Gun Control in the US

[Deleted member 1609]

Besides, as a United States Citizen, I don't necessarily WANT my country to be more like non-western countries.

Norway and the UK aren't western countries?! Norway is about as western as it gets.

In fact, Norway was rated as the most democratic country in the world in 2010. The United States didn't even crack the top ten.

 

[alfred01]

Well, metaphorically, a damn box-cutter won't kill a person either, but by your logic, Snobo, we should ban box-cutters because they killed some 3,000ish people on 9-11. So let's get together and ban box-cutters too! Lets ban knives as well. Let's ban ropes, since you can hang someone. See my point here?

Besides, as a United States Citizen, I don't necessarily WANT my country to be more like non-western countries. No offense to any other country out there, but I value my civil rights--and it is in our constitution that citizens of the United States have the right to bear arms. I value that right, and I value the constitution. So just because every other country is doing it, doesn't mean I want the country I live in doing it.

SilverWolf, with all due respect, the first paragraph, yes I do see your point and it's not a very good one. Killing someone with a gun is miles apart from killing someone with a knife. Their not in the same league. Most murder's by gunshot would never happen if the person doing the killing had to actually confront the victim with a knife instead of just pulling a trigger. Second, you might want to actually read over your Constitution because nowhere in there is there anything about "citizens" having the right to bear arms. A very common misconception by people in the U.S. I'll bet it really pi**es you off that a Canadian had to tell you that!

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Second, you might want to actually read over your Constitution because nowhere in there is there anything about "citizens" having the right to bear arms. A very common misconception by people in the U.S. I'll bet it really pi**es you off that a Canadian had to tell you that!

"A well regulated militia..."

 

[NBK*Twitch]

Well, metaphorically, a damn box-cutter won't kill a person either, but by your logic, Snobo, we should ban box-cutters because they killed some 3,000ish people on 9-11. So let's get together and ban box-cutters too! Lets ban knives as well. Let's ban ropes, since you can hang someone. See my point here?

Besides, as a United States Citizen, I don't necessarily WANT my country to be more like non-western countries. No offense to any other country out there, but I value my civil rights--and it is in our constitution that citizens of the United States have the right to bear arms. I value that right, and I value the constitution. So just because every other country is doing it, doesn't mean I want the country I live in doing it.

SilverWolf, with all due respect, the first paragraph, yes I do see your point and it's not a very good one. Killing someone with a gun is miles apart from killing someone with a knife. Their not in the same league. Most murder's by gunshot would never happen if the person doing the killing had to actually confront the victim with a knife instead of just pulling a trigger. Second, you might want to actually read over your Constitution because nowhere in there is there anything about "citizens" having the right to bear arms. A very common misconception by people in the U.S. I'll bet it really pi**es you off that a Canadian had to tell you that!

Maybe so but ,In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Maybe so but ,In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

I think this mostly stems from the fact that the Supreme Court has a well-known conservative bias. For example, Samuel Alito thinks that the government can't stop citizens from possessing fully automatic firearms.

 

[Gimgak]

Gun control would never work in the south so there's no need to try. It works when not every house in the south has an average of 2 guns per family member lol.

 

[NBK*Twitch]

Gun control would never work in the south so there's no need to try. It works when not every house in the south has an average of 2 guns per family member lol.

Hey.... I take offense to that I only have one gun.. :lol:

 

[Gimgak]

That is odd indeed. Your neighbor probably has 3 then, that would explain it.

 

[NBK*Twitch]

That is odd indeed. Your neighbor probably has 3 then, that would explain it.

He has more then that... :lol: Ofcourse he is a hunter so that makes sense.

 

[alfred01]

Second, you might want to actually read over your Constitution because nowhere in there is there anything about "citizens" having the right to bear arms. A very common misconception by people in the U.S. I'll bet it really pi**es you off that a Canadian had to tell you that!

"A well regulated militia..."

Precisely SnoBOO, and even then it has to be at a time when the U.S. is under attack by an invading army. Another point that I don't believe anyone has mentioned when comparing homicide rates in the U.S. compared to other countries, the U.S. has the third highest population in the world. Should the per capita formula not be involved in these calculation's?

 

[death180]

That is odd indeed. Your neighbor probably has 3 then, that would explain it.

He has more then that... :lol: Ofcourse he is a hunter so that makes sense.

See, the universe balances itself at the end of the day :cheer:

 

[classicdailies]

A gun is a tool it does not have the capacity to make a decision as a result the gun itself is not a killer it is the person that wields that weapon whether they intend to harm or not they are the one that pulled the trigger.

Personally I see no reason for a person to have a gun there primary and only purpose is to inflict injury where as most other things have a different purpose. I think you are far more likely to act rashly and kill someone if you have an easy means to do it at hand.

Also if you must posses a firearm keep it unloaded as the fact you have to load the weapon gives you more time to think about what you are doing and find a better solution.

If have shot weapons but I target shoot and the one thing that drills in more than anything else is this.

You don't point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot. My instructor was accused of playing around and pointing his gun at a mate his defence was this. "If I had pointed it at him hed have a hole in his belly now!)

 

[death180]

What if you are being mugged, you don't want to have to load your weapon because a split second can mean life or death, imagine a couple seconds to load it.