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I hope no one minds a stranger giving a remark here. I read something today that seems pertinent to this case.
Some people have pointed out that the government has been on the move against DMCA offenders, and Blogetery also seemed to be under some gag order when they were shut down: http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-authorities ... gs-100716/
I'm still skeptical that DMCA problems would cause such abrupt, drastic action - which could lead to loss and damages claims from those who weren't involved in any misdeeds. It seems more likely that the servers must have been involved in some sort of criminal activity that had to be caught by surprise and stopped on the spot - like pornography, massive spamming, virus distribution, gambling, or snuff films. In the US, though, there is one particular category of criminal activity that is likely to draw swift action and utter disregard for anyone's property or civil rights: terrorism.
By chance, I was reading today about the Connecticut Four. A couple of years ago the FBI sent letters to libraries, demanding patron records without any sort of court order. While libraries have been a bastion of defending privacy and free speech in the US, the Connecticut Four were the first to fight back: http://www.aclu.org/national-security/l ... atriot-act
The salient issue is that the librarians were gagged during the entire case. This meant they could not bring up what the FBI was doing or offer an opinion while the US Congress was discussing renewal of the Patriot Act. The FBI told Congress no such letters were being set, and the Patriot Act was renewed.
Librarians were the first to recognize that this was the slippery slope to dismantling some of the most important civil rights in the US. I'm wondering whether these sudden server shutdowns are an extension of this...some hint of terrorism permitting the utter disregard of anyone else's civil rights. Even if the forums were "free" and only existed at the discretion of ipbfree, there was certainly no expectation of the forums suddenly vanishing. It seems to me there are abundant legal arguments about implied contracts, creative work product, and free speech that would come to bear...unless the US government had a catch-all rights-abrogation pretext like terrorism.
On the bright side, perhaps by hitting so many people's creative endeavors and writings at once, people will finally realize that the destruction of civil rights inherent in the Patriot Act and other recent legislation affects *all of us*. People need to start fighting back before every last shred of our rights is taken away.
Some people have pointed out that the government has been on the move against DMCA offenders, and Blogetery also seemed to be under some gag order when they were shut down: http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-authorities ... gs-100716/
I'm still skeptical that DMCA problems would cause such abrupt, drastic action - which could lead to loss and damages claims from those who weren't involved in any misdeeds. It seems more likely that the servers must have been involved in some sort of criminal activity that had to be caught by surprise and stopped on the spot - like pornography, massive spamming, virus distribution, gambling, or snuff films. In the US, though, there is one particular category of criminal activity that is likely to draw swift action and utter disregard for anyone's property or civil rights: terrorism.
By chance, I was reading today about the Connecticut Four. A couple of years ago the FBI sent letters to libraries, demanding patron records without any sort of court order. While libraries have been a bastion of defending privacy and free speech in the US, the Connecticut Four were the first to fight back: http://www.aclu.org/national-security/l ... atriot-act
The salient issue is that the librarians were gagged during the entire case. This meant they could not bring up what the FBI was doing or offer an opinion while the US Congress was discussing renewal of the Patriot Act. The FBI told Congress no such letters were being set, and the Patriot Act was renewed.
Librarians were the first to recognize that this was the slippery slope to dismantling some of the most important civil rights in the US. I'm wondering whether these sudden server shutdowns are an extension of this...some hint of terrorism permitting the utter disregard of anyone else's civil rights. Even if the forums were "free" and only existed at the discretion of ipbfree, there was certainly no expectation of the forums suddenly vanishing. It seems to me there are abundant legal arguments about implied contracts, creative work product, and free speech that would come to bear...unless the US government had a catch-all rights-abrogation pretext like terrorism.
On the bright side, perhaps by hitting so many people's creative endeavors and writings at once, people will finally realize that the destruction of civil rights inherent in the Patriot Act and other recent legislation affects *all of us*. People need to start fighting back before every last shred of our rights is taken away.
The following was emailed to me when contacting a member of the ipbfree staff.
I apologize, but I am legally bound to keep secret why everything is missing. Just know that there is a reason and we at iPBFree no longer have control of the situation. I'm sorry for the damage this has caused.
According to the twitter or another staff member they are not updating and there is no intent on them coming back.
Here are the twitters:
http://twitter.com/tomlough
http://twitter.com/catfriedrice
Sorry I lost a lot as well!
*UPDATE* After more research I have found that they had too many DMCA Violations. Mainly because of people hosting forums with illegal content. They have been shut down because they have done nothing to stop these forums or control/regulate them. After many warnings about the DMCA violations they still did nothing.
This came from an anonymous source.
This was on Yahoo answers but the question is deleted.
weet from one of the owners of IPBFree.com - http://twitter.com/tomlough/status/18527662762
Quote
iPBFree is gone forever and it's not possible to retrieve anything. We're exceptionally sorry, it wasn't planned.
I apologize, but I am legally bound to keep secret why everything is missing. Just know that there is a reason and we at iPBFree no longer have control of the situation. I'm sorry for the damage this has caused.
According to the twitter or another staff member they are not updating and there is no intent on them coming back.
Here are the twitters:
http://twitter.com/tomlough
http://twitter.com/catfriedrice
Sorry I lost a lot as well!
*UPDATE* After more research I have found that they had too many DMCA Violations. Mainly because of people hosting forums with illegal content. They have been shut down because they have done nothing to stop these forums or control/regulate them. After many warnings about the DMCA violations they still did nothing.
This came from an anonymous source.
This was on Yahoo answers but the question is deleted.
weet from one of the owners of IPBFree.com - http://twitter.com/tomlough/status/18527662762
Quote
iPBFree is gone forever and it's not possible to retrieve anything. We're exceptionally sorry, it wasn't planned.
The DMCA explanation is a "viral" one. Several people proposed that, but the IPBFree Twitters said none of the "speculations" they were seeing online were correct.
The abrupt nature of the shutdown makes a criminal situation more likely. See my earlier post to see a situation where the FBI could shut them down without a court order, and everyone would be under a gag order.
Blogetery was also suddenly shut down, and they are also under a gag order.
If these were Patriot Act maneuvers, the level of collateral damage (blogs and forums of innocent bystanders shut down) is unacceptable.
The abrupt nature of the shutdown makes a criminal situation more likely. See my earlier post to see a situation where the FBI could shut them down without a court order, and everyone would be under a gag order.
Blogetery was also suddenly shut down, and they are also under a gag order.
If these were Patriot Act maneuvers, the level of collateral damage (blogs and forums of innocent bystanders shut down) is unacceptable.
D
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I think it's stupid how so many people are getting hit by someone else problems. I have no idea what happened but it's certainly unfair how so many people are suffering from something that the people in charge are not even saying what happened.
Number one thing to remember though is never use a free host, things like this can happen unexpectedly.
Number one thing to remember though is never use a free host, things like this can happen unexpectedly.
seshet said:
I got this info from IPS the thread is here - http://community.invisionpower.com/topi ... -shutdown/
That is where my first post in thread came from.
That forum was one of the first places I went, too. If you read through the posts, it's mainly speculation - some bring up the DMCA theory, and some reject it. One post mentions a (now deleted) tweet where IPBFree explicitly denied it was a DMCA problem: http://community.invisionpower.com/topi ... try1989080
The forum moderators point out that their forum has no connection to IPBFree: http://community.invisionpower.com/topi ... try1987188
I think this post may have been particularly misleading:
http://community.invisionpower.com/topi ... try1987183
I saw that Yahoo Answers page and the remark about the DMCA is one of the random answers someone gave - not from the IPBFree source (who also answered - provoking the uproar about how unprofessional it was to announce the shutdown on Yahoo Answers). The official source only said he could not give the reason.
That forum is also where I got the Blogetery reference. Catching a company by surprise and seizing their servers regardless of how innocent bystanders may be affected and placing them under a gag order is highly unusual procedure. After finding this happened to (at least?) two large scale content hosts, it's hard to believe this is a DMCA matter. If it's not a Patriot Act situation, at the very least it has to be a hardcore criminal matter.
The forum moderators point out that their forum has no connection to IPBFree: http://community.invisionpower.com/topi ... try1987188
I think this post may have been particularly misleading:
http://community.invisionpower.com/topi ... try1987183
I saw that Yahoo Answers page and the remark about the DMCA is one of the random answers someone gave - not from the IPBFree source (who also answered - provoking the uproar about how unprofessional it was to announce the shutdown on Yahoo Answers). The official source only said he could not give the reason.
That forum is also where I got the Blogetery reference. Catching a company by surprise and seizing their servers regardless of how innocent bystanders may be affected and placing them under a gag order is highly unusual procedure. After finding this happened to (at least?) two large scale content hosts, it's hard to believe this is a DMCA matter. If it's not a Patriot Act situation, at the very least it has to be a hardcore criminal matter.
This isnt really the 1st time Ive seen this happen. A few years back there was a host called jconserv that shut down suddenly and everything was lost.. Here is an old yahoo answers page talking about it: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071108222019AALwXjh
I can think of a few other forum hosts off the top of my head that did the same thing but I can't remember the names of them right now.
Now it appears that a free wordpress host has been taken down by its hosting provider on orders from the U.S. authorities on grounds of "a history of abuse". It hosted over 73,000 blogs. That one was called http://blogetery.com/
Read this thread about that shutdown blog host: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=964013
I bet the same exact situation applies to IPBFree.
I can think of a few other forum hosts off the top of my head that did the same thing but I can't remember the names of them right now.
Now it appears that a free wordpress host has been taken down by its hosting provider on orders from the U.S. authorities on grounds of "a history of abuse". It hosted over 73,000 blogs. That one was called http://blogetery.com/
Read this thread about that shutdown blog host: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=964013
I bet the same exact situation applies to IPBFree.
Regarding Blogetery, I think the blogs taken down with a "history of abuse" notice are part of the regular procedure to follow up on DMCA notices. There has been some sort of DMCA initiative going on recently that shut down people distributing free movies, etc.
However the mass shutdown of everyone's forums and blogs may have nothing to do with that at all. I think these people did not receive notices, and when they make inquiries they get the "gag order" non-response instead of an explanation like "history of abuse".
However the mass shutdown of everyone's forums and blogs may have nothing to do with that at all. I think these people did not receive notices, and when they make inquiries they get the "gag order" non-response instead of an explanation like "history of abuse".
Crash-Cheetah
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I've had to restart a New Forum. I just can't believe that the staff didn't even send out an email to everyone letting them know that they were closed. Me and a few others thought that it was the update, but it wasn't.
I'd like to point out that the host is at no legal jurisdiction to notify people of shut down if it is a DMCA infliction. You signed an agreement to say that the contents of your account is legally your responsibility and so it is up to you to make backups and if you can't, you can't blame them.
The Hat Tipper said:
They just had an impression that they're using a paid software for free 😛.
IPB 1.3 was free. I still have a copy in my computer, just that I don't use it.
The point is, that IPB 1.3 with the modifications made by IPBFree was a great forum script and everyone loved it (well, everyone who didn't knew how to use a shared host).
Although I do not like that host, I do not wish what happened to IPBfree hosted forums on any other poor defenseless forums. FF will sell a backup to its customers so if anyone is using FF and is reading this thread, my advice to you is to buy the backup and get out before its too late! (if you are serious about your forum that is)The Hat Tipper said:
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