From a reviewers point of view

[Leon.]

Unless you are multiple personalities, though, the title should correctly read: "From a reviewer's point of view". Of course, even if you were multiple personalities, the apostrophe would be necessary after the s.

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Sorry :# I had to. But in all honesty, I agree with you that spelling and proper grammar are important.

Interesting thought, in this case "reviewers" is possessive so an apostrophe is not needed, an apostrophe should only be used to indicate a missing word or letter, to indicate the possessive, or in the case of unusual words.
By not using it, in this case, I grammatically correct

I don't see how it would indicate possession without an apostrophe, but that's okay; I was only kidding.

Edit: I looked it up. At the bottom of the article, it says it is unnecessary for joint ownership. I don't think I've heard of that before, truthfully. 😵 But it seems to go with your line of thought, since reviewers would technically own their own thoughts, through joint ownership.

 

[LunarScorpio]

Capitalisation
Capitalisation should only take place at the start of a sentence, or when a noun is used, for those who have not studied "real English", a noun is the name of person, place or thing.
So using a capital in the middle of a sentence for any other reason (other than as an acronym), is very poor grammar, so can we please see an end to "This Is My Topic", and "Lets Get Ready" styles please.

I'm just wondering if with this section of your post if you're referring to titles or use of capitalization in sentences. Using capitalization in titles is not completely the same set of rules as using it in regular sentences, at least here in the US. In titles you always capitalize the first and last word along with nouns, pronouns, adjectives, verbs, adverbs, and subordinate conjunctions.

Judging by your own grammar--the placement of commas outside of parentheses, the spelling of capitalization with an s instead of a z--you are using British-English rules. This is fine, of course, but you need to make it clear these are the rules you are referring to and not American-English. American-English rules dictate that commas go within parentheses, that capitalization is typically spelled with a z and also that in titles most words short of prepositions, articles (direct or indirect) and a few others be capitalized--that includes adjectives and the like. So, when you judge someone's grammar and punctuation, you should also take a moment and consider which style of English they are using and judge by that style's rules, not your own style's, otherwise you come across as being narrow-minded.

 

[Migi]

Interesting thought, in this case "reviewers" is possessive so an apostrophe is not needed, an apostrophe should only be used to indicate a missing word or letter, to indicate the possessive, or in the case of unusual words.

You are contradicting yourself. Read the sentence again. ^^;

As far as I know, apostrophes must be used to show possession, no matter what kind of English you use. In term of singular subject, you will use apostrophe with the addition of s after it. For example: sapper's. But for plural subjects, you use the apostrophe only without s. For example: reviewers'.

I also never heard of using apostrophe to replace a word or a letter; most widely known is the usage of asterisks (*).

Not trying to criticize, just sharing. 😉

 

[Tressy]

I also never heard of using apostrophe to replace a word or a letter; most widely known is the usage of asterisks (*).

You're right about the apostrophe. I think it should be "reviewer's". And it probably means like, "I got pk'd" whereby the apostrophe replaces the letter e. 🙂

 

[Migi]

And it probably means like, "I got pk'd" whereby the apostrophe replaces the letter e. 🙂

Ah, okay, I forget about that, LOL~ Thanks for the reminder! I thought it was kind of informal. XD

 

[David]

Interesting thought, in this case "reviewers" is possessive so an apostrophe is not needed, an apostrophe should only be used to indicate a missing word or letter, to indicate the possessive, or in the case of unusual words.
By not using it, in this case, I grammatically correct

If it is possessive, it requires an apostrophe. We say, "David's website" not "Davids website". The apostrophe in my example does not indicate a missing word; it indicates possession.

Also, that should have been, "I am grammatically correct.", even though you were not.

 

[sapper]

As this thread is proving, English grammar is very difficult to learn, even to some native speakers.

An apostrophe is the most commonly misused part of English grammar

ie:

"Do not" becomes "don't", the apostrophe indicates the missing 'o'.

I'm not up to giving full English lessons because it may contradict what some non English people have been taught, however my experience of so called American English is like a lot of things American, they make it up as they go along, with rules to suit themselves.

 

[VirusZero]

I was taught in University that the most misused punctuation mark was the comma. (Naturally this could be a regional mistake as opposed to a worldwide one... Though you should also consider this possibility for the apostrophe too. Unless you happen to have some hard data showing apostrophe use versus misuse in the various parts of the world?)

But the point remains that there is a significant variation to the use of the English language. So to attempt to hold everyone accountable to one standard, who's ever that is, is ridiculous. And your arguments here have only proven just how foolish it is. Besides we all make mistakes when we're typing posts. (Did you forget a period somewhere in your last post?)

We've all been taught slightly differently because different regions have different teaching standards and the variation between individual teachers is vast (even among one country). Thusly it is also foolish to assume that just because you've had English lessons by one teacher that you are a master at the language and thus are qualified to be correcting others.

And at the end of the day, has it really significantly affected your life that someone has used: "color" instead of "colour" or "realize" instead of "realise"?

I will also point out that no one is asking or telling you to give up your lessons. What I am telling you (I cannot speak for others here) to give up is the attitude that you must go correct everyone.

 

[sapper]

If I were a qualified typist then I would be expected to remember things like a full stop, at the end of every sentence, as I am not, then I do tend to forget them. Using handwriting I would expect to get it right each time.

Al I have expresses here is an opinion, that is all it is, having an opinion is not foolish, it is a right, for every one, not exercising that right is foolish.

 

[Geoffrey]

If I were a qualified typist then I would be expected to remember things like a full stop, at the end of every sentence, as I am not, then I do tend to forget them. Using handwriting I would expect to get it right each time.

Al I have expresses here is an opinion, that is all it is, having an opinion is not foolish, it is a right, for every one, not exercising that right is foolish.

Calling American English "illiterate" is not an opinion, it's rude. Millions of people speak and use American English, and the entire nation of the United States is not illiterate.

 

[sapper]

If I were a qualified typist then I would be expected to remember things like a full stop, at the end of every sentence, as I am not, then I do tend to forget them. Using handwriting I would expect to get it right each time.

Al I have expresses here is an opinion, that is all it is, having an opinion is not foolish, it is a right, for every one, not exercising that right is foolish.

Calling American English "illiterate" is not an opinion, it's rude. Millions of people speak and use American English, and the entire nation of the United States is not illiterate.

Stop twisting my words Geoffrey, what I actually wrote was :

American English came about due to the illiteracy of the pioneers, and the amount of races that colonised the USA in it's formative years. Or so I was taught.

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That in no way refers to the American nation of today being illiterate, apart from the Quakers who were well educated by 1600 standards, the rest of the "English" migrants to the America's were in the main a mixture of fortune seekers, crooks, soldiers and sailors, literacy in the lower classes then was virtually unheard of.

 

[Singkol Promo]

Great post, but I also have to take issue with deducting points for American English. From elementary all the way through college level education I've been taught to use American versions of the word. When I saw UK spellings of certain words I actually thought they were wrong spellings at first.

While this is an unfortunate byproduct of the American education system, I believe that both spellings being correct should warrant an equal field of judgement as far as ratings go. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the American version of the language stemmed from illiteracy, but there is a difference between misspelling a word and using an acceptable and completely recognizable form of the world on a global scale.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Great post, but I also have to take issue with deducting points for American English. From elementary all the way through college level education I've been taught to use American versions of the word. When I saw UK spellings of certain words I actually thought they were wrong spellings at first.

While this is an unfortunate byproduct of the American education system, I believe that both spellings being correct should warrant an equal field of judgement as far as ratings go. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the American version of the language stemmed from illiteracy, but there is a difference between misspelling a word and using an acceptable and completely recognizable form of the world on a global scale.

I'm going to have to agree with this. I do agree that UK English is better and more correct in many ways, but people from the U.S. can't help being taught U.S. English in school.

 

[David]

As this thread is proving, English grammar is very difficult to learn, even to some native speakers.

An apostrophe is the most commonly misused part of English grammar

ie:

"Do not" becomes "don't", the apostrophe indicates the missing 'o'.

I'm not up to giving full English lessons because it may contradict what some non English people have been taught, however my experience of so called American English is like a lot of things American, they make it up as they go along, with rules to suit themselves.

The apostrophe also indicates possession. I bring you to a credible and authoritative source, by far more authoritative than you: http://www.lc.unsw.edu.au/onlib/punc.html

As it says:

2. Possessives
An apostrophe is used to indicate ownership/possession with nouns. To show ownership by a single individual, insert the apostrophe between the noun and the 's'. To show ownership by more than one individual, use the apostrophe at the end of the word.

You've made far more errors in your original post than anyone else's single reply. You used commas in incorrect places where you attempted to use them as conjunctions. You have a 104 word sentence which doesn't flow. Your claim about the use of 're' instead of 'er' isn't always accurate. "Thermometer" uses 're' because we use "meter" to reflect an object which measures, e.g. a water meter.

My biggest problem with what you're saying is that you are claiming to be an authority of the English language, yet you provide no evidence of your qualifications. It's alright to make suggestions on improvements, but claiming you have qualifications, and then making erroneous posts doesn't reflect too well.

If I were a qualified typist then I would be expected to remember things like a full stop, at the end of every sentence, as I am not, then I do tend to forget them. Using handwriting I would expect to get it right each time.

The use of a period is very much part of the English language and is a grammatical issue, i.e. punctuation.

 

[Expired Account 3]

You've made far more errors in your original post than anyone else's single reply. You used commas in incorrect places where you attempted to use them as conjunctions. You have a 104 word sentence which doesn't flow. Your claim about the use of 're' instead of 'er' isn't always accurate. "Thermometer" uses 're' because we use "meter" to reflect an object which measures, e.g. a water meter.

My biggest problem with what you're saying is that you are claiming to be an authority of the English language, yet you provide no evidence of your qualifications. It's alright to make suggestions on improvements, but claiming you have qualifications, and then making erroneous posts doesn't reflect too well.

I agree here.

I kept coming back to this thread and thinking if I should post my own opinion. But I kept reading sapper's replies and every time I was questioning myself as to under what qualifications is he making such remarks; even his own post(s) ranting about proper English isn't exactly..proper.

Both English "language" are correct and proper, agreed American seems lazier, but to saying one is better than the other or one should be used opposed to another...is simply being bias.

 

[sapper]

As this thread is proving, English grammar is very difficult to learn, even to some native speakers.

An apostrophe is the most commonly misused part of English grammar

ie:

"Do not" becomes "don't", the apostrophe indicates the missing 'o'.

I'm not up to giving full English lessons because it may contradict what some non English people have been taught, however my experience of so called American English is like a lot of things American, they make it up as they go along, with rules to suit themselves.

The apostrophe also indicates possession. I bring you to a credible and authoritative source, by far more authoritative than you: http://www.lc.unsw.edu.au/onlib/punc.html

As it says:

2. Possessives
An apostrophe is used to indicate ownership/possession with nouns. To show ownership by a single individual, insert the apostrophe between the noun and the 's'. To show ownership by more than one individual, use the apostrophe at the end of the word.

You've made far more errors in your original post than anyone else's single reply. You used commas in incorrect places where you attempted to use them as conjunctions. You have a 104 word sentence which doesn't flow. Your claim about the use of 're' instead of 'er' isn't always accurate. "Thermometer" uses 're' because we use "meter" to reflect an object which measures, e.g. a water meter.

My biggest problem with what you're saying is that you are claiming to be an authority of the English language, yet you provide no evidence of your qualifications. It's alright to make suggestions on improvements, but claiming you have qualifications, and then making erroneous posts doesn't reflect too well.

If I were a qualified typist then I would be expected to remember things like a full stop, at the end of every sentence, as I am not, then I do tend to forget them. Using handwriting I would expect to get it right each time.

The use of a period is very much part of the English language and is a grammatical issue, i.e. punctuation.

I think you should of read my OP, where I quite clearly state this.

 

[Geoffrey]

Great post, but I also have to take issue with deducting points for American English. From elementary all the way through college level education I've been taught to use American versions of the word. When I saw UK spellings of certain words I actually thought they were wrong spellings at first.

While this is an unfortunate byproduct of the American education system, I believe that both spellings being correct should warrant an equal field of judgement as far as ratings go. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the American version of the language stemmed from illiteracy, but there is a difference between misspelling a word and using an acceptable and completely recognizable form of the world on a global scale.

I'm going to have to agree with this. I do agree that UK English is better and more correct in many ways, but people from the U.S. can't help being taught U.S. English in school.

That's purely your opinion so you should stop presenting it as fact.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Great post, but I also have to take issue with deducting points for American English. From elementary all the way through college level education I've been taught to use American versions of the word. When I saw UK spellings of certain words I actually thought they were wrong spellings at first.

While this is an unfortunate byproduct of the American education system, I believe that both spellings being correct should warrant an equal field of judgement as far as ratings go. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the American version of the language stemmed from illiteracy, but there is a difference between misspelling a word and using an acceptable and completely recognizable form of the world on a global scale.

I'm going to have to agree with this. I do agree that UK English is better and more correct in many ways, but people from the U.S. can't help being taught U.S. English in school.

That's purely your opinion so you should stop presenting it as fact.

I wasn't trying to present that opinion as a fact. I said that I agree, which implied that it was purely an opinion and not fact.

 

[Jake]

As this thread is proving, English grammar is very difficult to learn, even to some native speakers.

An apostrophe is the most commonly misused part of English grammar

ie:

"Do not" becomes "don't", the apostrophe indicates the missing 'o'.

I'm not up to giving full English lessons because it may contradict what some non English people have been taught, however my experience of so called American English is like a lot of things American, they make it up as they go along, with rules to suit themselves.

The apostrophe also indicates possession. I bring you to a credible and authoritative source, by far more authoritative than you: http://www.lc.unsw.edu.au/onlib/punc.html

As it says:

2. Possessives
An apostrophe is used to indicate ownership/possession with nouns. To show ownership by a single individual, insert the apostrophe between the noun and the 's'. To show ownership by more than one individual, use the apostrophe at the end of the word.

You've made far more errors in your original post than anyone else's single reply. You used commas in incorrect places where you attempted to use them as conjunctions. You have a 104 word sentence which doesn't flow. Your claim about the use of 're' instead of 'er' isn't always accurate. "Thermometer" uses 're' because we use "meter" to reflect an object which measures, e.g. a water meter.

My biggest problem with what you're saying is that you are claiming to be an authority of the English language, yet you provide no evidence of your qualifications. It's alright to make suggestions on improvements, but claiming you have qualifications, and then making erroneous posts doesn't reflect too well.

If I were a qualified typist then I would be expected to remember things like a full stop, at the end of every sentence, as I am not, then I do tend to forget them. Using handwriting I would expect to get it right each time.

The use of a period is very much part of the English language and is a grammatical issue, i.e. punctuation.

I think you should of read my OP, where I quite clearly state this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that "should of" supposed to be "should've"?

 

[Leon.]

Nice catch. 😉