cityStatic
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I am creating a new anime forum. It will be called "Otaku Bulletin Board." It will have a TLD domain. It will have streaming anime and manga scans. Any questions?
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Nope.
http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-act ... es-090301/Gimgak said:
Doesn't matter if it's done by "fans", they'll still sue you into next week. No matter how you slice it, the site will be classified as illegal and will face the usual, like not being allowed to be advertised here.
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😱 You linked to a torrent site 😱
cityStatic
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What makes you sure I'll even have the files on my website?Leo Ghost said:
@Kirisute Gomen
I linked to a news blog, if Digg can link to it then so can FP.
@Hakuto_washi
Haven't said you would host them, and it doesn't matter. There's been a major crack down of sub sites of all kinds recently, even in the NL where warez "linking" is considered legal. I'm just wondering if you had taken it into thought is all.
I linked to a news blog, if Digg can link to it then so can FP.
@Hakuto_washi
Haven't said you would host them, and it doesn't matter. There's been a major crack down of sub sites of all kinds recently, even in the NL where warez "linking" is considered legal. I'm just wondering if you had taken it into thought is all.
cityStatic
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Do you consider Youtube/MegaVideo warez?
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Some of the things on there could be considered warez. If somebody uploads music without permission, it is technically illegal.Hakuto_washi said:
I should probably make note that i'm an avid file sharer myself, and actually own a toplist dedicated to warez sites. I have a lot of time and resources personally invested in the "scene" as well, so i'm not against you starting a site like this, I just want you to know what you're up against 😛Hakuto_washi said:
Do I consider Youtube to be illegal? Nope, however some of the content *is* illegal, and they filter it constantly due to DMCA notices. If you knew how many music videos they remove daily, it would blow your mind. They're trying to fix this of course, by teaming up with that VODO (or something like that) site that allows legal music videos. However for the most part, uploading of *any* content that you do not have permission to classifies it as "warez" material and you can face huge fines for it. I may completely disagree with the law, but law is law.
NBK*Twitch
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I disagree Leo. There are so many "illegal" videos on youtube they can't do jack.
Also if you look at some cases where they only link to illegal stuff,but not host they can't be sued for it. They can however be given a fine I think..
Also if you look at some cases where they only link to illegal stuff,but not host they can't be sued for it. They can however be given a fine I think..
Fair enough. still it seems manga/anime subs are tolerated, they'd probably target the big sites first, some of which aren't even located "offshore" (by that I mean in a warez friendly(ier) location than the states).Leo Ghost said:
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Wrong.NBK*Twitch said:
When WMG decided to be idiots and demand more money for YouTube to show the videos, they cried to mommy and got tens of thousands of videos deleted. YouTube also has a great acoustic fingerprint system that can identify songs used in videos, even in poor quality.
Just stop please, it's clear you don't have any idea of the law, and it's best not to embarrass yourself. I make no clainm that I know it word for word, but i've worked along side it long enough to know what the risks are. You are correct, Youtube is so massively full of copyrighted material they never make a dent when deleting it, but that doesn't mean that they don't. Do you really think that if they didn't legally have to delete it, they would still pay a full staff team to do so? Of course not.NBK*Twitch said:
The laws for hosting and linking are different in every country, therefore you can't generalize a statement such as you did above (underlined). Linking directly to a "warez" file is illegal in the USA and you can be sued for it. Warez linking used to be regarded as legal in the Netherlands, however recent attacks on sites that only link are causing the laws to be tested. Currently there are still many countries that allow linking, but that doesn't mean that they won't take down your site if under enough pressure. The only "bullet proof" hosting locations appear to be Hong Kong and Panama :shrug:
Let's also keep in mind that there's no "fine" like you said. Copyright infringement on a non-commercial bases is a civil suit in the USA, which means that there is no fear of jail time or the sort, and no set "fine". The rights owner must sue you, which means a full court case, par the jury as this is CIVIL, not CRIMINAL. Both sides make their arguments and a verdict is reached by the judge. Simple, but can carry MILLIONS of dollars in losses.
What i'm getting at is simple, no matter how "legal" you make it by hosting in certain countries, it's still illegal as of now in the countries that contain the larger media groups. The USA put political pressure on Sweden to raid The Pirate Bay, and the same has happened to many other sites, just not as well known. Bottom line is, you won't be safe no matter how small your site is, not matter where you host, no matter how many VPN's you connect through to change your IP, no matter where your offshore bank accounts are located to pay for hosting, ect. The only way to change this is to change the laws, join your local Pirate Party.
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However redistribution of copyrighted content is criminal.Leo Ghost said:
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