Going 'Green'

[Justin]

Everything today is supposed to be good for the enviroment and such. (Hating the smaller cars)

I don't support any of this or try to help, my reasons are because why care now? 10 years of cleaning up the best we can can't make up for 30 years of muck and waste, just because a scientist wanted to bring up an old topic doesn't mean it should be a worldwide delema.

Personally, I do think global warming is fake, it is snowing in texas, during spring, i almost cried, also, there is no true evidence. Go to the north pole, or south pole, whichever they refer to, snow capped. They all use the same horrible melting snow picture. One place.

 

[Cosmic]

Global warning is a gigantic pile of fear mongering built up by scientists who fear for their jobs. Just think if climate change were to be proved bogus? A lot of scientists would lose their jobs and Al Gore would be humiliated. Politics is the main issue, in my opinion, not genuine fear for the environment. They really have no proof at all, which really brings up the question: why be so alarmist about it? Policy to "help the environment" results in some of the least efficient ever made. Ideas like "carbon taxes" focus on giving politicians $$$, not saving the polar bears. Liberals tap into emotions all the time, even if the problems are bogus or over-played.

 

[Antarctic]

It's happening, if you actually look at the facts, you will see, you would have to be blind to miss them.

Besides, I'm doing my best to help save this planet, and if you don't want to help, that's fine, there's plenty of others who are willing to do so.

 

[Black Angel]

Barring all that has been said thus far, with respect to whether or not it is a scam, and the uncertainty surrounding this issue.. would it really kill us to be smarter in the way we use energy? Especially if, doing so would save us money in the long run? Would it be so terrible to actually think twice about our impact on the environment? Is it really that bad of an idea to conserve energy, instead of wasting it?

Or is there something else going on here?

If Global Warming isn't as big of a threat as it was originally thought to be, what exactly is the problem with being smart about the energy we use? What is wrong with looking at other viable alternatives to what we have now?

I don't believe that Global Warming is as big of a threat either.. in fact, I believe that it is part of a cycle.. where one period we'll go through warming, while on another, we'll go through cooling.. like the seasons, just on a much larger scale.

With that being said, if changing my bulbs from incandescent to compact fluorescent will save me money on electricity and bulbs, if using bio-diesel will make the air cleaner, or more pleasant to breathe and save me money on gas and keep my car running smoothly, if using a hybrid or fuel-efficient vehicle will save me a few trips to the pump, if using bamboo flooring will save me the $$ and a tree or two in the process since, a tree can take up to 60 years to reach full height, versus, bamboo, which only takes a few months and if using a catchment tank will save me the cost of water then so be it.

I am all for going green if it saves me green in the long run. I won't go overboard and go as far as installing a catchment tank, or even look for a house with one, or buy a hybrid car or make my own bio-diesel for that matter.. but I will certainly do the other things I mentioned, if not for the environment, then for my wallet.

 

[cityStatic]

Global warming is so fake it makes me laugh. First off, how can the greenhouse effect be caused by Co2? Co2 molecules are so heavy they can't rise high enough to produce the greenhouse effect. Second of all, temperatures over the last 100 years have risen by 0.7 degrees Fahrenheit! We all know that temperatures on Earth fluctuate, and .7 degrees is well within the fluctuation range. Also, explain how record high snowfall can happen (snow relies on temperature) if there is "global warming."

 

[death180]

@antarctic

Wow, i like how you weren't like most people and you just said, "fine, there are other people who will." Most people freak out and send you 50 angry PM's.

@cosmic

I completely agree with everything you have said. But a few scientists have actually confessed and said that they made up that evidence to save their jobs. So some people completely made it up, but everyone has their one opinion on things.

Do you know what i say?

I am only going to live till MAYBE 2080, maybe. Depending on how healthy i am through my life.

Wait a second...

WOOHOO! 70 more years to go!


Anyway, the world is not going to be destroyed in 70 years. And once i am dead, i don't care what happens, i'm dead!

 

[Mike]

Barring all that has been said thus far, with respect to whether or not it is a scam, and the uncertainty surrounding this issue.. would it really kill us to be smarter in the way we use energy?

This.

I'm not really sure whether Global Warming is true or a fake, It wouldn't surprise me each way.

One thing that gets to me is the government trying to make us feel guilty, as in countries like the US - Trucks are rather popular, yes, hybrids are becoming popular, but they're normally parked on the drive next to an SUV, and in hollywood, next to supercars that average 8-10 mpg. I think Europe is rather ahead when it comes to MPG, VW's bluemotion cars are just astonishing, 70-80 MPG, Hummers (RIP 😛) get 4-5.

I don't really believe the earth is warming up, But I wholeheartedly believe that the big issue is how much oil there is on the planet, The reserves won't last forever, So that's why we need to be more green, not because of global warming.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Going 'Green'

is the biggest marketing scam of all time. You know how many people would pay $3 more for a $10 product if the product said it was green, saving polar bears, and planting trees? Tons.

 

[Justin M]

Going 'Green'

is the biggest marketing scam of all time. You know how many people would pay $3 more for a $10 product if the product said it was green, saving polar bears, and planting trees? Tons.

QFT. Like Mike said the government & activists are trying to guilt us into all this eco friendly bs. If I want to drive a car that gets three hundred feet to a gallon of gas, then I'm going to.

 

[Antarctic]

QFT. Like Mike said the government & activists are trying to guilt us into all this eco friendly bs. If I want to drive a car that gets three hundred feet to a gallon of gas, then I'm going to.

The Government doesn't do anything, activists are not trying to guilt you into anything, it's up to you what you want to do, but the thing is, there's is obviously people out there that care, else all of this wouldn't be happening, being eco-friendly is a big thing, we have distroyed this planet, facts have shown, if we keep fishing like the way we do, the oceans will be full of dirt and worms within 50 years and we will be dead, so think yourself lucky, if these "eco friendly bullshit activists" were not around, you would be dead.

 

[Cosmic]

@antarctic: http://vancityguy.files.wordpress.com/2 ... _cars1.jpg . I don't mind what you do to help save the environment. normal people can do a good job to help the environment by moderating energy use and not recycling. Those are good things I support but do not believe should be mandated. When the government sticks its nose into anything, it becomes a giant and inefficient bureaucracy.

@black Angel: Turning off the lights is one thing, but spending huge wads of cash on re-engineering technologies to be more echo freindly is another. On the contrary, "going green" usually costs $$$ when done on a large scale.

@Gomen: Amen.

@Justin M. Ditto.

@Antarctic (part 2):

it's up to you what you want to do

So does that mean I can opt out of health insurance, dodge the full body scanners, and sneak past the carbon taxes?

 

[Antarctic]

@antarctic: http://vancityguy.files.wordpress.com/2 ... _cars1.jpg . I don't mind what you do to help save the environment. normal people can do a good job to help the environment by moderating energy use and not recycling. Those are good things I support but do not believe should be mandated. When the government sticks its nose into anything, it becomes a giant and inefficient bureaucracy.

it's up to you what you want to do

So does that mean I can opt out of health insurance, dodge the full body scanners, and sneak past the carbon taxes?

What does any of that have to do with going Green? No one is talking about Health Insurance or Body Scanners here.

No-one is forcing you to buy green products, or are they trying to make it mandatory, they are merely promoting them if people do want to use them, hence why i said you can do what you want, there will always be people who will do it and help save the planet, even if others don't.

 

[el canadiano]

Cutting on meat consumption is much better for the environment than getting a fuel efficient car, believe it or not. The hormones and corn that they use to feed livestock actually have increased their own methane consumption, believe it or not. Methane is a bigger greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide and water.

Doing stuff around your home is great, but getting your workplace to consume less electricity is even bigger. My dad's bills have gone down. We rarely use the air conditioner these days, and we even stopped using the dryer. We're also transitioning to replace desktops with laptops. Now, I'm convincing him to get a gas oven/stovetop.

If anything, do it for your health rather than for "global warming." Weather and climate do change naturally (hence climate change is the better term), but human intervention is changing the way climate changes. If anything, I invite you all to take a trip to the arctic to see what stuff has been happening up there.

 

[Cosmic]

@Antarctic: I am referring to the idea that the government should force industry to "go green". Those things were examples of things the government is making mandatory.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Global warming is there, and it is here to stay. It is scientifically proven, the debate about it in the scientific community is whether or not it is caused by humans, not whether or not it is actually real.

Now, with that said, I am hardly the "ultra-environmentalist". I have a normal car, I didn't shut off my lights for earth night, and I don't believe that by using the back of a sheet of paper we are saving trees. I do recycle most of my bottles, and all of my newspaper, though. I also believe in Green Energy opportunities, I think we should be exploring solar power, wind power, and other green energy methods. Not really because of the environment, but because we should stop relying on foreign oil from middle eastern dictators. The great benefit it has to the environment is only a bonus.

It just bothers me when people think they are smarter than scientists and believe that they can say global warming is fake by pulling evidence out of their asses or from the Christian Science Institute.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

I do recycle most of my bottles, and all of my newspaper, though. I also believe in Green Energy opportunities, I think we should be exploring solar power, wind power, and other green energy methods. Not really because of the environment, but because we should stop relying on foreign oil from middle eastern dictators. The great benefit it has to the environment is only a bonus.

Absolutely agree. I recycle as well, though some things like glass cost almost as much to recycle as to produce new glass. I believe that recycling is great, but if you're dumpster diving to crush every yogurt container to save the baby penguins, there's a huge problem there.

 

[Cosmic]

@Irviding: On the contrary, it bothers me when scientists/politicians think they are smarter than us. I recycle too, as a side note.

 

[katy perry is hot]

@Irviding: On the contrary, it bothers me when scientists/politicians think they are smarter than us. I recycle too, as a side note.

Well, I'm pretty sure any Scientist is smarter than me, politicians, probably not 😛

 

[SIO]

I nearly want to puke when I see the packaging of "green" products. In many cases, the packaging itself is extremely wasteful. It is largely a marketing ploy so the sheeple may spend their money and feel good.

Common sense such as energy reduction and independence are the key.

 

[Rich Edmonds]

I nearly want to puke when I see the packaging of "green" products. In many cases, the packaging itself is extremely wasteful. It is largely a marketing ploy so the sheeple may spend their money and feel good.

Common sense such as energy reduction and independence are the key.

I agree with you 110%, sir.