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How'd you start them up? I mean obviously advertise advertise advertise, but go into detail. WHat made it work out?
I beg to differ. There are pretty good promotional forums out there that is going strong.Kirisute Gomen said:Mine is far from a success, but look at SEO the most. Promotion forums won't get you anywhere.
ChrisG2010 said:I beg to differ. There are pretty good promotional forums out there that is going strong.Kirisute Gomen said:Mine is far from a success, but look at SEO the most. Promotion forums won't get you anywhere.
I beg to differ with you.ChrisG2010 said:I beg to differ. There are pretty good promotional forums out there that is going strong.Kirisute Gomen said:Mine is far from a success, but look at SEO the most. Promotion forums won't get you anywhere.
Traygon said:web master forums are normally filled with wannabe kids thinking they know everything.
Damn! You must spread your reputation point to other users before giving to the same user.ℓєσ gнσѕт said:Traygon said:web master forums are normally filled with wannabe kids thinking they know everything.
Now that seems like you're talking about promotion forums 😉
Not really, previous analysis of forums I have done shows SE's providing the least amount of traffic. Forum Promotion is easy to find in Google, due to it being it's brand name, it doesn't really need to do anything to stay there. Forums get their activity from promoting on advertisement forums, SEO doesn't help new forums at all, how can it when their content is low and no quality?ℓєσ gнσѕт said:I don't know about you, but the majority of forums i'm a member on i've found while searching Google in my spare time. Heck that's how I came across FP. Note that some of these forums aren't very large, however they did some basic SEO to start with and attracted a crowd of us from Google which became their starting base, opposed to having the FP Package team as their base, which wouldn't be "active" members.
Promotion communities are around to help you learn how to "promote" - that's the main point, right? Part of promoting is advertising, no? Thus, Promotion forums should be teaching people how to advertise their forum and sites properly. They shouldn't need to visit 3rd party blogs and such if their a member on a site that already has the content that will help them learn ._.
Traygon said:web master forums are normally filled with wannabe kids thinking they know everything.
Now that seems like you're talking about promotion forums 😉
Now unless of course you happened to compile your results into a standard form of presentable media, I don't really care how many studies you do for your own personal notes. Without some sort of evidence and presentable proof, there is no reason for anyone to base their actions upon your words 🙂Traygon said:Not really, previous analysis of forums I have done shows SE's providing the least amount of traffic.
You're correct, as FP's name is branded it doesn't have to do much right now to hold it's spot, though that won't last forever unless a constant flow of backlinks appear to counter other sites that move into the niche. However I strongly disagree with the bolded statement above, this is not how most fourms gain traffic at all. Why would a gaming forum gain members from being promoted here when the core memberbase are looking for places to advertise? Now that doesn't make much sense to me... wouldn't you get more traffic from advertising on a Youtube account that you upload gaming videos to, or even advertising via signatures on major gaming boards? You are of course assuming that all new forums have "low quality" content, which isn't always the case. In example to Nathan's forum, the "content" it started with (style, and original posts) were of some of the highest quality i've ever seen. It's quite clear that if his site had ranked well in Google off the bat for his certain keywords, people would have been drawn in from the style alone, which has been proven to play a major role in translating guest traffic into a strong memberbase 😉Traygon said:Forum Promotion is easy to find in Google, due to it being it's brand name, it doesn't really need to do anything to stay there. Forums get their activity from promoting on advertisement forums, SEO doesn't help new forums at all, how can it when their content is low and no quality?
If you stop looking at it like a forum, and more as an "online business" - which it really is as you spend your time and money on it - then why do we have online marketers that get paid extremely well? It's simple, because they know the proper methods of advertising sites / services / forums / affiliate systems. They're spend time learning the different methods and approaches, and thus they can charge proper amounts of money accordingly. If they can learn these methods, why can't FP - or any other promotion site - teach their memberbase? Honestly guides you can purchase on affiliate marketing sites can work wonders when applied to forums, because no one else is exploiting them in that way.Traygon said:They are simply the means to advertise, there isn't that much to learn about promoting your forum.
The same happens on webmaster forums in general, only the audience is more suited towards the older crowd and thus it happens less often. The problem is more transparent on promotion forums, the sheer amount of drama here isn't something you'd even imagine if you were a member of a decent webmaster forum, they don't have the same issues (though they do have their own set mine you, won't say they don't).Traygon said:As for web master forums, everyone knows they contain people that think they know best. Promotion forums contain a few kids, but they normally go quiet when a more experienced member corrects them.
Try again mate 😛Traygon said:So I find your argument both false and irrelevant.
Traygon said:I wont carry on this pointless conversation as you miss each point and have to be right in every debate you enter into.
Thanks, it just means i'm a good debater really, as the point is to present your point the best you possibly can :shrug:Traygon said:I wont carry on this pointless conversation as you miss each point and have to be right in every debate you enter into.
Traygon said:I wont carry on this pointless conversation as you miss each point and have to be right in every debate you enter into.
What exactly are you referring to by saying pointless? Your argument (or lack thereof) or the topic?birdy said:Traygon said:I wont carry on this pointless conversation as you miss each point and have to be right in every debate you enter into.
Exactly why I did not answer this one .......... pointless.
Isn't one right to themselves in every debate? One who thinks something is right and somebody else who thinks something opposite is right conflict, and try to point out the holes in the other's argument? It is a matter of who presents what they think is right better than the other (like Ghost said). I could lose an argument about gun control by simply saying "I like guns", but if I present it better such as "The right to privately own guns is protected by the second amendment to the Constitution, in the same way that freedom of religion, press, assembly and speech are protected by the first amendment". Of course this argument would have no value in a country other than the USA, but you get my point (at least I hope you do).Traygon said:I wont carry on this pointless conversation as you miss each point and have to be right in every debate you enter into.
Traygon said:I wont carry on this pointless conversation as you miss each point and have to be right in every debate you enter into.
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