Taz said:
master412160 said:
Taz said:
Genesis Chapter 1-3. Its all there.
Eummm... Those are just words written down in a time they didn't know anything compared to today's vast amount of knowledge. A time they didn't question anything told to them. A time they thought the earth was not round. A time they didn't know there is alot more out there then just earth and the planets around it. etc... XD
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Actually, God gave the revelation for those words to be put down. God knows everything and theres no way you can win an argument with God.
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Actually, I'm 100% positive that God created the heavens and the earth.
Why? Because everyone else believes it? I guess you just "take it on faith," but you can take anything on faith. I can take the idea that the earth is flat on "faith," and most arguments which support that method of thinking are just plees to emotion. Perhaps you might say that the bible explains a lot of things. That's yo be expected, because people back then weren't completely stupid. You could also explain that a particular "miracle" explains that god exists, like how the british expeditionary forces managed to escape the Germans during the initial invasion of France, or how the planes shot down in the Battle of Britain were taken out by angels, and so on, but these events were just pure luck. Just as many distasters happen as miracles, and most of the time miracles happened at the foot of future saints' tombs, those were just Nuns which were pressured into accepting a placebo-style cure. Ditto televangelists slapping people on the head.
Maybe there is a god, but there's no evidence, and he's a diest-style god who isn't very sociable. Otherwise, religion is an attempt by a bunch of well-developed mammals to reassure themselves that they will never die. Why else do all major religions have some kind of happy explanation of what happens when you die, from the pharos, to the buddhists, to the christians. Not that I know for certain that death is the same as being set equal to null, and then annihilated by the Java garbage collector.
Here're the facts: we simply do not know. We don't know. We. Do. Not. Know. We don't even have any proof about the Big Bang and such. We know that evolution happens, but we don't know how the first bit of life occurred. Nobody can explain consciousness, and I don't know if my dog is truly self-aware. These questions can probably be answered, but it's damn hard to examine anything that happened before we were around to collect data, and one could argue that it's impossible, and documents like the bible or the Koran aren't evidence, they're just theories. Sure, Genesis and the Big Bang both have similar amounts of evidence, but that's why I don't have an opinion on how exactly the universe came about. I just recognize that we probably don't know, which is why the bible, and the big bang, are probably BS (although, TBH, the big bang is more probably according to Occam's razor).
Are you sure about that? Evolutionary biologists and most scientists have a pretty good idea of when and how.
They have some good theories, which are basically proven. Evolution definitely happend. However, no one can explain consciousness, or the first living organism, or how it came to pass that all of the basic rules evolution relies upon came into being.
It's natural for humans to explain things they do not understand in terms of human personallities. Just look at Greek, Roman, Native American, and Asian ideas which explained the most simple concepts on a bunch of gods, or god-like creatures, which each determined some kind of natural force. People see things in terms of people, which is why a lot of people use words like "know" when referring to computers. That leads me to believe that the "creator" probably isn't human-like, particularly seeing as humans are a very late development in the universe, according to carbon dating (which the christians here are about to deny vigorously without any real proof). That said, though, there's more to life than just evolution.
Life's a simulation, plain and simple.
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