Is obama a socialist?

gqgk said:
remember the last socialist to run for president in america? prolly not because you werent born yet. but guess what he said. "america will never knowingly vote a socialist into office." want to know what else he said? "That's fine because the democratic party has supported all of our policies without the title." So congrats. you were called socialists by someone who is indeed socialists.

income redistribution is the first policy of socialism and so far everything obama does is nothing but that. the rich paying for the poor. on top of that the healthcare reform is a joke. nobody will ever get treated for anything. why do you think people from canada come to america for healthcare?
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People from America go to Canada for healtcare, also.

If you would stop listening to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, you'd realize the system the democrats are trying to start is nothing like Canadas healthcare. It's going to be a PUBLIC option, key word option, not required universal care.

Obama is not redistributing income, he is raising taxes on the rich back to what they were during the Clinton years, and our economy was so bad under him right!
Also, the tax rates for the highest tax bracket ( Rich people ) under Reagan was 50% (more than 10 percentage points higher than Obama's proposed 39.6%), under Nixon was 70%, and under Eisenhower was 90%, so, it's just not some left wing socialist scheme here.
 
Irviding implies that republicans should not have rights to speech by insulting the talk show hosts! [/mudslinging]

Obama is canceling the Bush tax cuts, raising taxes.
The bill specifically also raises it to allow 200 billion more USD for healthcare.

And Obama, just like normal people, has the mental capability to LIE. And wasn't that whole thing where Obama "ENTERED THE DEN OF THE ENEMY, CONSERVATIVE RADIO," a guy who supported him in the election, had preprepared questions, acted terribly, and was some sham of a small-time radio talk show host, most of which are actually the liberals so they can say they're nonbias?

And here's a reminder...I'M A DEMOCRAT. 😛
 
I will insult the talk show hosts until the day I die. All they do is spread misinformation. Hannity goes on and on about how there's been an Islamifcation of the white house, etc.
 
Not really...I watch the radio talk shows because they're more bearable than Nancy Pelosi saying republicans are nazis.
 
Irviding said:
gqgk said:
remember the last socialist to run for president in america? prolly not because you werent born yet. but guess what he said. "america will never knowingly vote a socialist into office." want to know what else he said? "That's fine because the democratic party has supported all of our policies without the title." So congrats. you were called socialists by someone who is indeed socialists.

income redistribution is the first policy of socialism and so far everything obama does is nothing but that. the rich paying for the poor. on top of that the healthcare reform is a joke. nobody will ever get treated for anything. why do you think people from canada come to america for healthcare?
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People from America go to Canada for healtcare, also.

If you would stop listening to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, you'd realize the system the democrats are trying to start is nothing like Canadas healthcare. It's going to be a PUBLIC option, key word option, not required universal care.

Obama is not redistributing income, he is raising taxes on the rich back to what they were during the Clinton years, and our economy was so bad under him right!
Also, the tax rates for the highest tax bracket ( Rich people ) under Reagan was 50% (more than 10 percentage points higher than Obama's proposed 39.6%), under Nixon was 70%, and under Eisenhower was 90%, so, it's just not some left wing socialist scheme here.
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that doesnt work. welcome to the real world. healthcare cant work like that. and nobody goes to canada. the treatment is crap. if you have cancer, you have to wait 6 months to get treated. 6 months. you may not make it til then. and you really dont have a clue whats going on. if you stopped to look you would realize this. first: when you treat everyone (which is what they want to do regardless of what you want to think) nobody gets treated. second: having the rich pay for some poor people to get treated is income redistribution. third: your showing tax rates that mean nothing. you have to look at cost of living along with the average income of the top income tax bracket. you throw out statistics that show nothing because you dont look at how they relate to the time. you really need to get some higher education in statistics and politics and economy before you can start throwing things out there that you dont know what they really mean
 
gqgk, don't tell me I don't know anything about politics. I'm not the one sitting here saying that Obama has muslim terrorist friends and that he's a socialist.

I know people from Canada on many forums, and they all love their healthcare. Most say the only problem is with dentists, so when they want to see a dentist, they go to a private one.

I don't know how it doesn't work when your whole theory about Obama being a socialist terrorist muslim just went down the toilet.
 
Well, in UK they have a 45k USD (or maybe it's Euro) cap on ALL procedures to save lives of THOSE DEEMED WORTH SAVING.
 
Irviding said:
gqgk, don't tell me I don't know anything about politics. I'm not the one sitting here saying that Obama has muslim terrorist friends and that he's a socialist.

I know people from Canada on many forums, and they all love their healthcare. Most say the only problem is with dentists, so when they want to see a dentist, they go to a private one.

I don't know how it doesn't work when your whole theory about Obama being a socialist terrorist muslim just went down the toilet.
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he does. one of his buddies in chicago is a known extremist muslim. but i forgot you just make your info up instead of doing research on it. you are the only person that really likes canadian healthcare. notice most people on forums arent even old enough to know how politics work. and the rest just make stuff up. here's an example from the REAL world from a business partner from a REAL job in the REAL world from Toronto told me about. he was in the hospital for 8 hours until he saw a doctor even though he was the highest triage there. do you know what that means or do you need a definition. it means his case was deemed as the highest level severity. in most american hospitals if your triage 3 (the highest for most hospitals) you will be seen in 10 minutes MAX. it took 8 hours. do you want me to continue with stories? go out into the REAL world and meet REAL people who actually live there. so far nothing you've said has any evidence whatsoever.
 
Okay, where's your evidence that Obama is friends with Muslim terrorists? Show me the link and I want real proof. Anything off the following websites is not valid:
http://www.foxnews.com
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com
http://www.hannity.com
http://www.glennbeck.com
http://www.worldnetdaily.com

Read through this topic: http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=414989

Look at all the people from Canada commenting on their healthcare and tell me it's so awful.

And, may I say again, that the healthcare the Democrats originally wanted to push through was nothing like Canadas.
 
Irviding said:
Okay, where's your evidence that Obama is friends with Muslim terrorists? Show me the link and I want real proof. Anything off the following websites is not valid:
http://www.foxnews.com
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com
http://www.hannity.com
http://www.glennbeck.com
http://www.worldnetdaily.com

Read through this topic: http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=414989

Look at all the people from Canada commenting on their healthcare and tell me it's so awful.

And, may I say again, that the healthcare the Democrats originally wanted to push through was nothing like Canadas.
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yes, in fact its worse! private insurance companies wont keep up with the government insurance. so it wont really be public choice for long. and once again you give terrible evidence. any forum is not going to be good evidence. most of them arent even 18.

Obama's Friends:
Cornel West Says 9-11 shows whites what its like to be black. Calls Obama his brother and comrade. Obama called him an, "oracle and genius."
William Ayers I'm sure you've heard of him. Here is a picture of him standing on the US Flag. Ayers and Obama are known to be great friends and Obama even says he doesnt get what the big deal is why people dont like him. Ignorance at its best.
Obama's Preacher Dont say they dont have a relation. He baptized Obama at birth and obama continued to go there up until news got out about what he preached.

Want anymore evidence. I find it funny you dont want me to go to any non-right wing websites when they have DIRECT QUOTES from people. you cant lie about that. its funny. so when you counter here with nothing, dont use CNN, NBC or any other lefties.
 
Like I said in your other topic every politician has skeletons in their closet, including Obama. No one is perfect. Bush had skeletons 10x worse than Obama did, and William Ayers is not even remotely close to Obama ( http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/po ... ayers.html ) and other articles, besides that one.

I don't care about Obama's preacher. It doesn't matter at all. You will have skeletons in your closet when you grow up, as will everyone.

Obama is not a socialist, with that said. I have family in sweden and used to visit there all the time, that's a socialist country ( might I add it runs great, perfect economy ) and Obama is nothing close to a socialist.
 
MisterPeaBody said:
Like I said in your other topic every politician has skeletons in their closet, including Obama. No one is perfect. Bush had skeletons 10x worse than Obama did, and William Ayers is not even remotely close to Obama ( http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/po ... ayers.html ) and other articles, besides that one.

I don't care about Obama's preacher. It doesn't matter at all. You will have skeletons in your closet when you grow up, as will everyone.

Obama is not a socialist, with that said. I have family in sweden and used to visit there all the time, that's a socialist country ( might I add it runs great, perfect economy ) and Obama is nothing close to a socialist.
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haha that article basically proves he was close to him. and did you read my article. doubt it. plus your basically throwing evidence off. he is very close with his preacher so your passing off another close friend. on top of that you gave no evidence for bush's. and you obviously dont know the definition of socialism then
 
"God damn America!"

~Jeremiah Right, former priest of Obama's church.

"He's inspirational, his glorious truth brings tears to my eyes," or something else that makes me vomit, said about the priest.

~Barack Hussein Osama (aka Obama)
 
Nuke said:
"God damn America!"

~Jeremiah Right, former priest of Obama's church.

"He's inspirational, his glorious truth brings tears to my eyes," or something else that makes me vomit, said about the priest.

~Barack Hussein Osama (aka Obama)
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thanks. if you want the quotes and his true relation to all of his buddies just look at the links i put in. direct quotes out of all of their mouths. unfortunately i didnt put the links to the chicago mafia and michele's things in their either. i'll save that for another post
 
Like I said Obama has skeletons in his closet, but I doubt he's going to appoint this guy to any office, and do you really think that because this black minister man said that he hates America that Obama does to?

Or do you just think he's trying to sacrifice us to his Islamic overlord or something?
 
ever read obama's quotes on the guy? and second they have been close friends for a long time. maybe if you know how heavily obama supported him and werent trying to ignore the things he says, you'd be able to see what obama supports in life, not by words
 
I'll add in that Gitmo is closed with newly citizenized terrorists from different countries, each with new constitutional rights, courtesy of the AMERICANS who had to sacrifice their first amendment for them because of Obama, are in a low security prison.
 
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