Hosting, How to pick.

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When choosing a hosting company you have to be sure your picking the right one, if you look at hosting as real estate but for the internet you want it in a prime location not in a shanty town, if they have really low prices and it looks too good to be true it usually will be to good to be true. Look for reveiws of the particular web hosting company and how long they have been in buisness, alot of theese new hosting companys wont last very long. Make sure you purchase th right package, as you cant run a forum with 200,000 posts on shared hosting, they will indefinatly suspend your account for draining server resources. If its just web pages your hosting with them, then all you will need is basic package of some sort to start you off but if you want to run medium to large websites you will have to have a Virtual private server or go dedicated to allow room for your site to expand and to have enough space and bandwidth to hold your site. Unlimited hosting packages are never truly unlimited, there is always a limit on how much space and bandwidth a hosting company will let you consume as they dont want to host 3 servers worth of sites on an unlimited shared package.

Here is a list of hosting companys i personaly reccomend:

http://www.liquidweb.com/
http://www.hawkhost.com
http://www.godaddy.com
http://www.hostgator.com
http://www.ipower.com

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It's fairly basic for an article. One thing you noted about the 200,000 posts and shared hosting. FP was on shared hosting whilst having about 300,000 posts or so, yet did not drain nor was shut down. Of course once it had met its threshold, FP moved to a VPS I believe, but even so, 50,000 posts could drain resources or 500,000 may not.
 
FP is still on shared hosting so you can have a forum with nearly 700,000 posts on shared hosting if the host you have is a decent host. We got kicked off Lunarpages a few years ago for using too much cpu when the forum was a fraction of the size it is now.

We also now have the topsite on the same hosting account as this forum so one shared hosting account with the right host can handle an active topsite and forum.
 
i didnt know that fp is on shared hosting, i assumed a site this size would be on atleast a vps 🙂
 
We host www.brawldomain.com with one of our shared hosting packages, and it runs fine.

It's those hosts the offer unlimited everything for $2/mo that you have to watch out for because they try to cram as many clients as they can onto one server.
 
Make sure to research the host, and if anything seems weird, go on live support and ask them about it. Don't let them give you a bs answer either. Make sure their testimonials are solid, and by actual people.
 
I always research and read up on customer reviews before paying any host.
 
DavidL said:
It's fairly basic for an article. One thing you noted about the 200,000 posts and shared hosting. FP was on shared hosting whilst having about 300,000 posts or so, yet did not drain nor was shut down. Of course once it had met its threshold, FP moved to a VPS I believe, but even so, 50,000 posts could drain resources or 500,000 may not.
Ya, you can still run a big community on shared hosting. It all depends how big the servers you're on are shared - I remember running my community with 70k and 3k members on shared hosting in the previous years.
 
Craven said:
I always research and read up on customer reviews before paying any host.

What if the host is new? Are they out of the running?
 
cpvr said:
DavidL said:
It's fairly basic for an article. One thing you noted about the 200,000 posts and shared hosting. FP was on shared hosting whilst having about 300,000 posts or so, yet did not drain nor was shut down. Of course once it had met its threshold, FP moved to a VPS I believe, but even so, 50,000 posts could drain resources or 500,000 may not.
Ya, you can still run a big community on shared hosting. It all depends how big the servers you're on are shared - I remember running my community with 70k and 3k members on shared hosting in the previous years.
It is not down to the size of the server. On a shared host, the host will not allow you to use all the server resources (or anywhere close) so whether your server is massive or not will not affect how long you will last on a shared host. It is down to what the hosts deem to be "too much" for their shared environment.
CMSVisuals said:
Craven said:
I always research and read up on customer reviews before paying any host.

What if the host is new? Are they out of the running?
I would always say they are out of the running. Hosts tend to start up and vanish soon after. Alot of the hosts advertised here that are owned by the people here tend to be new and tend to close down soon after starting. Not all but alot do. You are best to look at reviews, speak with people hosted on that host and check out how long the have been in business and decide. Never trust anything the owner or staff at the host says. They are not going to be completely honest with you as they want your money. They always want you to think they are the best so give you answers to make you think that.
 
CMSVisuals said:
Craven said:
I always research and read up on customer reviews before paying any host.

What if the host is new? Are they out of the running?

For me, yes.

I only even bother to look at hosts with at least 5 years in the business, and the two I do host with have been doing for 10+ years
 
spyka said:
CMSVisuals said:
Craven said:
I always research and read up on customer reviews before paying any host.

What if the host is new? Are they out of the running?

For me, yes.

I only even bother to look at hosts with at least 5 years in the business, and the two I do host with have been doing for 10+ years

Then how are new hosts supposed to achieve that "5 years" if no one is buying from them because they are new?
 
Simple: They don't. The web hosting market is completely over-saturated, there is no need for more hosts and the market will make sure of that.

I'd say that no host which stated after 2010 will be around in 10 or so years like Dreamhost because they offer nothing more and charge a higher price.

The only way a new host today will last is to come up with something new and unique that will change the way hosting works entirely and so far that's yet to happen. Most of the new hosts I see can't even get a unique website, let alone a unique business plan
 
spyka said:
Simple: They don't. The web hosting market is completely over-saturated, there is no need for more hosts and the market will make sure of that.

I'd say that no host which stated after 2010 will be around in 10 or so years like Dreamhost because they offer nothing more and charge a higher price.

The only way a new host today will last is to come up with something new and unique that will change the way hosting works entirely and so far that's yet to happen. Most of the new hosts I see can't even get a unique website, let alone a unique business plan

I have a unique website. No one uses it. 😀
 
CMSVisuals said:
spyka said:
Simple: They don't. The web hosting market is completely over-saturated, there is no need for more hosts and the market will make sure of that.

I'd say that no host which stated after 2010 will be around in 10 or so years like Dreamhost because they offer nothing more and charge a higher price.

The only way a new host today will last is to come up with something new and unique that will change the way hosting works entirely and so far that's yet to happen. Most of the new hosts I see can't even get a unique website, let alone a unique business plan

I have a unique website. No one uses it. 😀
How so? (without making it look like you're just advertising) I could easily make a unique site and no one will ever find it, or find it and not use it. If it isn't going to help people, or people can't find it, then who cares if it's unique or not?
 
I technically was just advertising at that point. She said "Most of the new hosts I see can't even get a unique website, let alone a unique business plan." so I simply based my answer off of that.
 
CMSVisuals said:
I technically was just advertising at that point. She said "Most of the new hosts I see can't even get a unique website, let alone a unique business plan." so I simply based my answer off of that.
I know, hence my reply. But do you really have a unique website, or is it what you would like to believe? I don't believe your website is unique, and really, since this is coming from a guest/visitor, and I am actually looking for a host, you haven't done well in terms of marketing your website (which I assume it's the host website).
 
I find my website unique as unique means "Existing as the only one or as the sole example; single; solitary in type or characteristics: a unique copy of an ancient manuscript.". Considering I hold the only one version and design of that site.
 
CMSVisuals said:
I find my website unique as unique means "Existing as the only one or as the sole example; single; solitary in type or characteristics: a unique copy of an ancient manuscript.". Considering I hold the only one version and design of that site.
Having different text/name can be deemed unique even if every host had the same overall design, as by your brief definition, my site is the only site with that name, thus uniqueness, which isn't fully true. You can have prices, login, banner, links etc. all on the front page, but is it really unique if you remove the design and such? Not really, so new hosts will need to find a way to be noticed and liked just on a visit.

Also, there is a difference between uniqueness and poor design, poor structure and poor planning. You can make an ugly looking website, which is by definition unique, but not do well. If you want to be successfully unique, you need to be positively unique, not negatively unique. So, if you are not doing well, are you unique, or the latter? Every host should consider that, and customers in search for a host.
 
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