Hurtful Words

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

Do you believe that words should be able to have a negative effect on a human? I'm not talking about the types of words that need to be censored, i'm talking more about offensive remarks.

My view is simple, why does it matter? I grew up in an environment where I was constantly told i'm nothing, I wasn't given large amounts of praise as a child and I rarely got my way. That's probably why i'm so hard headed and fight to the death over small things, however it also means that nothing offends me. You can sit here all day, online or in real life and call me an idiot, I don't care. If you make a move against me, i'll try to counter it as best as I can, I won't say "ow, that hurt 🙁" or anything of the sort.

So I ask of you, should words be able to carry a negative effect towards people, or should they not matter at all, as they are only words?

 

[Nuke]

Yeah...that whole "strong words" thing causing people to go to tears and cause national crisises is kinda dumb.

 

[wednesday]

Everything you say and do in life has an effect on those around you.
Its a spiral....oh and thanks for making a lovely lil debate on my behalf. Im honoured.

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

Everything you say and do in life has an effect on those around you.
Its a spiral....oh and thanks for making a lovely lil debate on my behalf. Im honoured.

This isn't just about you, it's something i've picked up on a lot in this debate forum as of late. Besides that was my personal view on the matter, feel free to counter it as much as you like to the best you can, that's what a debate is.

Yes, I can see that words can have an effect, but the question is should they?

 

[wednesday]

Ok..hurtful words. Some people are more upset by them than others. It depends on the individual. me for example, will take offense when someone directly targets me in a debate. Instead of it being neutral, they will say something that really isnt part of the argument...and purely a dig.

Others like yourself, have no ethics or morals in that department..and are quite happy to upset and belittle others around them.
As i said....its not a case of "should they"..its all about individualism and humanity.
You have your views....i have mine. If you personally point me out in a debate with something offensive..yes i will be hurt. Does it make me less of a person than you? And should i be critised for it?
🙂

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

Does it make me less of a person than you? And should i be critised for it?
🙂

Nah it doesn't, however it does make things confusing. Seeing as I have limited morals and ethics (I do have some) and being I was raised as I was, my view on the world is much different. I can't understand emotions well, I don't get why people get upset when others die either. To me I see the world in the basic form, the cycle. When someone dies and I throw in my "well we all will at some point anyway..." comment people get mad at me, but I can't understand why. Humans are blinded by emotions and some people are more blinded than others. This doesn't make them any less, or any more human, however dealing with these people can be difficult depending on how closely you are related emotionally. I can tell you have a full set of emotions, I have few, which is why we both look at each other and say "did they just say that? 😵".

In my view, if everyone figured out that words don't mean anything (actions do) dealing with others on a social level would be easier, people would get upset less, and there would be less fighting / wars / hate because of it.

 

[Gimgak]

It depends on the person, more specifically someone's self esteem. The more in one's life a person has been insulted, the more hardened emotionally they will be. All to do with the amount of shit one has taken. It's like people coming back from the war, who have been around a lot of killing and death, they just loose any feeling towards death, and that can be dangerous.

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

It depends on the person, more specifically someone's self esteem. The more in one's life a person has been insulted, the more hardened emotionally they will be. All to do with the amount of **** one has taken. It's like people coming back from the war, who have been around a lot of killing and death, they just loose any feeling towards death, and that can be dangerous.

It can be dangerous when you no longer care. I try my best to keep people happy and I do a decent job most of the time, but every now and then something slips. I know one of my girlfriend's best friends has gone through life easy as it gets, everything she wanted she has. Then her parents divorced, and now guys are attacking her (she's decently pretty). She's trying to deal with it all and since she's so "soft" emotionally, it's not going well. I flat out told her that she needs a slap in the face and needs to get control and FIX her life before it gets worse, she called me rude. I think she knows it though, she needs to harden up some and get control or things will only go down hill.

 

[wednesday]

"decently pretty"? lol. Oh the shallowness of it...Ok im going to exit stage left.
Thanks for the experience.

 

[Callum93]

When someone dies and I throw in my "well we all will at some point anyway..." comment people get mad at me, but I can't understand why.

I totally agree with your point of view to an extent... but it's an idiotic and insensitive thing to say to someone.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Nope.

I don't think any speech should be limited. I don't care if it's hateful, too bad. It's not the governments job to enforce morality.

 

[Fullmoon]

Ive gone through my life being upset at every hatefull word said about me.

People that i thought loved me called me horrible things. im useless, worthless, will never achieve what i want to in life

Now i think... why? i dont actually care what people think of me, if people dont like me thats theyre problem not mine!

And come 5th Sept ill have achieved everything i dreamed of!

Playing in a band at Donington!!

 

[Stephie]

Sometimes things you say can hurt someone more than they show on the outside . I can remember things that were said even years later. It's best to try to think before you speak.

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

Sometimes things you say can hurt someone more than they show on the outside . I can remember things that were said even years later. It's best to try to think before you speak.

You misread, the topic is about discussion of whether or not it should have an affect, not if it does or not 😉

 

[MamaHaven]

Yes, I do think that certain words should have an effect on someone's feelings. If we all walked around with tough guy attitudes, not bothered to have empathy for other people, our species would die out pretty damn fast.
Now, should words hurt someone when they are involved in a debate? Heck no, if you cant take the heat, get outta the kitchen.

 

[Oaerkae]

I have mixed feelings on this, I personally am not affected by words, I'm like my dad, I just say something comical or witty and crush the offender. :biggrin:

I think it's ok to have emotions, and that it's ok to be hurt; but, I used to be easily hurt by opinions, but I eventually came to the point that it didn't matter, and I am happier now that I don't care about what people say.

I think how people deal with words is up to them, if words hurt someone, it's really their choice, nothing more.
Although I do not think that ignoring pain or words should make us hard-you-know-whats, empathy is a good thing in my opinion.

 

[Shahrier]

Words don't hurt me.


if someone goes like "**** you, b****!!!" I'd just go like, "Othankyou 🙂"

 

[Howard_Crane]

I think... like wednesday said, everything effects.

But it is the duty of the receiver of abuse or coercion to then form a RESPONSE to this. It can either be an attitudinal, mental, or physical response. As apposed to a reaction, which is just going by pre-programmed social norms. Like not saying "ow, that hurt 🙁" when the occasion is called for, or taking it entirely onboard.

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

When someone dies and I throw in my "well we all will at some point anyway..." comment people get mad at me, but I can't understand why.

I totally agree with your point of view to an extent... but it's an idiotic and insensitive thing to say to someone.

But why is it? Shouldn't the truth be allowed to be said without an after effect on a person? Do we all want to live a lie life where we think things are true because people say them to keep us "feeling good"? For example, I know i'm a geek and in today's social environment it's not at the top of the food chain. If another calls me a "geek" in a negative manner should that effect my feelings, even if it's true? It's their opinion after all, and everyone can think how they want (until the chips are installed anyway).

Personally I don't think words should have a negative or postive effect. If my girlfriend tells me she loves me, I don't count that as anything really. It's when she proves it (not sexually by the way, I mean like helping me and spending time together) that I realize what she means. In the same way if my least favorite person says i'm a bitch, it really shouldn't matter much.

 

[ColtCabana]

Yes, Ghost. The truth shouldn't affect people. People should handle being told the truth. But they don't handle it well. People do get offended in situations like that because it reminds them of things that they don't necessarily want to be reminded of.