Grades vs Actuall Knowledge

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As one of those people that are horrible in school, but is pretty smart outside of school. Grades just make me feel like a complete idiot. So, what do you think is more important ( Besides for College, Job reasons..) Grades or Actual knowledge?
 
I prefer actual knowledge. There are too many ways to game the system in school. A lot of the people who ranked highly in my class didn't know crap. They just cheated and memorized their way to the top. There are some smart people who get good grades, but the two don't always go hand in hand. It's not about the grades; it's about the learning.
 
I prefer actual knowledge, but without grades..you are going to get no where unless you get REALLY lucky somehow.
 
Grades don't reflect any real life knowledge at all. Anybody can memorize something 🙂 It's a matter of keeping it fresh in your brain for 20 years.
 
It's funny how many 'clever' people actually lack in common sense.

Grades are nice when you're in school, but when you head out into the real world, they're meaningless and it all comes down to what you can do and how you handle situations. It's unlikely that you'll learn to handle those situations from a book.
 
fantanoice said:
It's funny how many 'clever' people actually lack in common sense.

Grades are nice when you're in school, but when you head out into the real world, they're meaningless and it all comes down to what you can do and how you handle situations. It's unlikely that you'll learn to handle those situations from a book.

100% true. But how will you get into the real world with D's and C's..besides working at fast food forever. Not trying to be rude to anyone in that last statement.
 
I'll go with Grades, as a change from the above. Yes when it comes to the real world, grades mean nothing, and you need that knowledge, but what real world when you don't have the marks to get into university to begin with? Everything in life is a process and to link each process to another is a grade, and then once you've finished university, then you can apply that knowledge you have for the real world.

Note it does take a great mind to memorize things. Not everyone can memorize whole essays or reports, and be knowledgeable.
 
Volux said:
fantanoice said:
It's funny how many 'clever' people actually lack in common sense.

Grades are nice when you're in school, but when you head out into the real world, they're meaningless and it all comes down to what you can do and how you handle situations. It's unlikely that you'll learn to handle those situations from a book.

100% true. But how will you get into the real world with D's and C's..besides working at fast food forever. Not trying to be rude to anyone in that last statement.
There's always a way. Networking is a possible way (and is generally a lot more likely to get you a position than 'school marks').

It's not what you know, it's who you know... so to speak.
 
I'm all for education, I believe everyone should graduate highschool and at least attend a college.

Now on the othe hand...dedicating your life to get docterines in every study is a complete waste of your life.

When you die...your degrees stay here.
 
Yeah, but you probably wouldn't know someone if you were constantly failing at school. You should at least have a respectable stance in the community and then you will get to know people a whole lot easier.
 
I don't go to school, but i always found grades pointless, not just because i got bad ones, but i don't need some teacher who went to college to tell me what i do and don't know.

I am quite a smart person when i want to be, just that school never was something that i was interested in or bothered with.
 
fantanoice said:
Volux said:
fantanoice said:
It's funny how many 'clever' people actually lack in common sense.

Grades are nice when you're in school, but when you head out into the real world, they're meaningless and it all comes down to what you can do and how you handle situations. It's unlikely that you'll learn to handle those situations from a book.

100% true. But how will you get into the real world with D's and C's..besides working at fast food forever. Not trying to be rude to anyone in that last statement.
There's always a way. Networking is a possible way (and is generally a lot more likely to get you a position than 'school marks').

It's not what you know, it's who you know... so to speak.

And you are going to network and make a living off of that?

1) Networking will take a few years to get going..

2) How can you network with no money?

A good education, meaning grades, is key too a good job and life.
 
Volux said:
fantanoice said:
Volux said:
fantanoice said:
It's funny how many 'clever' people actually lack in common sense.

Grades are nice when you're in school, but when you head out into the real world, they're meaningless and it all comes down to what you can do and how you handle situations. It's unlikely that you'll learn to handle those situations from a book.

100% true. But how will you get into the real world with D's and C's..besides working at fast food forever. Not trying to be rude to anyone in that last statement.
There's always a way. Networking is a possible way (and is generally a lot more likely to get you a position than 'school marks').

It's not what you know, it's who you know... so to speak.

And you are going to network and make a living off of that?

1) Networking will take a few years to get going..

2) How can you network with no money?

A good education, meaning grades, is key too a good job and life.
I was giving an example. I never said it was a better option.
 
Volux said:
fantanoice said:
Volux said:
fantanoice said:
It's funny how many 'clever' people actually lack in common sense.

Grades are nice when you're in school, but when you head out into the real world, they're meaningless and it all comes down to what you can do and how you handle situations. It's unlikely that you'll learn to handle those situations from a book.

100% true. But how will you get into the real world with D's and C's..besides working at fast food forever. Not trying to be rude to anyone in that last statement.
There's always a way. Networking is a possible way (and is generally a lot more likely to get you a position than 'school marks').

It's not what you know, it's who you know... so to speak.

And you are going to network and make a living off of that?

1) Networking will take a few years to get going..

2) How can you network with no money?

A good education, meaning grades, is key too a good job and life.

Well, here in Australia, Grades don't really count for anything, atleast for what i want to do anyway.

Might be different in American but here you can go to "Tafe" (basically a hands on college) you don't need good grades, you don't need to have perfect A's like people say, you just have to show common sense on a test, and they will accept you.
 
Antarctic said:
Well, here in Australia, Grades don't really count for anything, atleast for what i want to do anyway.

Might be different in American but here you can go to "Tafe" (basically a hands on college) you don't need good grades, you don't need to have perfect A's like people say, you just have to show common sense on a test, and they will accept you.

What?! That's just your case, but for many thousands, grades do count. What industry would you like to go into? With TAFE, you won't get the best job out there, just a decent job, provided that job allows a TAFE credential, which many don't (you need a degree). With University, like ANU, you have a better chance of getting a higher pay and skilled job, generally speaking.
 
In today's world, grades are apparently more important.

In reality, grades don't reflect intelligence or knowledge at all. Grades only reflect your ability to memorize information, and how much effort you put into school work.

I hate how kids judge whether or not an individual is "smart" only based on his/her grades.
 
Mr. Green said:
In today's world, grades are apparently more important.

In reality, grades don't reflect intelligence or knowledge at all. Grades only reflect your ability to memorize information, and how much effort you put into school work.

I hate how kids judge whether or not an individual is "smart" only based on his/her grades.

This is what employers like, though. They want to see that you have put effort into completing a task, and so it gives them more reason to employ you.
 
dotDavid said:
Mr. Green said:
In today's world, grades are apparently more important.

In reality, grades don't reflect intelligence or knowledge at all. Grades only reflect your ability to memorize information, and how much effort you put into school work.

I hate how kids judge whether or not an individual is "smart" only based on his/her grades.

This is what employers like, though. They want to see that you have put effort into completing a task, and so it gives them more reason to employ you.

Never said otherwise. That's why grades are more important.
 
dotDavid said:
Antarctic said:
Well, here in Australia, Grades don't really count for anything, atleast for what i want to do anyway.

Might be different in American but here you can go to "Tafe" (basically a hands on college) you don't need good grades, you don't need to have perfect A's like people say, you just have to show common sense on a test, and they will accept you.

What?! That's just your case, but for many thousands, grades do count. What industry would you like to go into? With TAFE, you won't get the best job out there, just a decent job, provided that job allows a TAFE credential, which many don't (you need a degree). With University, like ANU, you have a better chance of getting a higher pay and skilled job, generally speaking.
Depends on the profession. After all, a lot of Universities base their courses around theoretical work while TAFEs are more practical. For things like engineering, design and computers, employers would rather you be able to 'do' the work than read it.
 
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