Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social Security

[Joshua Farrell]

Seeking tighter controls over firearm purchases, the Obama administration is pushing to ban Social Security beneficiaries from owning guns if they lack the mental capacity to manage their own affairs, a move that could affect millions whose monthly disability payments are handled by others.

The push is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws regulating who gets reported to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, which is used to prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the country illegally and others.

A potentially large group within Social Security are people who, in the language of federal gun laws, are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease."

There is no simple way to identify that group, but a strategy used by the Department of Veterans Affairs since the creation of the background check system is reporting anyone who has been declared incompetent to manage pension or disability payments and assigned a fiduciary.

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This whole thing reeks of desperation to remove the ability for people to own guns, and from being able to practice a right people have here in the U.S.A.. Though I do understand that there are some people that can't make a good decision, even if they can't manage their own finances, it just seems like they want to try to prevent anyone that doesn't have the ability to do math like regular people, from being able to even do something that they might be able to do themselves.

 

[Thomasss]

Criminals are going to get guns either way, I really don't see why we are pushing for gun background checks when we can be spending all the time and effort on raising awareness and training communities and people the proper way to handle and shoot guns. Whether you ban guns or not, people will have them. It's just like drugs, we have all these regulations and laws about them and yet, well, they are pretty much everywhere still. 😛

 

[mistm_0]

Maybe if people didn't make guns in the first place, we wouldn't have war, or the need to ban them in the first place. Whoever made the very first gun is mean in my eyes.

 

[John]

Maybe if people didn't make guns in the first place, we wouldn't have war, or the need to ban them in the first place. Whoever made the very first gun is mean in my eyes.

What exactly are you trying to say with that statement? People fought with swords and bows for thousands of years without guns.

My opinion on this is exactly what Joshua and Thomas have already said. Guns, right now are tools regardless of how you look at them. Guns can't kill people; people can kill people. It takes a sick individual to commit a mass murder with a tool like a gun, it's by no means the gun's fault. In America, we need work on the people behind the trigger, not the trigger itself.

 

[mistm_0]

Maybe if people didn't make guns in the first place, we wouldn't have war, or the need to ban them in the first place. Whoever made the very first gun is mean in my eyes.

What exactly are you trying to say with that statement? People fought with swords and bows for thousands of years without guns.

My opinion on this is exactly what Joshua and Thomas have already said. Guns, right now are tools regardless of how you look at them. Guns can't kill people; people can kill people. It takes a sick individual to commit a mass murder with a tool like a gun, it's by no means the gun's fault. In America, we need work on the people behind the trigger, not the trigger itself.

People who invented swords are mean in my eyes too. There's nothing wrong with tools. But when they are purposely made to kill, its just so scary. I want to walk out of my home cheerfully, and not worried if I'll get attacked by a weapon. :sad:

 

[mistm_0]

I just don't want our children to worry about weapons. It can really be frightening.

 

[John]

Maybe if people didn't make guns in the first place, we wouldn't have war, or the need to ban them in the first place. Whoever made the very first gun is mean in my eyes.

What exactly are you trying to say with that statement? People fought with swords and bows for thousands of years without guns.

My opinion on this is exactly what Joshua and Thomas have already said. Guns, right now are tools regardless of how you look at them. Guns can't kill people; people can kill people. It takes a sick individual to commit a mass murder with a tool like a gun, it's by no means the gun's fault. In America, we need work on the people behind the trigger, not the trigger itself.

People who invented swords are mean in my eyes too. There's nothing wrong with tools. But when they are purposely made to kill, its just so scary. I want to walk out of my home cheerfully, and not worried if I'll get attacked by a weapon. :sad:

How are guns made purposely made to kill? Shooting guns on the range is fun, and it's something that isn't using a gun to kill, or injure a person. There are very few things on this Earth that are made just to kill, and guns are not made solely to kill.

 

[John]

I just don't want our children to worry about weapons. It can really be frightening.

Our children have way worse things to worry about instead of guns. Drugs, sex, and alcohol at young ages are things that mentally kill children into horrible lives.

In addition, schools (including Sandy Hook), are gun free zones. It's illegal to take guns onto their campus, but people do it anyway. Do you know why? Some people are sick, and there's no other way to put it. If you spend your life paranoided about the insane people who make up a small portion of the population, you'll never be able to enjoy yourself how most people will, because you'll be consistently worrying about stuff that is highly unlikely to happen. In present America, the only way to protect yourself from the horrible people is to have a gun, and know how to use it.

 

[Thomasss]

I just don't want our children to worry about weapons. It can really be frightening.

Anything can be made a weapon, it's just that guns happen to be a better weapon. 😛

I can grab a pencil and start stabbing people, you'd be amazed at how many students in school joke about it, and actually try it. I could even throw a chair at someone's head and kill them, so gun's aren't the only weapon, everything is a weapon if you're crazy enough to use it.

And there's so much for children to worry about, teaching children how to handle guns won't make them worry, it will make them prepared for the times that their worries come true. Peer pressure is what children should be worrying about, peer pressure is a bigger weapon than guns are, and it hurts more people than guns do.

The best weapon against guns is education and training; if you know how to use one, you will know how to defend yourself and others, it's just that simple.

 

[mistm_0]

I just don't want our children to worry about weapons. It can really be frightening.

Anything can be made a weapon, it's just that guns happen to be a better weapon. 😛

I can grab a pencil and start stabbing people, you'd be amazed at how many students in school joke about it, and actually try it. I could even throw a chair at someone's head and kill them, so gun's aren't the only weapon, everything is a weapon if you're crazy enough to use it.

And there's so much for children to worry about, teaching children how to handle guns won't make them worry, it will make them prepared for the times that their worries come true. Peer pressure is what children should be worrying about, peer pressure is a bigger weapon than guns are, and it hurts more people than guns do.

The best weapon against guns is education and training; if you know how to use one, you will know how to defend yourself and others, it's just that simple.

You also need to make sure if the gun carrier is mentally stable enough to have a gun.

 

[Thomasss]

I just don't want our children to worry about weapons. It can really be frightening.

Anything can be made a weapon, it's just that guns happen to be a better weapon. 😛

I can grab a pencil and start stabbing people, you'd be amazed at how many students in school joke about it, and actually try it. I could even throw a chair at someone's head and kill them, so gun's aren't the only weapon, everything is a weapon if you're crazy enough to use it.

And there's so much for children to worry about, teaching children how to handle guns won't make them worry, it will make them prepared for the times that their worries come true. Peer pressure is what children should be worrying about, peer pressure is a bigger weapon than guns are, and it hurts more people than guns do.

The best weapon against guns is education and training; if you know how to use one, you will know how to defend yourself and others, it's just that simple.

You also need to make sure if the gun carrier is mentally stable enough to have a gun.

It's the same thing for criminals, they will get the guns if they want them, and there's nothing you can really do to stop them. If someone without a stable mental state buys a gun on the black market, the government won't know about it, and all the money they used to prevent that from happening will go down the drain, because the black market (where most criminals buy their weapons) skips over government validation.

They will get them if they want them, mentally crazy or not.