to keep the website going and might be forced to shut it down due to it.

Scenario 2:

There are loads of free hosting sites, some awesome ones like IcyBoards which are able to offer free forum hosting because of the revenue they make from advertisements. With this change, they may not be able to afford to keep the service going and may either shut down or start charging. The customers are affected because they might not be able to afford it, thus having using the free host in the first place or if the host shut down, they can't use the service. If it was a free host, there is a chance they had no access to the files and couldn't back up the site.

This can also go back to scenario 1.

I can't change your decision but hopefully my point will help.

This is completely correct. Having Adblock is like getting Sky or Cable Tv for free or like using the fast forward remote to skip ads. The web was designed to have a freemium model and this is financed by adverts. Unless users want to start paying for all their content, then adblock shouldn't really be allowed en masse.

There are thousands of jobs which have been taken due to technology/ the web. The internet needs to have a model where people can earn a living. There are some people who completely rely on their ad income and this implementation would be especially disastrous for webmasters in third world countries where they don't have social security.

Dreadlord said:
JLogan, I think that a high percentage of people on Youtube use adblockers and also it kind of does ruin their experience; they don't get the content they want they get a crappy ad of the start that wastes about half a minute of their time which could be spent on something else.

Yes but Google has been paying adblock to allow it to display its ads. I doubt the default install will affect them at all, they'll simply pay $100million or so to allow their ads. This only really impacts the little guy.



You can't have everything 100% free. If you want free news outlets and experts who actually post online rather than keeping their content in downloadable, payable ebooks then you need to sign this petition.

As an internet user, you have the right to close a webpage if you think the ads displayed are annoying but the webmaster has the right to display those ads.
 
JLogan said:
As an example, if Mozilla blocks third party cookies, then 32% of my blogs monthly traffic will go unaccounted for. And that's x,xxx visitors ... and it's not even the most popular browser coming to my site.

If mozilla blocks 3rd party cookies, people won't be able to log into my site... not my problem I use cookies.
 
Sam said:
That's a bit of a stupid thing to say really. There are a number of sites who are forced to rely on adverts or CPA offers (still adverts) to earn money. Take a Proxy. Their entire revenue is from ads. How do you expect them to make money? They can't charge for their service....

Well than display your own PRIVATE advertisements. People here don't seem to understand that you can make a KILLING through private advertisements. If you have the traffic, people will pay big money for private advertisements on your sites. Think outside of the box, Google Adsense isn't the only method of making money online. You want a way like I had with Geeks Hut where I could earn without needing a middle man and was beginning to earn quite a bit.

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Luke said:
Sam said:
That's a bit of a stupid thing to say really. There are a number of sites who are forced to rely on adverts or CPA offers (still adverts) to earn money. Take a Proxy. Their entire revenue is from ads. How do you expect them to make money? They can't charge for their service....

Well than display your own PRIVATE advertisements. People here don't seem to understand that you can make a KILLING through private advertisements. If you have the traffic, people will pay big money for private advertisements on your sites. Think outside of the box, Google Adsense isn't the only method of making money online. You want a way like I had with Geeks Hut where I could earn without needing a middle man and was beginning to earn quite a bit.

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Private advertisements aren't thinking outside of the box, and if the company who does buy an ad on your site wants to use some tracking code, then that's not gonna work.

You're also forgetting that almost all of us here do not have the manpower to be contacting people, and companies all day to see if they're interested in ads. It's a lot easier for everyone to either join an advertisement marketplace, or use adsense. If everyone had the time, and resources to sell their own ads then they would.
 
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