If you've been around online long enough, you'll know that you have to fire people sometimes, and it can be very painful sometimes. My question is this -- what does it take for you to fire someone? For me, long term inactivity, consistently screwing stuff up, or lying is generally something that I fire people for, in addition to some other (really) odd things that I've seen while online. What about you? What normally puts you over the edge to fire someone?
Firing Staff Members
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Shannon Apple
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Personally, I've never had to do it, but a fellow admin has. It was an admin who tried to use our previous site (years before the place was sold) to build his own. He thought we'd be okay with him redirecting the members there and offering us mod positions. Yeah right. Didn't like the guy and certainly didn't want to be a mod under him. I kicked up a stink about it in the staff forums because I wasn't an admin yet at that point and I was extremely loyal to the place XD. I couldn't do anything else about him except have it out with him where only staff could see it. In the end, the rest of the team saw exactly what I saw. He never actually did any work on the forum, complained about not having full admin access (which he did have). He just wasn't given access to the server because he didn't need it. Good thing too. I wouldn't have trusted him. The whole time, he was building his own forum and talking in the forums about how bad our site was. If you want to build your own site, fine, but do in on your own steam, not to replace another site and try to get their members to leave. He was removed with a "thank you for your service" PM and that was that. He tried to kick up on the forum, but his thread was locked. If they are that bad, they don't deserve "VIP."
That was the worst one I think XD. I only recall 1 other person being removed from staff for bad reasons in over a decade.
If a mod didn't share our values of community, I'd probably thank them for their time with us and remove them to member status. It's important to do it as quietly and professionally as possible I think. Being semi-active isn't an issue. We have 10 staff members at the moment and a couple of them aren't very active, but... that's fine. The site is small and we have too many mods. If they don't become active, they'll probably get moved to a special group eventually, but any of that old core group would always be welcome back to the team.
That was the worst one I think XD. I only recall 1 other person being removed from staff for bad reasons in over a decade.
If a mod didn't share our values of community, I'd probably thank them for their time with us and remove them to member status. It's important to do it as quietly and professionally as possible I think. Being semi-active isn't an issue. We have 10 staff members at the moment and a couple of them aren't very active, but... that's fine. The site is small and we have too many mods. If they don't become active, they'll probably get moved to a special group eventually, but any of that old core group would always be welcome back to the team.
I been fired three times by the same administration, and by the fourth time I made my discussion to leave for good. The admin was an damn cunt (mine my language) that doesn't respect me or others and damn he didn't care about the website at all. I made about over 10 suggestions and he never gave it a thought. I made some good results but I had very limited powers and what's so damn silly and a cunt of him that one day I was getting though to him about the website problems or something alike and I wasn't happy so I started to tell him off and that point he banned me and removed me. Sucks!. A day or so later I was back In business again as a moderator and he didn't even say sorry and yeah had another guy in the admin team to get him to bring me back.
Yes two admin, one is the owner the other came to the website about a month later and yet he didn't have the permissions. Both of as till today are still mates and been known for since 2012 as for the owner who is a dick I don't want to know him and last heard from him in early 2013. Also my mate hasn't spoken to him since then since we both agree that he is an dumped poop.
However I did had experience from it, experienced being a moderator under a very bad poor administration which is also a shame that he also has knowledge on programing and didn't use that knowledge at all.
Yes two admin, one is the owner the other came to the website about a month later and yet he didn't have the permissions. Both of as till today are still mates and been known for since 2012 as for the owner who is a dick I don't want to know him and last heard from him in early 2013. Also my mate hasn't spoken to him since then since we both agree that he is an dumped poop.
However I did had experience from it, experienced being a moderator under a very bad poor administration which is also a shame that he also has knowledge on programing and didn't use that knowledge at all.
Never been fired. Even on sites where certain individuals wanted me to be *cough*.
I have fired others through my years owning my own sites. Most of the time it has to be fore extremely valid reasons though and not minor offenses such as someone gets offended over them.
Even fired my co-owner once in a particular project.
I have fired others through my years owning my own sites. Most of the time it has to be fore extremely valid reasons though and not minor offenses such as someone gets offended over them.
Even fired my co-owner once in a particular project.
What if they had done no real contribution?
lol very funny but isn't what you thinking that I'm thoughts are
Do you even English?
Firing, or dismissing, a member from a team is always an awkward thing to do. I have luckily only had to fire a member for inactivity, in which case the member totally understood his mistakes and later reapplied to the team and became our Head Moderator. I just sent him a polite pm, saying that he had done a great job but he just wasn't active enough and I gave him the VIP rank for his contributions. Luckily, I've never had to handle any other issues: Power abuse etc. but if I had, I proably would'nt of given them the VIP rank and relieve them of there duties quickly.
Shannon Apple
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@Myers, I wouldn't call that firing though. You removed someone for inactivity, which is pretty okay and inevitable. People go inactive ^^. We move those people to the Advisory where they still have access to the mod forums, but no powers. We can then return their powers at a later date.
Speaking of getting kicked off staff, I actually had to jump through some hoops to get it to happen for me on a graphics forum. The site used to be really popular until there was a falling out among staff. All the mods/admins left. I was a newish member and asked to step in and help since I was an experienced moderator on a big board of similar size. I refused to accept an admin position because that's not where my loyalties lay. I told them I was loyal to the anime site I helped to run and that I was there as an advisor only on the graphics site. Anyway, I got tired of the behaviour. They banned children for making sigs from images that they found on google. Good God, I mean, what the hell. They weren't being used commercially, just as fan signatures of favourite shows and things. One of the admins was in chat calling little 13 and 14 year olds "c**ts" I have self censored that word because I really hate it. This was going on for months and the site was losing activity. They wouldn't listen to reason and stop being so damn harsh and unprofessional. I had it out with them and they refused to remove me from staff. I had to go to another admin in private and ask him to remove me. I wanted them to remove all of my access because I didn't intend on viewing the inside of the mod forum ever again. They wouldn't remove my VIP access. XD. It all resulted in the main volunteer admin calling me a bleeding... and telling me to stick a tampon in my....
I actually never returned to that site and don't ever intend to. I did check on it though and my account is still a VIP, 6 years after I told them to remove me. It is still running, but completely dead as I predicted. A staff cannot behave like a crowd of schoolyard bullies. Shame because some of the mods were really nice guys, but they didn't have much of a say in how admins behaved. Last time I help out anyone that I don't know that well. XD.
Speaking of getting kicked off staff, I actually had to jump through some hoops to get it to happen for me on a graphics forum. The site used to be really popular until there was a falling out among staff. All the mods/admins left. I was a newish member and asked to step in and help since I was an experienced moderator on a big board of similar size. I refused to accept an admin position because that's not where my loyalties lay. I told them I was loyal to the anime site I helped to run and that I was there as an advisor only on the graphics site. Anyway, I got tired of the behaviour. They banned children for making sigs from images that they found on google. Good God, I mean, what the hell. They weren't being used commercially, just as fan signatures of favourite shows and things. One of the admins was in chat calling little 13 and 14 year olds "c**ts" I have self censored that word because I really hate it. This was going on for months and the site was losing activity. They wouldn't listen to reason and stop being so damn harsh and unprofessional. I had it out with them and they refused to remove me from staff. I had to go to another admin in private and ask him to remove me. I wanted them to remove all of my access because I didn't intend on viewing the inside of the mod forum ever again. They wouldn't remove my VIP access. XD. It all resulted in the main volunteer admin calling me a bleeding... and telling me to stick a tampon in my....
I actually never returned to that site and don't ever intend to. I did check on it though and my account is still a VIP, 6 years after I told them to remove me. It is still running, but completely dead as I predicted. A staff cannot behave like a crowd of schoolyard bullies. Shame because some of the mods were really nice guys, but they didn't have much of a say in how admins behaved. Last time I help out anyone that I don't know that well. XD.
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