I found a way to beat the schools's copying policy...

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

Heres the story, ive got an english paper due when break is over, and im actually doing it. But, I want to know if I released the finished paper on Blue Humor, without any copywrites, could my friend then copy it, use it as his, and NOT get in trouble as I gave him rights todo so?

For example;
If you copied off me, and a teacher caught us, we'd both get in trouble, right? Why though, if I give you the rights to my answers?

This proves just how corrupted the school system is. They aim to teach us real world lessons, yet they fail. Sure, copywrite is a big issue, but things released free are to be used free, like renders and graphics. Like GIMP, and Opera (Or FireFox). Like phpBB and MyBB for goodness sake.

Would it hold up if used at my school. Thats what I need to know. Before you say it, I would allow the teacher to find out on purpose, as in use the same teacher. This would purely test the schools policy to the extreme, and get rid of any corruption the school might have. Is it worth a try?

 

[Subz]

I wouldn't bother trying

these exams is to test what "you" know

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

Thats what im thinking. We could always both do our own paper, then try it so then we'd have a real paper to turn in if it went badly. That way all grades would be safe, yet if it works it would show how limited any copywrite can be. It would be a HUGE step forward if you ask me. No one has yet to fully test the system. Someone needs to step up and say "Screw you, youve been denying our rights, stop now." and im more than willing to be that person.

 

[spyka]

Sorry but you're confused.

Schools not allowing you to copy others work is nothing really to do with copyright, it's to do with plagiarism.

If you copy someones work, even if they give you the rights to use the work, it is still THEIR work. Even if it's public domain, it is THEIR work.

Schools don't want THEIR work, they want YOUR work.

Taking someones work, regardless of copyright, and presenting it as your own is plagiarism. Full stop. Even if the original owner allows you do that, it is plagiarism.

definition of plagiarism:

a piece of writing that has been copied from someone else and is presented as being your own work

It DOESNT say:

a piece of writing that has been copied from someone else without permission and is presented as being your own work

As a result, even if the copyright of the work allows you to copy it, you are still plagiarizing and that is against the "rules" of the school/homework/exams (whatever it may be)

If you say 'this is not my work but I copied it from Mr Smith' then you aren't plagiarizing - however the school will ignore that bit of work because they aren't marking others work, they're marking yours. As a result you will get 0 marks because you didn't provide any work to mark.

 

[ℓєσ gнσѕт]

Plagiarizing was only put into effect to help comply with copyrite laws. Where did you get that definition? Unless its in my schools policly defining exactly what 'Plagiarizing" is, I can still go through with it at my school. Plagiarizing wouldnt hold up very well if they cant PROVE you got it from that source. I mean, if I tell two people to write down the first word that comes to mind when I say "red" and they both write "apple" is that plagerism of the person who finished writing first? Makes no sense at all, and I really doubt it would hold up if I decided to push the issue into public court. See, ill still be in school when im 18 and legally old enough to, so I could do this. I see it as a corrupt sustem that needs fixing badly, kinda like people copyriting Vocab Answers, its pointless and stupid. Even if I dont win or anything, id atleast like to bring the corrput part into public attention -n-

 

[spyka]

Where did you get that definition?

http://wordnet.princeton.edu/

Unless its in my schools policly defining exactly what 'Plagiarizing" is, I can still go through with it at my school

It won't be defined at your school, it'll be defined by the exam board.

Plagiarizing wouldnt hold up very well if they cant PROVE you got it from that source.

Well if your english paper is, word for word, the same as one online it's highly unlikely to have not come from there, is it?

I mean, if I tell two people to write down the first word that comes to mind when I say "red" and they both write "apple" is that plagerism of the person who finished writing first?

No, it's not, as they didn't copy from each other. However that is not the sort of thing you're talking about. You're talking about long papers - not a few words - there is no way two people would write the same paper word for word without either copying.

Also, you're missing the KEY point of plagiarism: presenting it as being your own work . There is nothing wrong with copying something, but claiming it as yours IS wrong.

Makes no sense at all, and I really doubt it would hold up if I decided to push the issue into public court.

I don't know that much about the law concerning plagiarism but if the school showed your english paper and a web page from the internet posted a month ago that had the exact same/very similar content then it would be probably up to YOU to disprove it.

I see it as a corrupt sustem that needs fixing badly, kinda like people copyriting Vocab Answers, its pointless and stupid. Even if I dont win or anything, id atleast like to bring the corrput part into public attention

What is corrupt? That schools expect you to do your work by yourself? :? How else can they mark you fairly if you copy someone elses work?

School is about learning and throughout the learning process you are given a test/paper/coursework to test how much YOU have learnt.

If people are going to copy content then what is the point? Anyone can google for a paper, paste it into Word and get an A for it.

You seem to be mixing up copyright LAW and school POLICY. Teachers dont punish you for copying answers because it's illegal but because it's against the rules of the test