Holding parents responsible for school shootings

[Gizmo]

I’m watching this 60 Minutes segment on YouTube about holding parents responsible for school shootings, and I honestly don’t understand the logic behind it.

How is it automatically the parents’ fault? Sure, in situations where the household is clearly negligent or the parents are doing harmful things, there might be some responsibility there. But many parents genuinely try their best to raise their kids with good values and instincts. Sometimes things still go wrong despite that. It feels overly simplistic to place all the blame on parents when the issue is obviously much more complex.

 

[Katrina]

I’m watching this 60 Minutes segment on YouTube about holding parents responsible for school shootings, and I honestly don’t understand the logic behind it.

How is it automatically the parents’ fault? Sure, in situations where the household is clearly negligent or the parents are doing harmful things, there might be some responsibility there. But many parents genuinely try their best to raise their kids with good values and instincts. Sometimes things still go wrong despite that. It feels overly simplistic to place all the blame on parents when the issue is obviously much more complex.

I think parents need to have some responsibility for what their children do. Look at it this way, if a child were to rip up a library book, who pays for that? Not the child since kids can't work and not all receive an allowance.

Having parents share some responsibility could force them to be more diligent in knowing where their kids are and what they're up to instead of their faces being in their own phones. I don't think parents need to bear the brunt of it all, but they do need to have some sort of consequences for the actions of their children until their kids are 18.

 

[Krissycakes09]

I think parents need to have some responsibility for what their children do. Look at it this way, if a child were to rip up a library book, who pays for that? Not the child since kids can't work and not all receive an allowance.

Having parents share some responsibility could force them to be more diligent in knowing where their kids are and what they're up to instead of their faces being in their own phones. I don't think parents need to bear the brunt of it all, but they do need to have some sort of consequences for the actions of their children until their kids are 18.

I agree with what you've said @Katrina 👍

 

[Page]

I don’t think it’s automatically the parents’ fault. Sometimes parents genuinely try their best and still don’t see the warning signs. Unless there’s clear negligence, blaming them for everything feels too simplistic for such a complex issue.

 

[MrDawn]

I think parents need to have some responsibility for what their children do. Look at it this way, if a child were to rip up a library book, who pays for that? Not the child since kids can't work and not all receive an allowance.

Having parents share some responsibility could force them to be more diligent in knowing where their kids are and what they're up to instead of their faces being in their own phones. I don't think parents need to bear the brunt of it all, but they do need to have some sort of consequences for the actions of their children until their kids are 18.

I feel the same way. I have noticed that a lot of kids are rude, inconsiderate, and don't respect boundaries at all. I was discussing this with someone I know who works at the high school where my daughter used to go before she started her online class. They stated that a lot of parents themselves are bullies and always try to justify their kid's bad behavior.

 

[Katrina]

I feel the same way. I have noticed that a lot of kids are rude, inconsiderate, and don't respect boundaries at all. I was discussing this with someone I know who works at the high school where my daughter used to go before she started her online class. They stated that a lot of parents themselves are bullies and always try to justify their kid's bad behavior.

Yep! I think the problem was that my generation gave too many participation trophy awards to the parents of today's kids, so those parents don't think their kids have done anything wrong.

 

[John]

Yep! I think the problem was that my generation gave too many participation trophy awards to the parents of today's kids, so those parents don't think their kids have done anything wrong.

I don’t think that’s the truth in every case.

I think parents should be liable for their child if they know or neglect to know that their child is a risk. If you know your child is violent, you leave your gun unlocked or accessible, and they commit a mass murder - you should 100% be liable. I think the liability for documented and untreated mental illnesses in kids should be expanded past just school shooters, though. Why are kids allowed to rape and murder in other ways and their parents can walk free (or even defend them on tv afterwards!)?

 

[Ravenfreak]

I think the parents are partially at fault. But then again, some children do have mental health issues that don't get addressed. Some children are too out of hand that some parents can't handle it. Heck in a lot of shooting cases that involve children, they're taught gun safety and seem to be fine on the surface. Thing is, when it comes to mental health a good number of people mask things and hold things in. This builds up and then we see mass shooters. This is why it's important to listen to your children, take the necessary steps in helping them and if you do have guns make sure that you keep them locked up when not in use, and hide the key in a spot only you and your spouse knows about.

 

[zappaDPJ]

Google informs me that over 80% of K-12 school shooters obtain their weapons from their own home. If the shooter is deemed to be a child then in my view the parents or guardians of that child are culpable.

 

[fantanoice]

Yep! I think the problem was that my generation gave too many participation trophy awards to the parents of today's kids, so those parents don't think their kids have done anything wrong.

Mate the parents of today ALSO dealt with school shootings. That's how long this has been a problem. Why are you regretting participation trophies when you could have fought for gun reform and saved thousands of lives?

If we're going off the baseline that children can't be accountable for their actions, then who is? The obvious answer is the adults in their lives. This is usually the parents but could be teachers or others if they're not keeping the child safe. Examples could be turning a blind eye to bullying in the classroom.

But some pretty obvious baselines regarding parents specifically:

• If a parent isn't providing a safe and loving environment for the child, that is negligence.
• If a parent has a gun in a household with a child, that is negligence.
• If a parent isn't fighting for extreme gun reform, that is negligence.

 

[Jason76]

I’m watching this 60 Minutes segment on YouTube about holding parents responsible for school shootings, and I honestly don’t understand the logic behind it.

How is it automatically the parents’ fault? Sure, in situations where the household is clearly negligent or the parents are doing harmful things, there might be some responsibility there. But many parents genuinely try their best to raise their kids with good values and instincts. Sometimes things still go wrong despite that. It feels overly simplistic to place all the blame on parents when the issue is obviously much more complex.

It could be their fault, but sometimes, not really in a sense. What I mean is that a lot of parents aren't good parents, but it's not enough to put them to blame. However, though, if it's something like the kids were physically beaten at home, then that would be different.

Obviously kids with parents who teach morals and the like have an advantage over lazy, but not cruel parents.

 

[Fidelia]

If a parent buys a gun and doesn't keep the gun safely out of reach of a child, and the child easily gets acess to the gun, the parents are culpable and should be prosecuted.