How often do you use these? They can be momentarily useful when dealing with a troublemaker who just keeps coming back, but it's not that hard to bypass and, if you're really unlucky, it can even hit someone using the same ISP (particularly on mobile where IPs may be shared among a large number of people).
IP Bans
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Couple times. Used the forum and then also added to the ban list on the server. But doesn't always stop them. They still can use VPN to chnage IPs and emails. But if they keep on doing it they will get so fedup that they give up
If it's bad enough I'll report it to the proper authorities, most of these amateurs can be tracked and reported to their own ISP's for abusing their service. Although, the majority of the time a simple username/IP ban sufficed. I try to approach these situations proactively by having proper measures in place to make the spammer's job much more difficult before I lift a finger.
That can take time and power that most of us don't have. And a pain to deal with
Banning the IP was my main defense against spammers. There was a time when our office website's forum was deluged with spammers like 4 to 5 new accounts in a day. When I learned about banning the IP that somehow stymied them although some spammers seemed to have an unlimited IP to use. It's like a combat where the first one who blinks loses. I persevered in banning the spammers until they were gone within the month.
The ISPs don't really care if random people evade bans on your site. Justified or not.
And neither are they the police.
IP bans are an outdated procedure in my opinion. Many websites such as Reddit use fingerprinting to use properties such as browser and device information to detect the same user. Plain IP bans can very easily banish legitimate users. With Opera offering a free VPN, you could have hundreds of users on the same IP.
IPS has those options to now, They have added allot to the point that owners doesn't have to deal with them.
I've worked for an ISP as a lead in the abuse department, but I'm sure you're speaking from an experienced standpoint. It's not like you'd simply disagree with me for argument's sake. I've also supported ISP's with information for their reports to end particular clients services.
There are also authorities in place for elevating certain reports to the next level, in which, absolutely, there have been prosecutions.
All just real-world information that you've already accumulated yourself, I'm sure.
Quit the sarcasm. You know full well how ridiculous what you're saying is.
From an evidence standpoint (he said, she said is not evidence) even to how petty it is, just like how the police wouldn't setup a sting to catch someone littering.
And even if they cared, which they don't, it would be a miracle to get in contact with someone who can even speak English. Any sort of customer support is an absolute mess at ISPs, let alone complaining that someone "evaded a ban".
And back in the day, site admins were so daring and lawless that they would hack into competing sites and redirect them to themselves, and for a number of reasons, largely due to the international nature of it and it being the early internet and all, the police didn't really particularly care, as-long as you're not MySpace.
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Even if you violate copyright, something some of them take a hundred times more seriously, their hands are often tied as suspending paying customers for petty actions is bad business. Also, poking around in customer matters for no reason is an invasion of privacy.
And if it's a real spambot, not an imaginary crime like ban evasion, then they often operate out of places like Russia which care even less and are usually actual computer viruses.
Service suspended for possible "hacking attempts": https://www.reddit.com/r/LazyMan/comments/a3fbh3/isp_keeps_shutting_my_internet_down_due_to/
Service suspended for Torrenting: https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/4by404/so_my_isp_turned_my_internet_off_for_torrenting/
Service suspended for using UPNP: https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/442gi9/isp_suspended_internet_because_of_upnp/
Service suspended for downloading copyrighted material: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167956573&page=1
Service suspension for possible botting: https://forums.techguy.org/threads/isp-says-i-have-a-bot-sending-out-spam.1106570/
Service suspension for "illegal activity": https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/45nj8w/internet_got_shut_off_and_i_have_to_talk_to_dmca/
Service suspended for using a VPN: https://www.reddit.com/r/vpnreviews/comments/6dteap/isp_is_not_happy_with_me_using_a_vpn/
Account suspensions due to spam: https://help.campaignmonitor.com/account-suspension-due-to-spam-complaints
How Six Strikes works: https://mashable.com/2013/02/27/isps-six-strikes/#BHTd8RhT.Zqu
Blog on when to report someone to their ISP: http://www.managingcommunities.com/2008/01/29/when-to-report-someone-to-their-isp/
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